[APP] - version 4.26.+ ( 9/2024 )

[Andrew Heard]

@tapio - it's a ticking timebomb. I had a similar experience with a PC program 10 years ago - tried to migrate to a new PC but the activation was tied to a phone # that no longer existed. Completely destroyed my investment.

[Tapio]

@tapio - it's a ticking timebomb. I had a similar experience with a PC program 10 years ago - tried to migrate to a new PC but the activation was tied to a phone # that no longer existed. Completely destroyed my investment.

Related, in gaming: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/eci

It's just that some devs don't have end of their product support in mind (they're human beings, they can even die, no shit Sherlock), or don't care, or whatever. That's not right.

[Andrew Heard]

@tapio - like in https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=9096.msg76909#msg76909 - "shit happens" - sometimes very suddenly.

[Graf Geo]

Small error in the track statistics panel in the German language setting:

For average speed (in movement) the word "Bewegung" (movement) is displayed twice. See screenshot:

[joeloc]

I know you can set Languages for vector maps. That doesn't help a lot though, since nobody in Greece gives a sh... about adding latin names.

It would be great if Locus had a
"Always force latin letters"
option somewhere. When a name only has greek or cyrillic writing, you would simply render a 1:1 replacement with latin letters instead. That would be a great help in Greece and other funky non-latin countries.

[Menion]

@Tapio
problem with exiting search > not happen to me. Hopefully, it has already been fixed

Is Locus Map working without our servers? Hmm, probably no, sorry. Verification is necessary at least once. Then, years without the internet should not be a problem. Even if app knows that Premium expired, it still keeps premium functionality enabled till internet access will be available again. Anyway, what happens with the app functionality when our team ends completely? Sorry, I have no idea as I still do not expect it happens soon.

@Andrew Heard
1-stop-shop > it is probably not possible for 100%, but we would like to go as close to this goal as possible. The main problem is currently offline address search that uses a completely different system. Anyway, give us a little time and we will come with some solutions 

@joeloc
interesting idea, thanks. Not sure, how technically complex this is. @voldapet ?

[slarti76]

It would be great if Locus had a
"Always force latin letters"
option somewhere. When a name only has greek or cyrillic writing, you would simply render a 1:1 replacement with latin letters instead. That would be a great help in Greece and other funky non-latin countries.

Sorry to say, but there is no such thing as a 1:1 replacement for different scripts. Not even within Latin - did you know that the English "sh" is written in German as "sch", in Polish as "sz", in Hungarian as simple "s" and in some other Slavic languages as "š"? Or that the pronunciation of Oslo would be best approximated in English as "Ooshloo"? Greek may be reasonably doable, as afaik only one major language uses that script. But Cyrillic already has the same problem as Latin scripts: Special variants that have different transliterations depending on the country or even dialect.
This is a topic that linguists spent years on - I don't think it's helpful if Locus on its own implements some simplified (or "half-a**ed") solution...

[slarti76]

Question about the "Pre-load Global Map":
Is it possible to use that only for vector maps?

I'm using the bitmap world map from OpenAndroMaps because we all know that vector maps look sh** in low ZLs. However, Locus also uses it for other bitmap maps, which seems wrong to me: If a bitmap map provides those ZL, why replace them? Would be nice to at least make that optional...

[michaelbechtold]

This already works the way you wish - for ONLINE maps.
Good news: the mechanics already exists.
Bas news: it needs Menion's time - but not too much, I suppse :-)

[slarti76]

This already works the way you wish - for ONLINE maps.
Good news: the mechanics already exists.
Bas news: it needs Menion's time - but not too much, I suppse :-)

Thx, yeah, I should've mentioned that - I know that the pre-load function only affects offline maps anyway.

[joeloc]

It would be great if Locus had a
"Always force latin letters"
option somewhere. When a name only has greek or cyrillic writing, you would simply render a 1:1 replacement with latin letters instead. That would be a great help in Greece and other funky non-latin countries.

