My library (Data manager), V2

[Graf Geo]

... But I think it's easy to tell the difference. There is only one line of text in a folder
In a point or track there is more information. Date, KM, distance, altitude.
and in a folder there are 0/4 for the contained elements.  So enough to clearly recognize a difference. What do other users say.
You could also make a separator in Locus Blue between the symbol and the text in folders. Or a frame around the symbol. ...

I agree with freischneider. Optional own icons for the folders in normal size. The word "folder" is superfluous, at the moment (RC9) this is also removed, which is good. If the subfolders are always listed first in a parent folder and then the tracks or points, there should be no differentiation problems. Especially as I can then choose certain unique icons for my folders and others for the points. The tracks have the mini-map icon anyway.

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[Agus]

Hello.
In the new data manager when importing a route containing points it does not appear in which folder to place the points.

In the current data manager it does appear the way to choose in which folders will be the routes and points.

[Andrew Heard]

Android 8 is definitely not old. This happens right after installation, so even before restoring a backup? Simple clean install and start?

@Menion

>right after installation
yes

>so even before restoring a backup?
yes

>Simple clean install and start?
1st install was upgrade from 4.26.2

2nd install was after uninstall of 4.26.3.1_1149
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3rd attempt (testing with Lenovo Tab 4 tablet running Android 8.1, portrait orientation, nothing much special I can think of):

• deleted folder: internal memory/Locus
• installed MapGooglePlay_4.26.3.1 MyLibV2 RC9_1149_beta.apk
• open
• Android displays "Locus Map has stopped, open app again"
• full bug report on its way - I hope it helps so I can do some testing

[Graf Geo]

...
Filtres: I know they've always been there, but I've never used them before and just don't understand how to use them. Is there a manual for this? Anyway, I've never missed it before.
...

Ok, now I've had a look at it. It's actually quite easy to understand in the previous Locus version.

In MyLib RC9 I find it confusing at first, how to use the filter manager etc., but I'm slowly finding my way around, at least in part.

However, the filter menu (UI) is not ideal. When the keyboard opens, the text field (where I type the text) is cut off.
EDIT: If I reconfigure my keyboard so that it's smaller, it works - but that's a stopgap solution. The text field should be completely visible even with a larger keyboard.

And at the bottom right is a thick blue vertical bar, which probably serves as a button for "OK" or "Apply".
EDIT: I have just noticed that in panorama mode the blue bar is displayed as a button labelled "FILTERN". So a problem in portrait mode with certain display sizes? SGS7 ist not sooo small. ;-)

See screenshots:

[Neoaliphant]

So a problem in portrait mode with certain display sizes? SGS7 ist not sooo small. ;-)

the S7 is 8 years old, and only runs up to A8,  and has a tiny 5.1 inch screen, even with screen res of 1440 x 2560 pixels,
BUT
the viewport size is only 360x640.....you can see by how lare percentage of screen the keyboard takes up.....

might be worth reducing text size to see what the difference is
https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-to-adjust-the-font-size-and-style-on-your-galaxy-phone/

[Graf Geo]

@Neoaliphant: Locus Map requires Android 6.0 or higher. Therefore, an SGS7 should not be a problem and it is not.

[Graf Geo]

When I open a folder or subfolder, I can create points, record tracks and plan routes using the plus icon at the bottom left. For a new point, the opened folder is also specified as the storage location.
For a newly created route, however, the root folder. I then have to go through my folder structure to define the desired folder as the storage location. It would be more logical and practical if new tracks/routes could also be saved directly in the previously opened folder.

[Neoaliphant]

@Neoaliphant: Locus Map requires Android 6.0 or higher. Therefore, an SGS7 should not be a problem and it is not.

yes, LM needs A6, and SGS7 is A8, and obviously it runs,  but an app being able to install and run does not mean the app view correctly...


A DM99 smartwatch that has 2gb ram, A8 but a 2 inch screen will not view the menu correctly either even tho is A8...

it would be good if LM4 would display well on low res screens as I intend to get an android watch at some point....

[Menion]

A lot of feedback, thanks people.
Meanwhile, I've
- fix: crash at start on Android 11-
- chg: improved style of the folder item
- fix: crash at the new databases without data
- fix: bottom panel at the filter screen on smaller devices


Minimum screen size should be 800x600px. Smaller are not recommended. If something does not look ok on this resolution = bug.

"Folder item" in the screenshot. Better? A little unification with the rest of the UI ...

I'll publish RC10 tomorrow.

@Agus
there is no option to choose a separate folder for points and tracks. Choose only one and import all into this one folder!

@Graf Geo
good point with a pre-set folder for adding a new track. Hmm, I may really pre-select the current folder (for route planner) = but, if you cancel adding a new route, this folder remains preselected, so you lose the previously selected "last folder". Harder to explain to me, but let's try this and we will see ...

[Graf Geo]

Good morning Menion,

thanks for all that work.

Hmm, "folder items" now look a bit cluttered. Personally, I thought the tidy version was better before and I would be happy with my own icons. I would therefore continue to leave out the folder icon, even if it is now small.
On the other hand, this information (number of subfolders and tracks) was requested by others and can also be useful. Let's see what the impression is when RC10 is installed.

Filter panel on smaller devices: fine, I'm curious.

Selected last folder: you're right, I hadn't saved a route in RC9 before and that's why the root folder appeared. So maybe leave the previous behaviour.

Two more things that would be important from my point of view:

1. the folders/subfolders should also be sortable. Of course not mixed up, at the top the folders A-Z and below the tracks/points A-Z or whatever sorting criterion you choose.
2) I think this was requested many years ago: It would be nice if you could change the order of the items in the statistics panel. Elevation chart, best intervals etc.). If everything is already rearranged anyway...

[Menion]

Beta RC10 uploaded.

@Graf Geo
sorting of folders > we plan this for sure, just not yet implemented
order of "items in the statistics" > do you mean the detail of the single track? Hmm, this does not belong to this topic.

[freischneider]

The icons for the folder are now better. But you could make the icon a little bigger. But if necessary, I can put it there.
You don't actually need the small attached folder in the icon. Now there is an icon for subfolders. With that you can also see that it is a folder. Now it would be displayed twice.
I think the display of contained tracks or subfolders is good. The only thing I don't quite understand is the icon for contained tracks or points. The lower one is for tracks but the upper one shows a full folder, there should be an icon for points ?

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[Graf Geo]

RC10 updated.

• The search now includes folders - Fantastic! But folders are only found using letters, not numbers. For example, I have a folder called "2024 Bayern". Searching for "bay" finds it, searching for "2024" does not. Only tracks are found.
• Folder icons are better this way.
• Filter icon on small devices: Better, but the blue button is is too narrow and only shows "FILT" instead of "FILTER". See screenhot 1. No problem, the S7 is not my main device.

Question: In your announcement screenshot from last night you can see icons of subfolders and the tracks they contain. freischneider also mentions them ("contained tracks or subfolders"). They don't appear for me (which I actually like). Although I have subfolders. Is this again an individual display problem on my old test device (SGS7) or have they been programmed out again?
EDIT: Now I have them. Full style must be activated. It's great that you can show or hide them as you wish! 

[Tapio]

Folders. Hmmm, this could be, in slim view, all centered  in one line resulting in more visible folders. Now this looks weird and wastes space.

Filters do nothing for me.

[Graf Geo]

@Tapio: Then there would be problems with slightly longer folder names and/or smaller displays, and line breaks would occur more quickly. Which also requires space. So I would prefer to leave it as it is: