there and back again - I give up on LM$ and return to LM3

[macfrank]

Ok, that's it. After two years or so I've finally had enough.
For me LM4's usability was on a steady decline and after the latest mess up with the elevation diagram I decided to reactivate LM3. It will take some time to migrate my data over, but that's just a weekend's task - a bit like cleaning up the house

Attached some of the features LM3 vs. LM4 that I use most.
I think the screeenshots speak for themselves.

so long and thanks for all the fish

[Menion]

Hi @macfrank

thanks for the screenshots. I understand the first image > My library. There was a long discussion about it.

But I do not understand the problem in the second screenshot and the recent big changes in the chart system. If you have a moment and want to tell me more, I'll gladly discuss this.

[Graf Geo]

Apologies for jumping in here briefly:

I imagine that macfrank is missing the ability to adjust the vertical scale or zoom in on the elevation graph. It would be useful for taking a closer look at a short section of incline or decline; I sometimes find myself wishing for that option too. Perhaps something can be done about it.

[Andrew Heard]

on the sub-topic of LM3 <> LM$ - can we expect a small team of developers to work for free? Apple & Google & other huge advertising companies have given us unrealistic expectations.

[macfrank]

Ok, I accidentally pressed shift when typing LM4 I'm a dev myself, so payment is not the main issue.

I wont go into details re the screenshots as I and others did so in the help system already.
Also these are only two examples.
In the 2nd one: LM3 shows instandly the info I need on the popup. Next tap let's me do the things I need often. LM4 at first shows info I dont need, annoyingly centers the tap position on the map and overall the remaining map space is too small.
Re the elevation: TOO SMALL and doesnt show the timestamp of the selected position (i.e. 11:27).
I dont need the other diagrams, but if so I can overlay them in LM3.
So, overall I feel useful features were taken away or buried to deep, UI space is wasted and also features I hoped for never came. Also I realised (suprisingly) that I'd rather separate points and tracks in the lib - at first I was excited about the new possibilities but then I found myself using the filters, so things got more complicated than before.

[Graf Geo]

Whilst I do think the advantages of LM4 over LM3 clearly outweigh the disadvantages, some of the issues you've highlighted are valid, and if those are important to you, it's understandable that you'd prefer to use LM3 (again).

LM4 displays all the track information straight away; one of LM3's advantages is that the information on track points can be accessed more quickly. I'd also have liked the timestamp for the track point I clicked on to be displayed more easily or immediately – it's actually more fiddly in LM4. This has already been pointed out several times here in the forum and/or on the helpdesk.

[Andrew Heard]

Ok, I accidentally pressed shift when typing LM4 I'm a dev myself, so payment is not the main issue.

@macfrank - my apologies; I incorrectly assumed you were having a complaint about LM4 costing more $'s

doesnt show the timestamp of the selected position (i.e. 11:27).

similar to this? https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/40552-3rd-x-axis-chart-option-time-of-day

I'd rather separate points and tracks in the lib

I use 2 different folders?