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If I explicitely search for health, then I explicitly search for health. Sure, there might be a pet shop nearby. Honestly I currently have no idea of an usecase of such extended results without any differentiation.

Ah, then it is something else than to what I replied before. You are referring to cumulating child categories under "top level" one like "Health", which are all highlighted in such case, I get it now. Yep, there is some definition of hiearchery of POIs categories, which we might review based on such feedbacks. Thanks

Clicking somewhere else was intuitively to get more map screen space, no bottom point detail, and also by mistake, sometimes i don't hit a POI precisely.

I understand what you mean now I think. Yep, when you are in search screen, you will "lost" it when doing long-press only, however when in POI detail from search, short-press cancels everything. This is by design, as when users are in POI details, most likely higher probability is they already found what they wanted and doesn't need to go back. This of course brings mentioned issue for other cases, where they want to go through more POI details listed in search results. We will think about this.

I noticed it zooms to the first result

In case you don't go directly from suggestions to POI/adress detail, you will always have even your previous map position on screen when opening search results exactly for reasons you mentioned: To not loose idea where nearest results are related to your previous map area. So the map area is calculated to show your your previous position and nerest one now with same safe margins as most general behavior rule to any search case. Before we will as planned split it to more distinct behaviours based on spread of search results.

POI on the map do not open.

That is not correct behaviour - can you please record screen video of this? I can't simulate it.

Also with search: Fountain I would like C. Drinking water and C. Source. At the moment there is no category at all.

As Radim wrote, that thesaurus file is something else than defined hirearchy of POIs.
1) If "fountain" word is used in the german, you should get related fountain category under this search. That is to be added to thesaurus file.   
2) What other categories are related with category fountain are based on defined (somewhere else) category hirearchy. We  welcome  all specific suggestions here, but please keep in mind that they might be highly subjective. I definitely don't think that "drinking water" category should appear under "fountain", as this is not case in real world in many places of earth. 

In other words, we suggest to all German speaking testers to test again as search results may or may not behave quite a lot of differently for you now. Thanks for pointing us to the problem and we hope you will get better results now.

Thanks for the feedbacks guys. Some comments:

@Radim & Jan: did I miss a statement re. my proposal to include Google API search again?

Well there are lot of reasons to not have our default online search based on Google Search API. Not only because this API is not that great as the search available in actual Google Maps. One of the other reason is also that we need better integrations to data what we work with even outside of search functions (for now and even more for our future plans). Can you send some specific examples of results which you are not happy with?

They plan to highlight certain ones more. I think that's great, because some are quite important. Best something like that should also be in preset. But if one has the selection already I would offer there the possibility: 1. do not show at all 2.normal show 3. highlight show.

I didn't understand that part well I guess. Who you mean by They? What do you mean by difference between "normal show" and "highlight show" for POI categories?

- cursor in search input: I have the keyboard, but the 3 basic android control-buttons are missing

Can you please post image of your problem?

- if I search by category, eg. health, also results of other categories are additionally shown on map

That is by design, but we are considering further steps here. POIs are already to some extend content not separable from the background map. The map is designed in mind with POIs presented on top of them. So the question is, do you have issue to distinguish between highligted POIs and normal ones on the map when searching for some particular of selected category?

- if I input letters the shown results are located somewhere else, not nearby current map cursor, and also no distance is shown in the list.  As I don't see the results in context of a map (location) it is of limited value

It's because you don't always search only in the area shown on the screen and app can't know your use-case on the start. Even if there are some results on the visible map, they might be subordinate compared the one 2km away. If you want to filter results only for visible area, there is immediately available button on the map for this purpose. Distance marker from gps position will be later added to the list. To get some context of text results with the map, slide with the list up/down.

if the results are shown around the map as icons and I click the map for 1-2 seconds the results are gone. Might be by design, don't know. If I reenter search there is a bin icon next to category though nothing is actively shown

What is the reason to hold-click on the map during search for you? That bin is for deleting such search from your personal history.

the result list seems to be a mixture (as noted in #1) with missing visible structure. So I am first busy to get the clou, structure or filter the results, then I can profit of them..this should already be given by a proper design & layout

What do you suggest, please? It is expected, that 80% of search will be covered by suggestion module which by design search differently (tries to predict what you really want to search, and so tries to get to desired content with as little efford as possible) than when you fire up search of some particular text string (when you didn't get what you want in suggestions or want to find something with the name you remember but not sure what exactly and want to look it up on the map with others).

thanks, but I'm confused between LoPoints(offline) & new search Offline places - a better example maybe - LoPoints search for cafe & 1st two are within 1km of me (both have "cafe" in the name by the way), whereas from Offline places the 1st is 8km away?

