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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #120 on: July 21, 2016, 22:09:45 »
Thank you for comments about names of themes. I'll discuss it with team - "Hike & Bike" / "Ski" could be ideal solution. BUT you gave me another idea - "General" theme. What about to remove City theme and create something between City and Hike & Bike. Menion gonna kill me but I like this idea.

@john_percy - interesting idea. I'll add ice roads into next LoMaps
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #121 on: July 22, 2016, 12:46:12 »
Thank you for comments about names of themes. I'll discuss it with team - "Hike & Bike" / "Ski" could be ideal solution. BUT you gave me another idea - "General" theme. What about to remove City theme and create something between City and Hike & Bike. Menion gonna kill me but I like this idea.

IMHO, I would keep scenario themes as the baseline, with bunch of check-in options to tweak them,
like Elevate theme for OpenAndroMaps ( Hiking / Cycling / City, each with lot of options )
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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2016, 12:52:49 »
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I would keep scenario themes as the baseline, with bunch of check-in options to tweak them,
like Elevate theme for OpenAndroMaps ( Hiking / Cycling / City, each with lot of options )
exactly +1 8)
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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2016, 13:38:38 »
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I would keep scenario themes as the baseline, with bunch of check-in options to tweak them,
like Elevate theme for OpenAndroMaps ( Hiking / Cycling / City, each with lot of options )
exactly +1 8)
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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #124 on: July 22, 2016, 15:29:14 »
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...with bunch of check-in options to tweak them,...each with lot of options
exactly +1 8)
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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #125 on: July 22, 2016, 15:45:13 »
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exactly +1 8)
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I really do not like so many options
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #126 on: July 22, 2016, 15:54:55 »
Well, no need to toggle the checkboxes 10 times a day
...but IF I want - I can do it ;D

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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #127 on: July 22, 2016, 17:12:58 »
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I really do not like so many options

OTOH, 1 option "food and drinks" in the current winter theme is the opposite extreme.
Perhaps a balanced number of themes and options - neither too many themes with too few options neither vice versa.
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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #128 on: July 22, 2016, 20:57:12 »
Hi guys,
I'm trying to keep this completely on Petr and because he is extreme minimalist, it ended with one checkbox in winter theme etc. (as I remember he did not want even a this one) :).

Anyway enjoy weekend, I've just published new Beta version mainly with some fixes. Because there is again a few more issues that needs fix (import of GPX, GC Offlinizer), I'll release new version at middle of next week, so few days to tune it!
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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #129 on: July 22, 2016, 21:34:51 »
...and because he is extreme minimalist...
damn - that means, "Locus Map" is his worst project ;D ;D

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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #130 on: July 23, 2016, 12:17:46 »
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...with bunch of check-in options to tweak them,...each with lot of options
exactly +1 8)
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I really do not like so many options
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I agree with John.
But everyone should create his own theme and can see how many work it is, to test all these feautures.  ;D
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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #131 on: July 24, 2016, 21:39:54 »
Hi,
well I'm sorry but check-boxes are useless from my point of view and they can cause more harm than good. Current check-boxes exist in internal themes because:
- it's quite complicated to create one Hiking & Cycling theme because of offset of highlighted routes (more routes in one place)
- overcrowded city centre by icons because there wasn't any intelligent logic how to group the map icon

Mentioned Food & Drink check-box in CAR theme exists only because consistency how theme is changed in app. I'm sorry but I add more check-boxes only when I get direct order from menion. I have strong opinion on it.


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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #132 on: July 25, 2016, 07:45:06 »
Hi,
well I'm sorry but check-boxes are useless from my point of view and they can cause more harm than good. Current check-boxes exist in internal themes because:
- it's quite complicated to create one Hiking & Cycling theme because of offset of highlighted routes (more routes in one place)
- overcrowded city centre by icons because there wasn't any intelligent logic how to group the map icon

Mentioned Food & Drink check-box in CAR theme exists only because consistency how theme is changed in app. I'm sorry but I add more check-boxes only when I get direct order from menion. I have strong opinion on it.


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"Thank you for comments about names of themes. I'll discuss it with team - "Hike & Bike" / "Ski" could be ideal solution. BUT you gave me another idea - "General" theme. What about to remove City theme and create something between City and Hike & Bike. Menion gonna kill me but I like this idea. "

Hm, but it may lead to "one size fits all" extreme, if both theme and option numbers are minimized, especially in context of your idea of general theme combining hiking/bik theme and city theme. ( Unless it is meant as an extra theme and not as replacement )

As you have said, cities are icon crowded. It is natural to want a selective POI filtering.

For outdoor themes, such a filtering is less important. But OTOH there is challenging problem to display all OSM way features important to know for challenging routes. Like  track/path class,  track grade, surface, difficulty ( smoothness, MTB scale, SAC scale, ) trail visibility and along/over it also foot and bike routes. It is difficult to display all at the same time, even if OAM theme Elevate/Elements made a very good trial in that. It is hard to see other way but selective feature switching by the theme options.

Fortunately, there is external theme escape path, so there is no need to help Menion killing you.  :D
« Last Edit: July 25, 2016, 09:20:17 by poutnikl »
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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #133 on: July 25, 2016, 13:53:39 »
Hi menion,
since the last 2-3 versions the notify icon for automatic backup disappears after ~5 seconds (free and pro).
Is this intended?
Before this the icon remains visible until I clear it.

This happens on two smartphones (5.1.1 and 4.2).
Sony Xperia Z1c   Android 5.1.1
Sony Xperia Z1c   Android 9.0
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.18.x (27. 6. 2016+)
« Reply #134 on: July 26, 2016, 08:27:17 »
I do not understand why the current internal road theme gave up the colour distinguishing of the road classes ( motorways, trunks, primaries, secondaries, tertiaries ) ?  It is quite an important info and I can see no gain in keeping them all similar.

You can see various OSMAnd themes for illustration, that often follow various road atlas conventions.

BTW, does/can a theme distinguish paid/unpaid sections of motorways ?( MapsForge libraries may not provide that.- OSM data contain paid flag for roads and toll points). Some OSMAnd themes use extra dotted line inside motorway line. It is quite important e.g. in France, where you can take either long way along free motorways ( Beziers to Clermond-Ferrand), or pay big money for it ( Mulhouse - Lyon - Avignon ). The router can distinguish that, but visual check is useful as a double measure..
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