Locus Map 4, discussion (alpha)

Started by Menion, December 06, 2019, 14:57:45

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Menion

@balloni55
thanks for the info about the "show on map" button in logs > fixed.

@freischneider
hmm good tip with cache sizes, thanks. To keep it actual, I've rather added a link to this geocaching manual to the dialog toolbar. Seems also that the app has a "huge" size that is not official. It is no longer valid so it should be removed from the app?

Different closing of screens: I'll look at it, thanks!

@Andrew Heard
menu > they can be dragged as @tapio correctly wrote, but be aware that it is not perfect 100% reliable and usually you first have to move up/down .. weird problem, still for an unknown reason to me.

Sync problems: ah  :-X ... discussed over email, thanks

@jonny.blue
issue in sync detected on our server. Should work correctly now.

@tapio
page mentioned by @freischneider is mainly for manual checking of updates. The semi-automatic download should be done in the route planner when you plan over areas where are missing routing data. Then app, after your confirmation, starts download in the background. .. ah @zossebart exactly this described below ... thanks, so I just confirm it :)
Only what is currently missing from my point of view, is some automatic check for updates.

"grass_paver" really belongs to the "grass" category. Not sure if this particular tag was already discussed ... I'm open for "votes".
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john_percy

Grass paver = paved ✓ (my vote)
Although it looks like grass it is hard and not muddy.

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freischneider

Grass paver = paved ✓ (my vote)
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freischneider

Question by @Menion: Remove cache size
I rarely geocaching and have only been for a few years. Maybe there were these times and there are still some on the way.
What does the specialist @ Balloni55 say?
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Viajero Perdido

#784
Cache size ... what?  (I only skim this discussion, but this caught my eye.  Haven't actually looked at LM4 in months, sorry.)

When doing guidance to a cache with LM3, I really wish the panel showed the cache size somewhere.  I hate having to tap and waaait to load the full details to find out that detail.  Also, D/T are poorly readable, blue on dark grey.  Need my glasses to make sense of those.

Also, it must be a hundred times I've tapped the guidance arrow, hoping to get the full-screen arrow, but instead having to waaait and get the full details instead, which I didn't want.  That's misleading UI.  My brain stem sees a small arrow and wants a big arrow, so it taps the small arrow.  Wrong.

And is there any way for a tap on the compass icon (above the arrow I keep tapping by mistake) to go directly to the large guidance arrow (very useful) instead of always to the satellite screen (barely useful)?  Many times when trying to swipe away from the satellite screen with my thumb (other hand busy), I accidentally turn off "getting location", and swear.

These are all usability glitches with LM3, and here's your opportunity...  Thanks for listening.
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Menion

The current surface setup is already published here: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=6817.msg60970#msg60970

The "Paved" category does not exist, but what about placing grass_paver into STONES and basic grass into GROUND. This allows to remove "grass" and simplify structure a little bit.

@Viajero Perdido
screen with cache is not smaller and directly visible on the map screen. So it is not a "tap and waits... waits ... ah finally" as in LM Pro. I'm trying to make this screen lighter > faster. Try it and you will see.

About other suggestions ... really better firstly try current version to work with fresh state ;).
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balloni55

regarding "cache sizes"
- a blue bar with a number is incomprehensible
- a pictogram like in LMP is standard at groundspeak
- the description of the geocache size with volume indication in brackets as suggested by @freischneider would be generally understandable
just my two cents ;)
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balloni55

@menion
#746, since then i can´t use LMP
when can i expect an update from LMP?

@ Viajero Perdido
please use LM4 when caching, especially on multi with multiple waypoints and report if you are happy with the switching between listing and waypoints. Thanks
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Menion

Thanks balloni.
About cache size: the question was mainly f existed something like "huge" size because on the Groundspeak web, no such size exists.

#746 ... unfortunately you have to fix this on your own. Just open problematic cache in LM4, change something, and save it again. Problem is that point saved with the problematic version, can't be loaded in LM Pro, but after save with the new LM4 it is correctly backward-compatible. Or if there are more points like this, I may do this on my side if you send me DB (by simply re-saving all points in DB over app).
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Menion

This is Willy more for a separate topic, so if no problem, I'll split it into the same "Locus Map (4+)" folder.

Generally, there should not be any bigger differences in the navigation system of LM4. Most changes are currently related to added functionality, not internal algorithms/logic.
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balloni55

QuoteOr if there are more points like this, I may do this on my side if you send me DB
thanks
db just send ;)
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freischneider

For my needs: I would mainly like to differentiate between asphalt, gravel, nature path (ground).
Ground: Ground, Grass, Dirt, clay, earth, mud (possibly also sand)
Gravel: like since then
Asphalt: like since then

Possibly concrete to asphalt. has the same characteristics. Designation: Asphalt / Concrete

I would add grass paver to Stones.

So we would have a better overview and not as many categories. We should only differentiate where it makes sense. Example: I walk on concrete exactly as I walk on asphalt, it doesn't make any difference when cycling.

Furthermore, it would be nice to have a translation for the surfaces and path types. Some of them I have to look again and again because I can't remember the English words.
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Menion

New version MapGooglePlay_3.49.1.8_976_beta just uploaded.

There is quite a long list of changes, as usually after the app start. Petr and Radim will probably create a separate topic related to online LoPoins and new online LoMaps, so if anyway, one will have feedback on this topic, please wait for the mentioned separate topic.

Thanks and wish you a nice weekend!
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Andrew Heard

#793
3.49.1.8_976_beta:

  • main menu > Map Themes - hidden because main menu is not closed
  • where is this "Tasks" button in the route planner? Not evident in my screen cap, or do you mean the Route menu?
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Menion

@Andrew Heard
- map themes not hiding the main menu > thanks, fixed (also for few more screens like "Quick settings", ...)
- "Tasks" button > I mean by this a screen with active progress, news etc. It is mainly useful here in case, you use an internal BRouter and the app offers download of missing routing files. It takes some time and with this button visible, you may check progress while still working in the route planner.
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