My library (Data manager), V2, pre-release

[Menion]

@balloni55
these are automatic backup files, that are created before the conversion of the database. Conversion is quite a complex task, so this is a safe mechanism that allows restoring old state without worry about data loss.

sync availability > I'm almost sure, the whole system will be published during February. If sync will also be enabled for testing this week, not sure now, sorry.

@Graf Geo
manual segments > thanks, should be fixed

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Search
We will see, anyway for now, all search should match start of every word. Dual system with "*" is an interesting idea, we may discuss it later ...

[Graf Geo]

Thanks for RC22 - just installed and checked a few things.

Manual sorting of folders - great!
Manual segments: issue still there, but the apk is probably older (08:13) as your post before (11:00).

Search option into ChooseFolderDialogue: Fine, but there is sometimes - not always - a problem: I want to move or copy a track or point. I click on "Folder" and then on the magnifying glass icon (search). I enter a search term. I get a list of suitable folders and select the one I want. Normally it is enough to click on the folder to complete the operation. But sometimes the folder gets a blue tick. Now I can't do anything, the view remains as it is. I first have to manually delete the search word at the top (using the backspace key) and then close the search, only then can I select the desired target folder. I have not yet been able to find out why this sometimes happens.
See screenshot.

Edit:I have now tried again, but unfortunately the problem is now permanent. When I try to move or copy a point or track and select the destination folder via the search, the blue tick always appears and I have to delete the search string and close the search. Weired...

[freischneider]

I think sorting folders manually is great
Sorting tracks automatically could be improved:
Sort by name: ABC = default / ZYX = reverse sorting
Sort by distance: short distance = standard / long distance = reverse sorting
This is good so far and also corresponds to the general expectation

When sorting by Created on or Updated on, the sorting does not meet the general expectations.
I would have expected: newest first = standard / oldest first = reverse sorting

But it is the other way around. Most people are looking for the most recently updated or the newest. To do this, they have to activate the reverse sorting each time and deactivate it again for a different sorting.
Can you change this?

[Graf Geo]

I agree. Folders, Tracks and Points:  newest first = standard would be better.
But track length or elevation gain I prefer standard = longest/highest first.
I imagine most users want to see their best performance first.

[Graf Geo]

Just for your information: I just realised that you can't create as many (sub)folder levels as you like.

A maximum of 6 levels is possible (with root):
Root - tracks - subfolder level 1 - subfolder level 2 - subfolder level 3 - subfolder level 4

That is of course more than enough and otherwise it would become too confusing. But I was not aware of this until now.

[40°]

MapGooglePlayAfa_4.28.0.2 MyLibV2 RC22_1164_beta
The locus fails if you select another vector map theme and close the sidebar with a swipe without waiting for it to load the theme itself.

Tested on Lenovo P2 Android 7
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-jxzjb8lNbvWmRGlfY048AgC-EIdEg4Q/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oaYOlAxlfZdbuQINrHqmY8O_ipYhWUep/view?usp=drivesdk

and Samsung Android 10
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bm1lfzdZfA5ghvKRtZjKsHOxxUPi8wHW/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JGim-Ey_xkGu3FSulI9rSsR7lMAko0j6/view?usp=drivesdk

[Graf Geo]

I have sorted my folders manually. But when I want to move a track/point/folder, the list of folders in the destination folder is sorted alphabetically again.

It would be clearer and better if the manual sorting was retained.

[Graf Geo]

And another thing: when I select the destination folder when copying/moving, an fullscreen info window "Nothing here yet" always appears. Even if there are already numerous points/tracks/subfolders in the destination folder. Which is usually the case.

This is at least irritating, but also illogical or incorrect.

Here, as with normal opening in the library, the existing content should be displayed or another text, e.g. "Select this folder".

[Menion]

Hi guys,

great news > version RC23 with bunch of news published. Mainly, enabled SYNC + new version of our web portal ready for testing. Till you do the first sync, the web still lives in version 1. After the first sync is done, you should see a web portal switched to version 2 and since this moment, no more sync from any other device on V1 will be allowed.

