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There was an offending folder in themes with the name MAC_OSX which was from me compressing the new Adventure theme on my mac and no matter what program I tried, sold explorer etc. would not delete this folder....this is what was causing the apache xml blinking error.  I manually exported 2 tracks to gpx files that were after the last full backup then did a full restore and got it working again.

These are really question(s) not really a problem.

Can you explain why one would use Lorouter over Brouter?

Is the backend data different or does Lorouter use the same as brouter.

When I reinstalled v4 fresh did it write over the previous brouter downloaded data??? or since it is a separate app it did not?

tia