[APP] - version 4.29.+ ( 4/2025 )

Started by Menion, April 10, 2025, 20:54:53

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Tapio

Yep. Users don't know what search term to use and if no result, there will be doubt if maybe one should use another search term or if the pois just don't exist.
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Andrew Heard

Quote from: Tapio on May 28, 2025, 14:51:48In a distant future my preference would be to have the theme display no poi and LM display hand picked categories of lopoi.
In a not so distant future
moving POI handling from each & every theme back into the core app would simplify each theme
I'd vote +1 for this suggestion
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freischneider

Quote from: Andrew Heard on May 29, 2025, 00:05:10
Quote from: Tapio on May 28, 2025, 14:51:48In a distant future my preference would be to have the theme display no poi and LM display hand picked categories of lopoi.
In a not so distant future
moving POI handling from each & every theme back into the core app would simplify each theme
I'd vote +1 for this suggestion
I agree with you there. But this is just a highlighting point, which is a completely different topic, and it's implemented exactly right here.
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Tapio

Quote from: Andrew Heard on May 29, 2025, 00:05:10In a not so distant future
moving POI handling from each & every theme back into the core app would simplify each theme
Well, it's a matter of theme organisation to be able to show/hide poi (optionally all at once, and efficiently).
For me it's about poi being useful. If they're just printed into the map, and their display depends on priorities and other factors, that's not always useful.

"On my hike, I am exactly interested in a) benches, b) shelters and c) peaks and d) everything related to tourism (i.e. a whole category), please display that" - that's what I wish and what I think is just a very natural approach.

I have a suspicion that the "show all" style Lopoint system is technically not ready for filtering, or maybe it's having performance implications.
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Menion

Search in categories > give it a try guys. If there is be problem in finding what you are looking for, we should improve a catalog of synonyms. If still not good enough, we may talk about "browse in all categories". But I would like to have it as the last option here.

EN results for search > in case, you have the app in, for example, DE and the search for categories finds 0 results, the app tries the same search also as for English texts. So they are not mixed, if there are any results.

@Graf Geo
mixed list of categories > yes I know. It is a little problematic. App now remembers also the translation of the category, so the change of the language does not change it locally. Will update (somehow) later.
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Radim V

Hi all. I believe some background context would be beneficial to this discussion. When we want to "browse", or "traverse" interactive map content, we deal with a tree-like structure seen on the white picture. So we traverse (in UI) cca 150 nodes. This number will grow over time, but there hardly ever will be 500+ nodes. When we search, using the current approach, we have a name and perhaps some close synonyms attached to every point (node). So no need (ideally) to know what name is used for "brewery". "Beer" works too. And here is the Devil in details in my opinion. These terms (dark picture) are 90% human generated. We have them just for a few languages. Even German can be improved greatly I believe. There are false positives for short terms, but "ho" is hotel, hostel, hospital, hot spring...

freischneider

There has recently been a new sign in LoPoi for free and paid parking. Since then, there has been an orange hand for paid parking and a green hand for free parking.
The new symbol itself is much more meaningful than the old one. But you can see less clearly and quickly whether it is free or paid.
Colors can be processed very quickly and reliably by the eye. So I suggest making a light green frame around the symbol for free and a light red frame for paid.

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freischneider

It is not always possible to open highlighted LoPoi.
I have highlighted several categories. Then moved some zoom and map to see if something is nearby. Then I saw 4 highlighted ones on the map. I wanted to open one but it didn't work. I zoomed in further but it still didn't work. Only when I switched off all LoPoi and switched them on again did it work again. This has already happened to me several times.

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freischneider

When planning a bike tour, I have castles, waterfalls, ruins... highlighted. I then zoomed out a little further to see better where there was something interesting. But then the highlighted ones were no longer visible. I think it has to do with the general visibility with zoom. Which is good for LoPoi, because otherwise there are too many. But the highlighted ones only have a few activated. You could allow 2 more zoom levels. Would make planning a lot easier. Especially when cycling, as you can reach a much larger radius here.
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