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@tapio
Could you please send me a more detailed description how I could replicate the crash in LT password setting or send me an android error log via PM, help desk or milan.cejnar@asamm.com?

Password should only be needed to actively join and track into the group. Following the group using web interface is still possible without the password if you know the group's code (i.e. access key).

Hi,

@tapio
Yes, agreed. Regarding the mobile web interface the decision to show download button in this way was probably not exactly the best decision by our web designer.

@Andrew Heard
- mobile web AND PC web page?
Just the mobile version of the web I think. PC version seems fine, there is a lot of space at the top and we do want to have a download button in the menu because we want people to use the Locus Map client primarily and to obtain it easily, even though there is not any "spectator" mode in the LM at the moment, so technically the web page has a little different use case from the mobile client for now. But in the future the web will probably offer simply just a subset of Live Tracking features offered by the Locus Map itself.

- public group timeout
Maybe I could increase it to 15 minutes, but why more? There might be quite a lot of people in public
group and with relatively high fluctuation, so we prefer not to keep the positions in the public group that long which also helps to save the data traffic of other people following the public group.
As said, timeout in private groups can then be set to some predefined amounts of time or make it indefinite and people can share their position to both public and private group at the same time so I think that leaving the session timeout time shorter in public group is preferable.

- date format
Point taken, thank you. We will propose to the designer that we could use "DD MON YYYY hh:mm:ss" with moth name abbreviation.

Hello guys,
I would like to address most of the issues or suggestions you have mentioned here.

A common thing mentioned by all of you has been a wasted space on the top of mobile web page. This is a valid suggestion and we will talk with the web page designer about this and about improving the mobile UI experience generally.

As for mentioned control of the time the user is visible on the map - we have just added this functionality. It can be set by the owner of the group in the group settings globally for the whole group. Public group session time remained to be set to 10 minutes. Also some indication of how fresh the position is mentioned by lor74cas is also something we think would be useful, but is not implemented yet.


@lor74cas
Thank you for noticing that user data do not seem to be update at all in the recent version, that is definitely a bug.
Adding some other user data including battery is a good idea, we would probably also need some sensible way of showing the data values if their number increases, definitely something to think about.

@tapio
Live chat is currently not available through web interface, it is something we would like to implement some time later.
GPX is currently not generated by the live tracking server but we would like to have some kind of online track recording feature or maybe integrate track recording and live tracking together somehow to be able to share live tracking track.
For POIs, hints, comments etc. the Live chat should be used, but this option is currently missing from the web interface as stated previously.
Automatic zooming to the user after they are selected is really weird at the moment, you have described it quite precisely as fighting against the web interface. We will talk with the web designer to disable this zooming function completely and leave only centering to the user's position enabled.
Also regarding your problems of users not showing on the map, there were actually two possible causes of this. First there was a bug, which led to the positions not showing when the group user (session) timeout was set to indefinite, but that should be fixed since yesterday. Secondly there is a problem if the user icon's URL is invalid and then it does not show on the map. This still needs to be fixed. In the meantime try refreshing your avatar in Live Tracking profile or selecting one of the Locus Icons instead, which should work correctly.

@Andrew Heard
Thank you for the suggestions, most of the are good tips but we will focus on more pressing UX issues, as the web page obviously needs an update after the first release.
As for the user counts in the group/cluster not adding up; I think that the number was actually correct but some of the people had incorectly set icon URL (we had some issues with Google changing avatar URLs recently) and so one of the people was invisible when zoomed in to show the icon. We will try to fix the issue.
As for supported date/time format - the web should be using default for your device's locale. There should be no need to set it anywhere. Is format MM/DD/YYYY unusual for your locale? Other units are displayed using metric system only at the moment, which might also be confusing for some people unfortunately.


Anyway thank all of you for all the suggestions and feedback, it really helps us to pinpoint potential problems of lacking features of the new interface.

@Peter Jurík
Hello, at the moment we are not planning on adding stand-alone functionality for Wear OS platfrom.

Hello,
currently the Locus Map Watch add-on for Wear OS requires connection to the phone running Locus Map (all the data are evaluated and recorded there).

Supported values and statistics that can be shown by the add-on are:
- Track time & distance
- Speed - current, average, max
- Elevation uphill/downhill
- Distance uphill/downhill
- Altitude current, min, max
- Heart rate current, average, max
- Energy
- Cadence average, max
- Pace
- Watch battery & current time

Slope is currently not implemented, but could be added in the future. Heart rate has been reported as a bit buggy for some users if captured directly by the watch itself. External HR sensors like chest-strap should be fine.

Also as an another suggestion, you could possibly consider getting another second-hand or cheap Android phone just to use as a Bike Computer? We are currently working on ways to synchronize two or more instances of Locus Map running on multiple devices (will require Internet connection though), so that could make using LM on two phones more usable in the future.

