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[Locus Map Free]

The final phase in creating Locus Map, version 4.

Today/tomorrow will be published a final version of LM4 into the public Beta channel on Google Play of Locus Map (Free) app. All systems are now up and ready.

Because I've not yet decided how Beta versions will be published, for now, this will be a regular public version that requires an active subscription. So no features will be unlocked like it was till now.

Final status
Locus Map Free > will be renamed to Locus Map (version 4+)
Locus Map Pro > name remains for now as is (for a month or two) till we will be 100% sure, LM4 is stable and perfectly working. Then it will be rename to Locus Classic. Version continue in 3.5+ row.

Final prices and comparison of functionality if you are interested: here. Silver tier is close to the current Locus Map Pro, but gives few bonuses, so something like the "Pro+" version.

Pro users
Locus Map 4 = Locus Map Free - so it remains like before, you may have both apps installed at once (Locus Map, Locus Classic). If data are stored in the root of the internal memory, data will be shared without any worry (for now, in September 2021 things starts to be more complicated, thanks to Google)

Pro users anyway receive one year of the Silver for free or Gold with a 50% discount, which both compensate the price of the Pro version.

FAQ

How to use Beta versions
- how to. The text is old but the bottom part with "What to do to become a tester" is perfectly valid.
- latest version wins, so a new regular update will update your Beta version and opposite
- settings, data, subscription, all remain untouched no matter which version you use!

Discount on the purchase as Pro user
- essential is, to use the Pro version logged into Locus Store with the same account you will use in the LM4
- steps: open in Locus Map Pro > menu > Locus Store. Check in the side panel account
- start Locus Map 4 > menu > Locus Store and check, the account is the same
- if you do not see the "Exclusive" offer, immediately send me PM with your email, I'll check it

Hello Diddi,
Who can read is clearly in the advantage. A contribution before is everything. Should go again soon.

Thanks guys, appreciate your feedback. As I wrote, we decided to keep heads down, and very simply free/silver/gold names will be used. Not a rocket science, but at least clear without any worries.

And Andrew, marketing people? Eh, well, I do not like marketing. You can't even imagine how I curse my work when doing some subscription/promo screens last days/weeks  .

Anyway, names of subs tiers finished ... let's rather do some useful tasks ..

I spent (wasted?) quite a while trying to reply to your topic https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7255.msg62366#msg62366. It appears it is locked, although as a general comment I can't see any visual indication of "locked" status.

While I'm more an engineer than a marketing guy, my 1st impression was "weird" names, and as I read each post I tend to agree with the various comments. "plain" does sound well... plain/ boring. And Hill/ Mountain as John says are too activity specific. I agree with lor74cas that free/ base/ advanced are boring names, but they better describe the version of locus.

You need to ask marketing people.

Maybe it's too late to affect the names of the LM4 tiers (that thread's entire lifetime seems to have been while I was asleep here in North America), but...

"Plain" suggests "ordinary"; that's the first thing I think when I see that word.  Plain as flat land is a very weak meaning over here.  May I suggest "Flatlands" instead?

Plain/Hill/Mountain makes sense as a triad, and has no rude obscene connotations that I am aware of (an important consideration when using a foreign language).
However, my first thought was actually that the proposed naming appears to tie the Locus tiers rather strongly to the intended usage. If I walk or ride mainly in the plain, do I want the Plain version? Maybe it has no contour lines? Maybe the Hill version stops working above 1000m and the maps disappear in mist?


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I totally agree.

I know that free, base, advanced are less fun names, but they better describe the version of locus.
sleeping bag, camping tent, resort, just kidding. 

Plain/Hill/Mountain makes sense as a triad, and has no rude obscene connotations that I am aware of (an important consideration when using a foreign language).
However, my first thought was actually that the proposed naming appears to tie the Locus tiers rather strongly to the intended usage. If I walk or ride mainly in the plain, do I want the Plain version? Maybe it has no contour lines? Maybe the Hill version stops working above 1000m and the maps disappear in mist?


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[@balloni55]

@balloni55
This is really really weird. I spend on ti maybe two hours playing with various options, found minor issues but nothing like you and Diddi describe. How to simulate it, hmm? May you please try a short video with this issue?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/im62thrjgvt3t1m/update_cache.mp4?dl=0

in the first example where the behavior is normal it is noticeable that first 3 blue and one yellow smiley and after the update only two blue are displayed

Same for me with newest beta

confirm
with PRO it work as expected, so i don´t think its on GC4L

EDIT:
its different, on some it work like
https://coord.info/GC3K4TB
on others it didnt work like
https://coord.info/GC7DG3M

PQ crash > still can't simulate. Crash log needed.

same problem for me
log send just now

With Android 11 this popup occurs almost every time after closing LM4 (with a delay of about 20 sec.,)

These graphical problems may appear due to the complexity of the whole main screen layout. Fortunately, they are not serious problems.

I've added one more refresh of the "track rec button", so it should help here.

[MapGooglePlay_4.0.0 - Beta 3_985_beta]

The new version MapGooglePlay_4.0.0 - Beta 3_985_beta,  as usually at the last moment on Friday, ready to play with.

@baegas
I do not have experience with the "Dex" system, but the whole "full-screen" system needs a bigger update. I'm sure, once done, it will help on Dex as well.

@balloni55
understand your point with the "guide on" button. But it leads more to a robust setup of the bottom panel for all buttons, not just few special geocaching. And this is not planned for now.

@freischneider
the button is moved a little bit up, to be aligned with the centering button. There is nothing that may convince me that it does not look nice .

@tapio
well, a good old Map manager has many problems, not just this one. That's why I almost two years ago started work on the new Map Manager V2. It is in Beta under the "beta" category ... but it is not yet finished. Anyway thanks for reports, mainly about deleting of the map. I'll try to look at it.

I never considered the position of the zoom buttons as a problem. Buttons are connected to the big centering button, not directly to the center of the screen. So it depends on the screen resolution. But yes, usually they are close to the middle.

The color of the buttons is an interesting topic. A single color probably can't be always "perfect". I'll maybe try to play a little bit with shadows > thanks for the tip.

Controlling is a problem with gloves ... always. Hmm, what you need is close to the existing "Screen lock" function, except this completely disable all taps. Hmm ...

Doesn't everyone use the volume buttons with gloves?
That said, I also sometimes thought it would be great to have a "limited screen lock", where zooming and panning is possible, but no other interaction (except disabling the screen lock, obviously). During a tour, I often take out the phone to look at the map, and then I want to see what's ahead, but can't pan in Screen lock mode.
Dreaming on about this, why not hide all buttons and stuff in screen lock? They are useless and give the wrong impression they are active. Then screen lock would be just the map over the full display, allowing zooming and panning, and of course the slide from the left to deactivate it. Whatcha think?

[MapGooglePlay_4.0.0 - Beta 2_984_beta]

New version *** MapGooglePlay_4.0.0 - Beta 2_984_beta *** ready-to-play!

Enjoy weekend!

@poutnikl
hmm oki, so what is the suggestion? I still use the Pixel 2 device (5''! screen) and never had a problem with this and I currently have no idea, how to make it better.