[APP] - version 4.29.+ ( 4/2025 )

Started by Menion, April 10, 2025, 20:54:53

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slarti76

I also noticed there's still something wrong with the previews: The track is not completely within the preview, previously there was some padding - see screenshot 1.
It's actually the same when using the Share/Export as "Image & stats" or "Track Overview" - see screenshot 2. I assume the same algorithm is used internally to calculate the "bounding box".
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Marek Scholtz

Quote from: Andrew Heard on May 18, 2025, 00:21:074.29.0.7
search > online > category > "Supermarket" > return map - OK
search > online > category > "Food & drink" > return map - but the new category is ignored, the slide up bottom panel still displays supermarkets
bug?

Hi, @Andrew Heard,

thank you for your report. The problem should be solved in the next release version.

luce

I understand that a browser system no longer makes sense when there are hundreds of categories. I don't understand though what this "display only highlighted LoPoints" option has to do with the browser system – it's two separate decisions.
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slarti76

Quote from: luce on May 26, 2025, 19:07:54I understand that a browser system no longer makes sense when there are hundreds of categories. I don't understand though what this "display only highlighted LoPoints" option has to do with the browser system – it's two separate decisions.
I'm confused: I see exactly 10 categories, which fit easily on one page. Is there a "prefilter" that I may have accidentally set?
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Graf Geo

@slarty76: I see 15 (!) catagories in the first list, which can be scrolled. I think this is a preselection of the most important categories. If you use "Search in categories" above, you will find countless other categories.
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slarti76

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Quote from: Graf Geo on May 27, 2025, 13:35:07@slarty76: I see 15 (!) catagories in the first list, which can be scrolled. I think this is a preselection of the most important categories. If you use "Search in categories" above, you will find countless other categories.
Yes, you're right, by searching I find more. But that makes no sense! Without search, I want to see all categories! Right now I see exactly the 10 in the screenshot, with no way to change that. I don't wanna guess category names...
And if it's a "best of": who decided to include "Spring"? This is so personal what would be best of, I'm either missing the place to choose that or it's a bug, especially given that you say you have 15 in the initial list.

Graf Geo

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It makes sense, even if the 10 (15 in my case) "most important categories" may not be ideal for everyone. But I think for many users this is a sensible pre-selection. Over time, however, this list will become your individual history list, as categories that you have been added and later deleted will appear at the top.
You can easily try it out: Add e.g. "Wasserfall" and delete the category again with the rubbish bin icon. If you then click on the plus icon, waterfall will be listed first.

Do you want to see an endless list that you have to scroll through forever? Not me!

What's still not so ideal at the moment is that the search also accepts English search terms and displays the results in German, which of course often doesn't match the first initial letters. I search for "loc" and get "Gepäckschließfach" as a result (because English is "locker"). Or entering "air" returns "Flughafen". There is still room for optimisation.

Perhaps Menion could make it so that a * can be used as a placeholder for everything. So that you search for * and get your endless list. Although I really don't know if that would make sense if there are several 100 or maybe even 1000 categories...


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slarti76

Quote from: Graf Geo on May 27, 2025, 16:22:14It makes sense, even if the 10 (15 in my case) "most important categories" may not be ideal for everyone. But I think for many users this is a sensible pre-selection. Over time, however, this list will become your individual history list, as categories that you have been added and later deleted will appear at the top.
You can easily try it out: Add e.g. "Wasserfall" and delete the category again with the rubbish bin icon. If you then click on the plus icon, waterfall will be listed first.
Ah, ok, didn't realize that it's a "recents" list. That's good, agreed.

Quote from: Graf Geo on May 27, 2025, 16:22:14Do you want to see an endless list that you have to scroll through forever? Not me!
Me neither, but what's wrong with the nested list used by "LoPoints (offline)"? Would be consistent, why have a one-level "everything but the kitchen sink" list here and a categorized list for off line points?
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freischneider

Quote from: slarti76 on May 28, 2025, 09:01:11
QuoteWillst du eine endlose Liste sehen, die du ewig durchscrollen musst? Ich nicht!
Ich auch nicht, aber was ist falsch an der verschachtelten Liste, die von ,,LoPoints (offline)" verwendet wird? Es wäre konsequent, warum hier eine einstufige ,,Alles außer der Küchenspüle"-Liste und eine kategorisierte Liste für Offline-Punkte?
If the system is only for highlighted POIs, then I would leave it as it is now. You know which ones you want to highlight, so you don't need them all.
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Menion

@slarti76
track in "Image & stats" > interesting. Can't simulate it. Does it have not just for one track?