Sorry to say, but there is no such thing as a 1:1 replacement for different scripts. Not even within Latin - did you know that the English "sh" is written in German as "sch", in Polish as "sz", in Hungarian as simple "s" and in some other Slavic languages as "š"? Or that the pronunciation of Oslo would be best approximated in English as "Ooshloo"? Greek may be reasonably doable, as afaik only one major language uses that script. But Cyrillic already has the same problem as Latin scripts: Special variants that have different transliterations depending on the country or even dialect.
This is a topic that linguists spent years on - I don't think it's helpful if Locus on its own implements some simplified (or "half-a**ed") solution...

Greek would be super easy and not "half-arsed"... almost everything translates exactly 1:1, letter by letter. It's quite pointless to expect the Greek OSM contributors to add "translations" for every single language with latin letters. I understand this is nothing with priority, just annoying. Also, a somewhat readable map is *always* better than gibberish, even if it fails on all your linguistics specialties. But since nobody but me travels in Greece with Locus anyway, never mind. I rest my case :-).

It reminds me a bit of buddy tracking and sharing functions. Apparently Locus users travel alone in general, so nothing ever gets fixed. And even in 2024, we call each other with "where are you now?" and "where are you going?" and "your point is not updating!". And we transfer points and tracks via WhatsApp plenty times every single day.

[slarti76]

It would be great if Locus had a
"Always force latin letters"
option somewhere. When a name only has greek or cyrillic writing, you would simply render a 1:1 replacement with latin letters instead. That would be a great help in Greece and other funky non-latin countries.

Sorry to say, but there is no such thing as a 1:1 replacement for different scripts. Not even within Latin - did you know that the English "sh" is written in German as "sch", in Polish as "sz", in Hungarian as simple "s" and in some other Slavic languages as "š"? Or that the pronunciation of Oslo would be best approximated in English as "Ooshloo"? Greek may be reasonably doable, as afaik only one major language uses that script. But Cyrillic already has the same problem as Latin scripts: Special variants that have different transliterations depending on the country or even dialect.
This is a topic that linguists spent years on - I don't think it's helpful if Locus on its own implements some simplified (or "half-a**ed") solution...

Greek would be super easy and not "half-arsed"... almost everything translates exactly 1:1, letter by letter. It's quite pointless to expect the Greek OSM contributors to add "translations" for every single language with latin letters. I understand this is nothing with priority, just annoying. Also, a somewhat readable map is *always* better than gibberish, even if it fails on all your linguistics specialties. But since nobody but me travels in Greece with Locus anyway, never mind. I rest my case :-).

Yeah, I agreed that Greek would probably be doable, but you also mentioned "funky Cyrillic languages", and taken together any solution would be half-a... Not even starting about Chinese, Japanese, Korean, which by the way would also be "super-easy". It's just a bottomless pit, especially for Locus. Perhaps this should be addressed on OSM side? Some mechanism to automatically transliterate Greek and Korean?
No offense meant, you rested your case

[TrulloF]

LineSymbols are back again in latest beta. Thanks.
Wrongly calculated line decorations with dy-values are still there.

[Menion]

@slarti76
"Global map" is indeed currently used only for offline maps. We may expect, that most online maps have a a) global coverage or b) global coverage at least in the low zoom levels. It is not a case of offline maps. You may have a map that has good coverage also in some low zoom levels, but it is not usual I believe. So, for now, it is not possible and I believe it is not necessary at all, except in rare cases, sorry.

@TrulloF
line-symbols fixed > perfect, thanks for confirmation
dy-values > I was not working on it and did not plan in the near future. If this is a general problem in the MapsForge library, you may report it directly to the Emux here.

[michaelbechtold]

Hi Menion,
there is a third kind of maps in Locus: raster maps that are NOT online maps. For those you cannot disable the global map today (I tried that over the weekend, too). I agree with you re. the online maps, but I think other raster maps (in maps folder, not mapsOnline) can stand for themselves.
Cheers
Michael