The web is work-in-progress so some features do not yet work or are in preparation, but the core is already done and ready to use.

News in the version:
4.28.0.2 MyLibV2 RC23
  - chg: sync enabled for all versions
  - add: support for display of all shared items in single folder
  - chg: improved handling of tracks/routes shared over the web (display immediately)
  - fix: correctly remember last used folder for import
  - chg: united folder icons on few places
  - chg: removed requirements for Premium in case of point/track label prefs
  - chg: removed search in "My library" from the global Search menu
  - chg: sort icon reflect ascending/descending order
  - chg: sort by date is now inverted (newest first)

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@Graf Geo
- sort of the folders in the "chooser" > I'll look at it
- "nothing here yet" - "Even if there are already numerous points/tracks/subfolders in the destination folder." - really also sub-folders?? Anyway text has already changed in the new version. This is really only a plain folder-browser so displaying points/tracks complicate it a little ...

[slarti76]

I think sorting folders manually is great
Sorting tracks automatically could be improved:
Sort by name: ABC = default / ZYX = reverse sorting
Sort by distance: short distance = standard / long distance = reverse sorting
This is good so far and also corresponds to the general expectation

When sorting by Created on or Updated on, the sorting does not meet the general expectations.
I would have expected: newest first = standard / oldest first = reverse sorting

But it is the other way around. Most people are looking for the most recently updated or the newest.

Disagree. Standard sorting is always ascending, and I'm sure decades of Windows Explorer & Co. have people expecting files and other things sorted old>new. At least as default.

However, what you describe sounds like the sort order is not stored anymore on a per-folder basis?! That of course would be a step back. (Didn't get to try it out yet, soon going on a long vacation and unsure whether I should still dare update to V2 before that).

[Mick FU]

Hi guys,


  - chg: removed search in "My library" from the global Search menu

Oh, no 🙁
How to manage a search for track, without having any text search, but just search track near screen center?

Without search in my library, workaround I found is to search fir text I know it exists, then tracks are highlighted in upper found list bubble, click on it, and then delete search text.
Not nice.... 😭🤔

[Menion]

@slarti76
sort per folder is still working, no change here

@Mick FU
the previous button was useless, it only opened the My Library screen and its search. Simply open the My Library screen and tap on the search button at the top bar.

Otherwise, main search named "Online address and places" also suggests content from My Library in the small top "chip" button.

[Graf Geo]

Thanks for RC23, WebSync is finally possible. 🙂

Unfortunately, the manual folder sorting is not applied in the web app either, as here. Is this planned for the future? Otherwise the manual sorting is only half as useful if it is always different in other views.

"nothing here yet" - really also sub-folders?
You're right, subfolders are listed and with the changed text that's ok for me. 👍

Manual segments: seems to be fixed. 🙂

Furthermore, I have the big problem that copying/moving does not work properly if you want to select the destination folder via the folder search. See this post.

[Menion]

As I wrote > on the web and also iOS, it is a work in progress. In the end, all three places should offer very similar experiences. The web is finally moving quite a lot, so I'm sure this will be implemented soon as well.

Copy&move problem > I can't simulate it. When searching, click on the folder should open in the same window found folder and then you have to click on the bottom "Select" to confirm it.

[Graf Geo]

Thanks.

Copy Move - I give an example with 7 screenshots (SS 5-7 in next/second post) :

I have a folder called "Testfolder". In it I have three points (SS1).

Now I select the two items that I want to move to a folder called "Nice places" and click on "Move". (SS2)

The view changes to the root level (SS3). I click on the magnifying glass at the top right and type "Nic". The folder is found. (SS4)

Now I click on it. A blue tick appears on the right. (SS5) That's it. Further clicking does nothing, nor does the message "Select" appear.

Only when I delete the entry manually using the backspace key (then the "No results" page appears, SS6) and then end the search using the arrow at the top left does the "Select" window appear (SS7).