[APP] - version 4.27/4.28.+ ( 12/2024 )

[balloni55]

V 4.28.0.1
GPS off
When I move the map and then centre it again (to last known pos), GPS automatically switches on.

Where can I disable this?

[Menion]

There is currently no setting for this behavior. Is it really a problem?

This change should have been in the app since 4.27, so there is nothing completely new in this test version.

The reason for this, is to make the whole "Where am I" flow easier to understand. I've just today also improved the style of the centering button a little more, to make it even more clear if "Location" is disabled in the system or permission for location is missing.

[balloni55]

as i have not been active lately i have only just realised
Yes it is important for me, if I switch off GPS consciously I don't want it to be switched on unintentionally by any action

[michaelbechtold]

It's definitely annoying. I did notice when that change happened, but was too busy to kick off and follow up a thread.
I'm happy not to be alone :-) !!

[Andrew Heard]

I had noticed the new behaviour, but wasn't prepared to say anything until I read the 3 other posts. For me it's just a minor issue, but agree if I turn off GPS I don't want it silently turned back on. I want to decide. For many users, the exact opposite would be the preferred.

[Menion]

Oki, thanks, I'll try to improve it ...

EDIT:
In the end, I believe that current behavior is correct and expected for most of users. You tap "center" to move to your current location. If GPS is disabled? Well, then this button moves you almost anywhere closer ...

Maybe you have not noticed, but the latest public version does not enable GPS by default when the app starts. This allows not to ask for location permission immediately, but later when the user really needs a location. The correct moment is tap on the centering button.

Solution for you? The new "Enable GPS when centering" setting will be in the "Expert settings" in the next app version.

[Tapio]

That's great, I understood, but also didn't like GPS On on centering.

[slarti76]

That's great, I understood, but also didn't like GPS On on centering.

I'm probably overlooking something here, but where should the Center button center without GPS? Don't wanna be obnoxious, but I agree with Menion that this would be (generally) expected behaviour.

[Tapio]

You don't overlook anything. It should either try a cheaper position retrieval (Google, wifi), or a last known, or none. I prefer it over having to turn GPS off again.

The use case is often not "where a I exactly", but "please center map to my area, because I'm currently reviewing far away tracks". I think that's the point.

[Žajdlík Josef]

I don't like GPS on centering either. I suggest the following solutions. Click the Center to turn on GPS, but only temporarily. After reaching an accuracy of about 50 m, the GPS would automatically turn off.

[Menion]

You don't overlook anything. It should either try a cheaper position retrieval (Google, wifi), or a last known, or none. I prefer it over having to turn GPS off again.

The use case is often not "where a I exactly", but "please center map to my area, because I'm currently reviewing far away tracks". I think that's the point.

Exactly. But this is the case for all of us NOW ... we play at home with the app. Use-case outside? I press "center" and don't wanna care about it.

Maybe there is a different solution for this? Like a "pin" a certain location on the map and allows to easily return back to this point? Something like enabled guidance with the pinned place floating around the screen? Because "center button" is still "center button" > center map to my current location! And we bend it to a little different use case.

[freischneider]

What has the behavior been like in recent years? Everyone was happy then.
When GPS is off, centering just doesn't work. Then the user has to switch GPS on first. The advantage is that I then know that it is on. If it only switches on briefly, then I think it is on and later it is not on.
So the user has to actively switch it on and actively switch it off. and it should be clear to everyone that they cannot find their current location without GPS.

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