My library (Data manager), V2

[Menion]

New RC16 version published.

Among a bunch of minor fixes, the main changes are related to multi-operations (show/hide, delete, move) of folders and the performance of the "Show" operation.

@freischneider
icon > hmm, missing, oki, will add later, thanks.

[Graf Geo]

I accidentally downloaded the normal current beta version (apk) on my old test device with the My Library version and used it to update my My Library version. As a result, I had the previous structure with "My points" and "My tracks" again. Both empty, of course.

I then downloaded the correct apk (my library RC 16) and updated it again. Everything is ok, all tracks and points are back.

But: I now have two folders under root, points and tracks, with different icons. See screenshot. The first one contains the data, the second one is empty.

If I want to delete the empty folder, this is not possible because both folders can only be selected together. If I tick one, the other is also selected.

However, I can copy, move or save a point or track in the empty folder. It is then also displayed in the folder.

Nevertheless, the same information is displayed in front of both points and tracks folders regarding the number shown and the number available.

How can I get rid of the two duplicates without having to uninstall and reinstall the app?

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[Graf Geo]

Ok, I tried something and it worked: I created a new tracks and points folder and then moved the entire contents of the two old folders (filled with my files) into the new folders.

I then selected and deleted the two old "linked" tracks and points folders. Now all seems to be fine.

Still strange what happened.

[Menion]

Hmm, I'm surprised that the database survived such an "update" without bigger problem

What about opening the folder (second screenshot) and then tapping on the top "(Red rect) Punkte" button in the top panel > Delete?

[Graf Geo]

A few comments on the search in the My Library version:

The search in my library - I click on the search icon (magnifying glass) and the search immediately starts in the entire database before I can enter a search term. This is annoying and I have to click on the arrow on the right again to be able to set further options such as "also search in descriptions".

This is better solved in the old version: I click on search (magnifying glass), then the menu opens where I can select options and enter the search term and only when I click on the magnifying glass icon again does the search start.

I also very much hope that I will soon be able to deactivate the display of folders when searching for tracks and points near my cursor position. I have already suggested this. At the moment I have to scroll laboriously until I finally get the first tracks and points listed by distance from the cursor.

Otherwise the search works well!

[Graf Geo]

... What about opening the folder (second screenshot) and then tapping on the top "(Red rect) Punkte" button in the top panel > Delete?

Hello Menion, I didn't even know about this option and therefore didn't try it. It's too late now, I've already deleted the duplicate folders by other means. 🙂

[Graf Geo]

Two additions to the search in My Library (see my last post):

1. the search does not remember that I also want to search in the descriptions. I have to check this box every time. It would be nice if the last state was retained.

2. if I select the first X items in the search result, at least no folders are marked (which are always listed first). Unfortunately, the smallest X is 50, which is usually way too much for me. It would be nice if you could select smaller values like 5, 10 and 20 or even better if you could enter the number freely.

[Andrew Heard]

Hmm, I'm surprised that the database survived such an "update" without bigger problem

@Menion - DB "survived" for me too

What about opening the folder (second screenshot) and then tapping on the top "(Red rect) Punkte" button in the top panel > Delete?

I have same issue - 2 top level "Points" folders, 2 top level folders "Tracks" & "XYZ" - when I select 1 the other is selected. I don't see any "button in the top panel"?

It's been a while since I tested V2 features - excellent improvements - Solid Explorer-like breadcrumbs, multiple operations etc.

"Backuping data" - funny, intentional? maybe "Backing up data"?
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Cloud sync in V2? Really? I don't dare ;-)
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[Graf Geo]

Sync: you can dare it without any risk, Andrew Heard. You will get a error message that sync system is not yet enabled...

[Andrew Heard]

latest V2 beta: long tap folder > tap Eye (bottom panel) > loading... I have seen up to 3000% (!). Surely it should not be above 100%? Maybe sub-folder items not accounted for?
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I have my top level folders named as year 2025, 2024, 2023... At present I have a hack of naming folders with 1st character to force reverse sorting order so 2025 appears at top, instead of at bottom (after 2007). Windows Explorer sorts folders by same logic/ settings as sort of filenames. Has any consideration been given to doing the same for V2 library?
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What is this "world/lock" icon next to 3 tracks, but not (many) others in the same folder? I can't see why they are different. Tap icon for tip/ description?
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Bottom panel "Selection" icon: at present it only applies to tracks/ points; disabled if only folders are in the list. Maybe dangerous to allow "Select all" but at least it could allow "Deselect all"? Especially in combination with "Sub-folders" because at present each folder must be individually de-selected - tedious.
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Best wishes to the whole Locus team.

