[APP] - version 4.29.+ ( 4/2025 )

Started by Menion, April 10, 2025, 20:54:53

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Graf Geo

Beta 4.29.0.5

When I open the route planner, Locus crashes regularly.

New LoPoints online categories feature - good idea, but I don't know if it's intentional: I can add categories, but the "activate" button does the same thing as the normal LoPoints online button. All LoPoints are shown/hidden. I would have expected that only the added categories would remain highlighted when I activated the button.

Because the route planner cannot be used in this way, I have to downgrade to 4.29.0.3.
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Andrew Heard

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4.29.0.5 (& no doubt earlier versions too) - search online address & places - press single letter & list comes up with POI from other side of the world. This has always been the case as I've reported a few times before. Can't the search be centered over the current position? Surely it makes no sense?
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Quote from: Graf Geo on May 10, 2025, 00:25:16When I open the route planner, Locus crashes regularly.
@Graf Geo - sorry to read, just checked, it's working for me.
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Agus

Quote from: Graf Geo on May 10, 2025, 00:25:16Beta 4.29.0.5

When I open the route planner, Locus crashes regularly.

New LoPoints online categories feature - good idea, but I don't know if it's intentional: I can add categories, but the "activate" button does the same thing as the normal LoPoints online button. All LoPoints are shown/hidden. I would have expected that only the added categories would remain highlighted when I activated the button.

Because the route planner cannot be used in this way, I have to downgrade to 4.29.0.3.

The same thing happens to me. The application closes when I try to open the route planner.
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Tapio

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Interesting first step as for lopoints. Not working very well yet, strange categories, but a start.

Route planner crash as well. Crashlog attached. Start of Locus and click on Route Planner.
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slarti76

Quote from: freischneider on May 05, 2025, 19:46:22The preview images are no longer displayed and can no longer be activated by a long click.
Talking about the previews: Is there a chance to make them bigger again? With the new Data Manager, they got smaller, especially on tabs there's some wasted space.

And while I'm at the new Database:
I just came back from a longer vacation, was a little weary to update just a few days before that (end of February), just gotta say: Amazing work! Not one hitch during 2 months! Thx a bunch to Menion, his team, and of course all testers here!
That being said, I got one bother: Why are the UI on phones and tabs so different? On phone, I have a bottom bar with actions, giving direct access to New, Visibility/Selection, Sorting, Filtering plus Overflow menu. On tab, I only got the menu in the upper right. Worse, some things are much harder to access, e.g. "Select All": On phone - two clicks. On tab - 4 clicks.
Why not just have the bottom bar on tabs, too?
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slarti76

While I'm at it, during my vacation I did notice a few hiccups outside of the new db:
  • Image Calibration: I can load a GIF as source, but creating the calibrated image fails.
  • Attached images: Images attached to a point are not opened in full resolution. This can be very annoying, e.g. I had a big, very detailed Kyoto Public Transportation Map downloaded and attached to some points, but still had to open it in another viewer, because in Locus I could hardly read anything. If there's a reason Locus can't display in full resolution, there should at least be option to open in external viewer.
  • Share from GMaps: Sharing location from Google Maps is hit or miss: Very often, nothing happens at all, Android just switches to Locus and that's it. This happens especially if Locus wasn't open. Usually I just repeat the share and then it works. However, rarely, Locus surprisingly goes into text search. I'd guess that sometimes Locus is internally in a wrong "search mode" and then doesn't interpret the correct part of the GMaps share.
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freischneider

Highlighting online POIs is great. I was able to use it several times during the WE.
What is missing is the control of POIs that are not highlighted. But I don't need all of them. Sometimes a lot are displayed and the overview is lost. If you could choose which ones you don't want to have displayed at all, that would be nice.
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Graf Geo

Highlighting online POIs:

After the crashfix in 4.29.0.6, I have now looked into this in more detail.

I would have expected a filtering of the normal LoPoint icons, as there are far too many of them, many of which are not always needed. Especially in urban areas. But highlighting also has its advantages. Adding unlisted categories via the search is sometimes a bit tedious, as numerous individual points are also found. But ok as a first version.

And as I already wrote, the "Activate" button is not implemented correctly in my opinion. It has the same effect as the normal switch to show/hide the LoPoints. It would make more sense and be more logical for me if the "Activate" button only controlled the highlighting of the added categories.

Example: I have added the categories shelter, spring, viewpoint and picnic area. If I am on a hike, I would like to show these highlighted if necessary, otherwise not. This should be controllable via the "Activate" button in the new menu. However, the normal small LoPoint icons should remain visible when the main switch in the left panel Map content is active.