This is really about new online search. With its launch the offline POI search become evem more obsolete and we have already plans to work on this.   

And as @freischneider has written, sometimes a "category" is in the list of search results, but sometimes not, and not in the"cafe" example.

Hmm, would be useful to at least know translated category of some actual POI to be able to know what to input in case you want to highlight similar. Will discuss it.

 

Map is on Dortmund, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany. GPS off, device located in the area.

Hmmm, Radim will look into this. New search is language dependant (which is also one of its known weakness), and I got good results around Dormund for "halde" when searching in czech. Something suspicius there!

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Seems like some performance issue because of number of content you have enabled on map. Marek will look into this, thanks. 

Hi, in the initial view of search suggestion, there are some most common POI categories which users might want to look for, but they are indeed not all. You can get others by taping their name.

How important is for you to have ability to go through whole list (tree) of them like it is possible for offline POIs now? Do you just need to know how many of them are supported or want to use such list during some real search? Thanks

It's important to note, that this new online search is primarily build for, you guess it, search things. That being said, we have plans to review ability to highlight POI categories on the map more permanently in different manner - including highlighting more than one category on the same time, so it allow you to use it for planning more effectively in case you want to use it this way. But that is little bit different story for us.

Hi!

Garmin addon for Locus Map is meant to be used with connected phone with the app, so it can't help you with this scenario. If you want to be on your adventures only with your Garmin, you have to rely on its own capabilities, which of course include track recording.

However I doubt you can easily get compass data from it without some processing of directions from track data, but I might be wrong in this. You can export tracks in GPX from their Garmin Connect service once you synchronize your watch with it and import it to your Library in Locus Map.

As for the last question:  in some future we may implement sync of Locus Map Library with Garmin Connect to automatically retrieve tracks from it once they are recorded, but this is not yet confirmed yet, so any promises there.

Well, there are lots of Garmin watch models nowadays. It all depend on your need for advanced fitness metrics, type of the screen, ruggedness, and budget. Basically any will do the job in some form.

Hi, we hope to release first public test versions in the first half of this year. But as Menion mentioned, please don't expect full-blown Locus Map yet. It will be much simpler version for the start. Of course, it will be just the beginning for us though.   

Hi! Well, I fully understand the request, but honestly it is quite low on our priority list for now as it would bring various challenges in the UI which would need to be solved differently and for now we rather spend the time on what we believe even more useful updates. But once the time will be right, we will consider it again!

Hi, this is often requested, but not supported unfortunately. I also can't promise it someday will be as it is really challenging to implementing without too much compromises.

Hi, the purpose of the app was never to utilize Garmin GPS for Locus Map on the phone, although several times requested. This is not supported and can't promise I will be able to implement it in the future.

Also, recommendation to downgrade to version 4.19 is no longer valid as it is quite old version (not supporting new devices). If it is still working for you, feel free to use it, but I would not recommend it anymore. That unfortunately means loss of map streaming feature, which is shame but can't do anything about it.

Hi guys, thanks for this discussion, all noted.  We are for sure aware of benefits of making all changes in the POIs easier.  We are planning to analyse our further steps related to this topic in upcoming months as there are several possible paths for the future.

For now and in this thread, we are focusing to properly beta-test "LoMedia" attachments to LoPoints. Now mainly technical side and "intuitiveness" of the process as other updates related to user's motivation to upload their photo are on the way.  Feel free to use last beta of Locus Map to upload photos which will already be shown to others in public version. They already goes to final DB, so you can be one of the first to provide such media content on our platform.

Hi Dirk,
most likely you logged in on the web this time via Google or Facebook not having these login methods paired with any of account yet. Registration process is not yet finalized on our web, thus this message.

Hi, you probably missed, that shorter period of one-time payment is for 3 months vs 1 month for subscription plan.

Hi sbouju, completely missed your post, sorry. Not sure what is the problem in your case honestly!  Does it happening even if you leave Locus Map for Garmin app open on your smartphone?

@mfink Yep, we have draft of changes which enables you to better pair icons on Locus with the new Fenix devices showing. But it is not that easy as various Garmin models have different icon sets.

Hi, map streaming feature is discontinued in Locus Map for Garmin for now, because of limitation on Garmin side. It is usable only in case your phone doesn't have access to the internet. Also it is quite slow on Venu, because of the size of transferred images, so I would definitely do not recommend to buy new device only because of that, as you would be disappointed.

In case you would want to use it anyway, zoom can be done by holding MENU button to access zoom mode and then changing zoom by swiping up or down on the map screen.

Hi, support for Instinct 2 coming soon. But it will not contain support for map streaming from the phone, it has too low memory fot that.