10 categories > these are pre-selected by us. Not just random, but quite precisely selected most useful categories. It will personalize as you use this function.

@luce
Quote from: luce on May 26, 2025, 19:07:54I understand that a browser system no longer makes sense when there are hundreds of categories. I don't understand though what this "display only highlighted LoPoints" option has to do with the browser system – it's two separate decisions.
not sure what I wanted to say, sorry. Yes, of course, both these features are not directly connected. I probably wanted to say, that displaying all categories in a "Browser style" is now more complicated and not so useful.

@Graf Geo
search in categories > we will look at it, thanks! Btw. do you have the app in German??
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Graf Geo

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Quote from: Menion on May 28, 2025, 10:55:59@Graf Geo
search in categories > we will look at it, thanks! Btw. do you have the app in German??

Yes, I normally use the German language setting.

The name of the added category is displayed in the language that is currently set in Locus and remains so even if I change the language again.

  • Locus in German: Added categories in German.
  • I switch to English and add further categories: Display in English. The others remain in German.
  • I switch to Spanish and add more categories: Display in Spanish. The others remain in German and English.

I now have a linguistically mixed list (see screenshot).  :)
Of course, this is not a common use case. I only tried it out of interest.

In each language, the English names are also found if you enter the corresponding first letters (as already written). If the app is set to Spanish, "subw" finds Estaciones de metro (= subway station).
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slarti76

Quote from: Menion on May 28, 2025, 10:55:59@slarti76
track in "Image & stats" > interesting. Can't simulate it. Does it have not just for one track?
Yeah, although it doesn't happen consistently. One time I tried, the previews started out correct, but when I came back to app they were like that. Don't really care about the previews, but the image exports are a shame when you don't see the whole track. Anything I can do to help debug?

Quote from: Menion on May 28, 2025, 10:55:5910 categories > these are pre-selected by us. Not just random, but quite precisely selected most useful categories. It will personalize as you use this function.
Yeah, I realized this by now, and I like it.

Still, why is it a flat list here as compared to the nested one as in "LoPoints (offline"). Search is nice, but sometimes it's useful to scroll through all options, and that's obviously easier when structured.

A compromise could be this:
Start with prefilled/most used list, but allow wildcard "*". So when user just enters "*", they get the full list (and cannot complain about its length, because they asked for it ;) ).
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freischneider

@slarti76
If visible on the map, a complete list makes sense. But here it is only about highlighted ones. If you want to highlight something, then you already know what you want to highlight. Therefore, it makes no sense here and you are faster with the search. Most of the time they are always the same and are therefore in the list.
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Tapio

#133
Testing themes on top of oam map, turning on/off theme options, zooming in/out - Locus loves to crash especially in bigger cities with many poi, like Dortmund. Anyone?

eg Voluntary theme at zoom 21 here: 51.51327183, 7.46400446

Press minus for zoom out a few times, boom ctd

In a distant future my preference would be to have the theme display no poi and LM display hand picked categories of lopoi.
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slarti76

Quote from: freischneider on May 28, 2025, 14:13:57@slarti76
If visible on the map, a complete list makes sense. But here it is only about highlighted ones.
I honestly don't know what you mean. Perhaps you have another use case? I mean, highlighting is just an additional feature, but it starts with selecting categories to show on the map. And there, just like I did with "LoPoints (offline)", I want to click on the respective button and browse through a list.
Let's say I'm looking for mountains - dunno how OAM stores them, "mountain", "peak", "summit"? Don't wanna try all 3 search words, typing on phone is a nuisance. But it's definitely "Nature", so in offline points I scroll to root category "Nature", open it, and voilà: "Peak".

And yes, ok, the search is intelligent enough to show "peak" when typing "summit". It's just the first example that came to mind, but there will always be similar words that are not found by the search. And again, typing is hard, especially with gloves, so a nested list is often better.