[Andrew Heard]

Shouldn't the select menu should have "Deselect all" & "Invert selection" enabled?
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Improvement for filtering by points... here is a selection of points in a folder:
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tap POINTS > tap Add button > would a more useful list would contain all the existing point icons in the current folder? My current icon sets: Recently used, Default (points), Garmin, External icons; please add to this list "In this folder"?
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And to be clear: when no icons are added but the POINTS filter is enabled, it means the filter includes ALL icons. Maybe a label is displayed for this default to make it clearer to the user? This would be consistent with the reverse situation when the POINTS filter is disabled in which a label "Points will be filtered out completely" is displayed.

[Menion]

@Graf Geo
- search starts immediately> I would like to keep this system. It mimics the current core search system, where the whole search is not primarily based on the "click on search" button, but the search is searching while you are typing.

- deactivate search of folders > done

- search does not remember settings > improved, thanks

- "Select X items" > hmm, I'm not sure about this feature at all, anyway will try to open and discuss in the team later

@Andrew Heard
"button in the top panel" > I mean a top panel with a path. Simply tap on the current active folder and you get one old basic menu.

"backuping data" > app does a full backup before converting the database. But "Backup up data" is better, thanks. Btw. my English is as is (not perfect). Final text revision will be done by Michal before the texts are available for translation.

3000% > ah I see, only for tracks right? Fixed

Sort of folders > my idea currently is to implement manual sorting of folders by drag&drop

"World icon" > it is a "Shared" icon. It informs that these tracks are public so already shared and available over shared links.

Selection of folders > improved

"Deselect all & Invert disabled > you are not in the selection mode, no items are selected so nothing to "deselect".

icons for filter > good point with icons from the current folder. Added to todo

[Andrew Heard]

Sort of folders > my idea currently is to implement manual sorting of folders by drag&drop

@Menion - oh wow !! perfect

"World icon" > it is a "Shared" icon. It informs that these tracks are public so already shared and available over shared links.

clever - but does the user need some hint so doesn't have to ask same question as me? Is it also possible to un-share?

"Deselect all & Invert disabled > you are not in the selection mode, no items are selected so nothing to "deselect".

screencap #1 > long-tap to select any POI > tap bottom menu (dot-dot-dot) > Select is enabled - correct:
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BUT screencap #2 > long-tap to select any folders > tap menu (dot-dot-dot) > Select is disabled - inconsistent? - there is no way to quickly select or DESELECT any/ all folders:
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[Andrew Heard]

Contrasting the look & feel of the Solid Explorer & MyLibV2 navigation breadcrumbs, I find the "current folder" is more obvious in Solid Explorer. I think this will be a source of confusion & frustration for new users.

Solid Explorer:
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MyLibV2:
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Of course, just like the issue with compass in sunlight, it looks worse on the screen than with a nice screen capture on a big PC screen, but I find there is insufficient distinction between the "current folder", and the "other folders" i.e. the concept of a "current folder". With Solid Explorer the "other folders" are a much lighter color gray. The icon doesn't change or help with the distinction either.

Even worse when the root icon is tapped, there is very little visual feedback other than subtle change of icon color between blue & black. This isn't helped because the icon is quite small but with subtle detail.
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The Windows task bar goes a further step to help with distinction, with a wider underline for the active process:
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Here are some suggestions:

• use more contrasting colors similar to Solid Explorer for text - it should be more obvious there is the concept of a "current folder" & "other folders" - "disabled"/ light-gray-mono coloring for text of "other folders", maybe? darker blue for "current folder" text. The greater than sign > can be light-gray too.
• use "disabled"/ light-gray-mono coloring for "other folders" icons; at present they don't change at all
• blue is quite subtle - maybe even red? or an underline like Windows taskbar?
• can anyone see the little house in the root icon on their device screen, as opposed from a screen capture? is there too much fine detail - would just a house by itself be more recognizable? then a change in color or mono/color will be more obvious

Finally: tap Root icon (once or twice) > Edit folder > change icon > Save - but the breadcrumb icon never changes. Is there any use having this custom root icon other than display in sub folder icons? Allow default folder-house breadcrumb icon to be replaced with own selected icon for consistency.

[Graf Geo]

To be honest, this is probably a matter of taste or habit. I find the current breadcrumb display in MyLib good and the one in Solid Explorer too pale.
As I also want to be able to clearly read the parent folders to navigate in the folder structure, they should not be as pale grey as in SE.

BTW: Merry Christmas! 🎄