At the moment, highlighting is always active, as both switches have the same effect and are "coupled". If I activate one, the other is automatically activated too. I have to delete all the categories and add them again if necessary to switch highlighting on or off.

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luce

LoPoints highlighting is a great improvement.

Displaying all the other points one was not looking for can make sense in rural regions, but can be too much information in cities (see screenshot 1).

As Graf Greo wrote, the "Activate" button only doubles the eye symbol in the map content menu. So what about leaving the button in its place and changing it's functionality to "Show all LoPoints", default = on?

Furthermore, I'd like to have the possibility to browse subcategories of LoPoints. By now, I can only search for terms "in the dark" without knowing which categories are offered.

Next thing, I agree with slarti76 concerning the size of the route preview thumbnails. They are so small that hardly any information can be read out of them. If they would be larger, you could recognise routes not only by their title but also by their thumbnail. That would make browsing the database easier and faster.

And my last thought for now :) for me the graphical distinction between folders and points in the database could be clearer (see screenshot 2). I understand that the folder symbol identifies a folder as folder :) But, for instance, would it make sense to display the folders a bit larger than the points or find another kind of clearer distinction (different background colour, folder title in bold letters, ...)?

Best,
Lucas

luce

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... Okay, my idea for the "Activate" button is very similar to Graf Geo's...  Hm... not sure which variant is more intuitive  :o
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freischneider

It might also make sense to emphasize your own points.
I'm doing a tour and have a few points of my own that are important to me.
Or I go geocaching and only want to see certain caches.
I create a folder (favorites) and copy the points there. Then I can select the "My own points" category in LoPoi. I can then select a folder. This remains until I change it. This way I remain flexible in my choice of folder and may not have to copy the points there every time.
The points in the folder are then highlighted.

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Andrew Heard

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4.29 beta - this may have already been raised, but I am finding the point sharing from Google Maps to LM has broken again. If LM is not running when the GM share is performed then LM is opened & the map positioned correctly. However if LM is running when the GM share is performed then the LM map isn't repositioned/ the share is ignored. Rather a shame as I'm just about to start a 7 week cycle trip where this linkage has been very useful on previous trips.

When I share a point from GM into a text editor app, the URL is for example: https://maps.app.goo.gl/57XBGPqXz5gEqpA17
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Andrew Heard

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A minor inconsistency with WebPlanner 1.55.7 I don't think is worth a separate help topic. There is an inconsistency with the "in" & "out", "left" & "right" < > ^ \/ symbols for the left & bottom panels, for when they are opened/ closed. I think the left panel symbol better reflects the intention, but either way, the bottom panel symbol is the reverse, so inconsistent.
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Menion

@Graf Geo
too fat lines in track previews > should be fixed, thanks

@Andrew Heard
search results > this is a little more complicated. Why? Because I gave up on the search in the app and left it to other guys. They are not so active here on the forum  :-\ . So the best is to push on the help desk. You have my support!  ;)

@slarti76
UI difference > easy - on tab, you probably did a fresh install right? I've decided to offer two modes. Easy for a new users (less buttons etc) and "compatibility" for existing users, so the shock is not so big. Change it in the myLib menu > "Style" dialog.

OnBoardCalibrator - GIF > ahh, limited to jpg and png for now, thanks.

Quality of attached images > hmm, will look at it.

Share from GMaps > more users already reported it and I was never able to simulate it while behind the PC  :-\. Anyway @Andrew Heard also wrote about it here, so I'll try to look at it again.

@luce
track preview > I think there simply isn't enough space for bigger previews. The solution is to prepare "Grid" view (two or more columns) like in a photo browser


distinction of folders > good point. I also wanted, but always forgot to think more about it. Added to "todo".

@freischneider
mix highlight of own points and LoPoints > not a good idea, sorry. To highlight some own points, maybe using "Circles" for certain folders? (just edit the metadata of the folder and enable drawing of circles below icons).



Highlight of POI
I'll look at it more next week, thanks to all for the feedback for now.
Just a few notes
- there won't be browsing of POIs for new online and offline V2 LoPoints like for the old system. The category tree is now a lot more complicated, and we believe that browsing in the structure of points is not needed and may be covered by the search.
- search should use synonyms, so you do not need to know the exact category name
- Official help (ideas, questions, problems): help.locusmap.eu
- Advanced topics, sharing of knowledges: you're here!
- LM 4 Beta download, LM 4 Release download

Andrew Heard

bug(?): when a copy of a track is made, the thumbnail for the new copy is not generated
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