Dobrý den,
Vaše verze už je opravdu poměrně zastaralá. Od té doby došlo k nějakým změnám v oblasti přihlašování a průběžně se také vyvíjí i naše webové služby. Snažíme se samozřejmě neustále o zpětnou kompatibilitu, ale možná se tam postupně, obzvlášť v kombinace s přihlášením přes FB mohla vloudit nějaká chybička.
Testoval jsem to teď radši pro jistotu s nejnovější verzí a přihlášení přes FB by mělo normálně fungovat, i když vyžaduje ještě potvrzení registrace přes odkaz, který byste měl obdržet na email.
Bohužel Vám tedy nemohu poradit, kde přesně by mohla být chyba, ale obávám se, že takto zpětně se starší verzí Locus Map by se nám problém stejně nepodařilo vyřešit.
Za problémy se omlouvám a ještě jednou prosím o vyzkoušení novější verze Locus Map, problém to pravděpodobně vyřeší. Můžete to také zkusit obejít přihlášením přes email místo FB, pokud jste tuto možnost ještě nezkoušel.

@Bobo Lobo
Dobrý den,
můžete prosím aktualizovat Locus Map na poslední verzi 3.36.2 a ještě jednou vyzkoušet, jestli problém přetrvává?

Děkuji, s pozdravem
Milan Cejnar

@slarti76
hello,
GPS data are currently taken solely from the phone since the app cannot work in stand-alone mode anyway.
You are right that the same zoom factor might be unsuitable for both the watch and the phone depending on your preset/usage. To be honest we still have to debug some issue in map rendering core because some overlay icons and symbols are a bit off by a various factor depending on DPI screen ratio of the watch versus the phone. So maybe the zoom factor will not be such an issue once we fix these little problems. But even so, it is a valid point and could be useful, thank you for noticing this

@joart @slarti76
thank you for the information and the feedback about how you are using or would like to use your watch and the app. I will keep these improvement tips in mind.

@slarti76 Hello,
thank you for your interest in the Locus Map Watch add-on for Samsung and interesting questions.

- The Wear OS and Tizen add-ons are very similar, almost identical in fact. There are some changes to the UI layout and in the Tizen add-on it is not currently possible to name custom waypoint during track recording (default naming is used). The main difference now is probably a missing HR sensor support, which should basically work in Wear OS, but at the moment there is no support to synchronize HR data from Samsung watch to Locus Map during track recording. This is something we would like to add rather sooner than later but we haven't really explored this function yet.

- You should see roughly the same rendered map as on the phone, but as you say, the image is pretty much static, there is currently no way to interact with any map items.

- Pairing your watch with different phone pretty much equals factory reset so it is not something you would probably normally do everyday. But otherwise it is perfectly possible and there should be no problem.

Best regards
Milan

@sbouju Hello,
we have had already some users with Android OS on their watch trying out the standard Locus Map and from what I could gather, the usability and user experience on the round display was pretty poor, even though the resolution was probably lower.
Improved usability on the Android OS devices with round displays would probably require not exactly trivial UI changes and it is not currently planned.

Hello Igor,
at the moment the watch sensors (with the exception of HR sensor synchronization support in Wear OS) are not used in either Wear OS or Samsung Gear/Galaxy Watch. The map autorotation is always computed strictly using phone's change in GPS location (or this is at least the intended behaviour, there has been actually a bug in this behaviour and the fix is waiting to be released in the next Locus Map).
I might try to experiment with map auto-rotation directly on the Wear OS watch using the watch sensors but I cannot yet confirm if this is something that will be usable and thus something we would want to add to the add-on.

@JoinMA
Hi,
the original beta is indeed closed, please install Locus Map Pro Watch add-on normally through Galaxy Apps on your watch.
I also recommend clearing cache of Samsung Accessory Service on your phone with LM Pro add-on.

@big Hi,
yes there is actually. If you see any communication warning right from the start and the watch seems to be connected properly otherwise, then you can try to either

1) Reinstall Locus Map on your phone or
2) On your phone go to system Settings > Applications > Samsung Accessory Service and clear the data&cache for this Samsung application.

I recommend to run Galaxy Wearable application after attempting the second method to make sure the watch got reconnected properly after clearing the data of Samsung Accessory Service app.


Regarding the map in the track recording dashboard, the map has actually already been a part of the track recording dashboard in the very first prototype. But we made the screen separate so that the swipe/rotate input could be used to zoom and pan. I could add the map to the dashboard with software zoom buttons and disabled panning and would not distrupt the dashboard control but I fear it might be confusing to have two map displays with a different behaviour.

Hello guys,
thank you for all your feedback.
The issue with the connection is weird, but I am glad that reinstalling Locus Map has helped, even though I see how this can be very incovenient.
After that I am glad to hear that the connection is pretty stable. The next thing I will focus on is probably the map not updating fast enough after the display is shown, as I have also seen this couple of times.