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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #225 on: March 26, 2020, 11:37:59 »
I think that Josef means by bookmark another TAB. So there should be a screen with three tabs: Recording, GPS, Compass, right?
I just a few days ago thought about separating GPS & Compass so you think exactly opposite :). More tabs > slower display of the screen. Sorry Josef, I'm really not a fan of this "merging" idea. From my point of view, it will really complicate my work and also explanation why these functions are merged and not some others.

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Nearest points > hmm this may be useful, agree. For now, it is possible to at least display them on the map ;)

Generate trip > mystery for me. I'll prepare some debug messages for you into the next version.

Swipe from left > I've noticed this as well, thanks for the reminder

Swipe from bottom > no idea :). Isn't it possible that under finger was shaping/via point so you dragged this point?
Agreed , no need to load it down or slow it down. Sometimes less really is more. Same with POI. I turn them on for the area as needed. I haven't missed one yet.

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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #226 on: March 26, 2020, 12:12:15 »
Swipe from bottom > no idea :). Isn't it possible that under finger was shaping/via point so you dragged this point?
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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #227 on: March 28, 2020, 19:05:28 »
The new record stop button is nice. Maybe it could be kept on display and turn on the recording with it. Or press and hold to pause recording. The icon would have to be changed, but that wouldn't be a problem. In order not to commit to planning, it could hide with the bottom panel, but only when there is no recording.

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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #228 on: March 29, 2020, 10:59:15 »
Setting bottom panel to auto-hide VIA PRESET is not possible.
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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #229 on: March 30, 2020, 08:52:20 »
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- settings for hiding panels apply currently only on the main map screen. Anyway agree that is may be useful to apply them globally on all screens with maps. I'll think about it, thanks.
- "planning buttons" > simply add two points to plan and space will diss-appear ;)

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- permanently visible rec-button: hmm if, then only optionally
- long-click on record button > agree

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I've this in todo list. Because panels have now a little different behavior, they are not yet in presets system.
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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #230 on: March 30, 2020, 15:04:13 »
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- permanently visible rec-button: hmm if, then only optionally
It would then be possible to completely cancel the record button in the side panel.
 

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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #231 on: March 30, 2020, 15:15:38 »


@Žajdlík Josef
- permanently visible rec-button: hmm if, then only optionally
It would then be possible to completely cancel the record button in the side panel.

I would definitely prefer it to be optional. I have never had an issue starting or stopping recording and I use it often on motorcycles. Less permanent tabs on the map screen the better. A double tap on my screen brings up the side bar and there it is. Once activated there is a tab on the map screen to stop. Very easy.

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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #232 on: March 30, 2020, 15:24:25 »
Hiding the record button could be associated with hiding the bottom panel.
 

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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #233 on: March 30, 2020, 15:47:34 »
Hiding the record button could be associated with hiding the bottom panel.
I prefer everything hidden and made available with a double tap. I do like the blue tab to bring up map screen content. Maybe there is room within dynamic content for another option to be readily available. Using cell phones with +/- 5" screens doesn't leave a lot of room for navigation. The less blocking the map the better .

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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #234 on: March 30, 2020, 18:49:54 »
Button on the very edge was better. Now the button is indented a few millimeters from the edge. The map between the Button and the edge cannot be used sensibly.
This is the case for all Buttons that are indented from the side.
 

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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #235 on: April 01, 2020, 08:42:21 »
I myself am satisfied with the current Locus UI, do not see the usefulness of such a heavy UI change (inclusive a NEW Locus Manual), and therefore do not test it, but I sometimes follow the experiences here.
According to the screenshots, should I turn my phone upside down to put trusted Icons such as GPS and so on back in the top panel I have trusted for years? Don't see the use of mixing up all the buttons again? Is it just me? I know I am always a bit suspicious of fashion phenomena, so count on the old fashion to reappear after a few years. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #236 on: April 01, 2020, 11:57:04 »
@ 0709: Yes and no. There are also things that are better than before. You have to be open to new things, otherwise we would still be navigating with the compass today. Of course, not everything new is good. So there is a lot to discuss. Only if it brings advantages and few disadvantages, you should take it over.
For me it is very important to see as much of the map as possible. But to be seen so that it is a coherent surface. Designing buttons flexibly is an issue here. Push where you want them. Or hide and double-click in the sidebar. And others want the buttons on the screen.
 

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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #237 on: April 01, 2020, 13:04:12 »
I myself am satisfied with the current Locus UI, do not see the usefulness of such a heavy UI change (inclusive a NEW Locus Manual), and therefore do not test it, but I sometimes follow the experiences here.
According to the screenshots, should I turn my phone upside down to put trusted Icons such as GPS and so on back in the top panel I have trusted for years? Don't see the use of mixing up all the buttons again? Is it just me? I know I am always a bit suspicious of fashion phenomena, so count on the old fashion to reappear after a few years. ;D ;D ;D
Agree 100% !!
Everything has been fine, a few necessary updates here and there but all was well.
I think rather than a new user learning Locus they want it changed to suit them personally. Their Garmin had this, or the other App had that. Well this is Locus. Learn it and enjoy. They are the squeaky wheel so they get the grease. Meanwhile no one else is complaining so their voice is unheard.
@Menion if it isn't broke don't fix it... Please !! And Please don't clutter up the screen with permanent buttons.
We've only got so much space to work with on the average size cell phone. I don't carry around a huge tablet or mount one to my handlebars.  Give people options but don't make the many that are satisfied have to conform with those that aren't.
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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #238 on: April 01, 2020, 15:07:54 »
@0709, @freischneider, @SonnyS
It's simple: "if it isn't broke don't fix it" > everything on Android brake from time to time and needs a rewrite. Not just stuff inside, but also UI. It is not visible, but more than 50% of my time is spent on UI updates, because with every new Android, new Android library, something stops to work correctly. If I stop changing stuff, I may also stop improving and updating ... it's not broken, so why update it.

Exactly because of what you wrote, we made a decision about Locus Map future. That's main reason, why I'll be "wasting" time and keeping Locus Classic (current Locus Map Pro) with current (as much as possible) UI, current functionality etc ... to keep users who are happy with current app .. still happy.

And who won't be worry to risk a different version, there will be a new Locus Map. Don't search for some mystery here, progress can't be stopped .. at least not progress in my head :).

Anyway, you may still notice, that even that I try to make UI easier and more logical for new users, there still be a lot of options to customize it ... I have a feeling that even more than before :).
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Re: Locus Map 4, discussion
« Reply #239 on: April 01, 2020, 15:12:13 »
Ok fair enough :-)

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