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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #90 on: August 28, 2019, 13:06:21 »
Note on Automatic preset in navigation settings.
Setting "Preferences" for sporting activity seems to me illogical. Personally, I think it would be better to assign a routing profile in the "preset" settings. I could create separate presets for mountain, trekking or road bike. Each preference would then include complete settings such as map type, map theme, dashboard, and routing profile.
I find the Automatic Preset offer confusing and I do not understand its use yet. If this is a way of simplifying, then it would be more logical to be able to display a flat screen with "Preferences" when you start Locus and then select what action I want to do with one press.

CZ: Poznámka k Automatic preset v nastavení navigace.
Nastavení "Předvolby" ke sportovní aktivitě mi přijde nelogické. Osobně si myslím, že by bylo správnější přiřadit routovací profil v nastavení "předvolby". Mohl bych si tak vytvořit samostatné předvolby pro horské, trekingové či silniční kolo. Každá předvolba by pak obsahovala kompletní nastavení jako typ mapy, mapové téma, dashboard a routovací profil.
Nabídka Automatic preset mi přijde jako matoucí a její využití zatím nechápu. Pokud má jít o způsob zjednodušení, pak by bylo logičtější mít možnost zobrazit po spuštění Locusu rovnou obrazovku s "Předvolbami" a jedním stiskem pak zvolit jakou činnost chci provozovat.
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #91 on: August 28, 2019, 13:42:47 »
Thanks for the feedback.
Your solution has a problem we try to solve. Your solution requires to open "Presets" screen, activate preset and then start navigation (which is already possible now).

What I tried to simplify with this system is to completely automatically activate a bunch of settings (preset) when you start a certain type of activity. And also, automatically reverse settings back to the state before navigation, once navigation is terminated.

Practical solution: at home, I do not want centering, rotation and map shift, but I want this during navigation. So I create a preset with these settings. With old version, I always had to manually enable preset and then start navigation. Now, this may be done automatically. Also in the previous version I had to create one more preset with default settings which I've activated after navigation stops. This is also no longer needed as this task is made auto-magically.

Does it make sense?
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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #92 on: August 28, 2019, 14:28:55 »
I guess now I understand.
I have an idea for two variations, but maybe it would like to think through them.
Option 1:
Add option to select routing profile to "Preferences". On the "Navigate to" screen, then add a new "Preferences" tab. This would offer the option of selecting a preset preset instead of a routing profile. Pressing the preset button would then simultaneously select the routing profile and reset Locus to the required form.
Or Option 2:
Create separate customizable "temporary preferences" for the scheduling screen only. These would only be applied in the route planner and would have a limited validity only during the planning period. After completing the scheduling, the settings would revert back to their original form.

Version 2 would probably be more logical for new users.

CZ:
Nyní už to asi chápu.
Měl bych nápad na dvě varianty, ale možná by to chtělo je pořadně promyslet.
Varianta 1:
Přidat možnost výběru routovacího profilu do "Předvolby". Na obrazovce "Navigovat do" pak přidat novou kartu "Výběr Předvolby". Ta by nabídla možnost výběru přednastavené předvoby místo routovacího profilu. Stiskem tlačítka předvolby by se pak vybral současně routovací profil a přenastavil Locus do potřebné podoby.
Nebo varianta 2:
Vytvořit samostatné nastavitelné "dočasné Předvolby" jen pro plánovací obrazovku. Ty by se aplikovaly až v plánovači trasy a měly by omezenou platnost jen po dobu plánování. Po ukončení plánování by se nastavení vrátilo nazpět do původní podoby.

Verze 2 by byla asi logičtější i pro nové uživatele.
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #93 on: August 29, 2019, 09:05:39 »
Hi Menione,
I was wondering what to try to assign Preferences directly to routing profiles - see picture. If the profile had a Preset assigned, it would reset Locus. If not, nothing would change. I assume that for every activity such as bike, road bike, hiking or running, it uses each separate routing profile.

Ahoj Menione,
ještě ma napadlo, co zkusit Předvolby přiřadit přímo routovacím profilům - viz obrázek. Pokud by profil měl Předvolbu přiřazenou, pak by přenastavil Locus. Pokud ne, nic by se neměnilo. Předpokládánám, že pro každou činnost jako bike, silniční kolo, turistika nebo běh používá každý samostatný routovací profil.
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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #94 on: August 29, 2019, 12:58:07 »
Just want to say that applying presets to routing preferences, and resetting afterwards, is a stroke of genius. It's suddenly made presets really useful. Well done.

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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #95 on: September 02, 2019, 21:06:09 »
In the latest beta the first line of each of my dashboards is displayed over the top of the top panel buttons. In pro the first line is displayed below the top panel. I don't know whether to add a blank line to each dashboard. Is this an intended change?
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2019, 10:40:26 »
Just want to say that applying presets to routing preferences, and resetting afterwards, is a stroke of genius. It's suddenly made presets really useful. Well done.

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I just wish it was possible to choose map in presets and not only the theme ........
 
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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2019, 15:40:45 »
@Žajdlík Josef
Variations for Presets
1. I would really like to stay with the current car/bike/walk selection and not the selection from presets. Sounds more logical.
2. Do you want to apply temporarily preset in Route planner? Why, what is benefit from this?
3. Preset per routing type: we were thinking about it, but in the end, simplicity won.

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@Andrew Heard
whole "main screen" gets huge background redesign. It should be faster (not all notice this) and as a bonus, it brings some new bugs. I'll look at it, thanks.
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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #98 on: September 03, 2019, 16:18:39 »
Understood @menion. It's a beta. No worries. Also notice that navigation voice is 2x faster than in Pro, and during navigation any track being recorded is not displayed. Pro is fine.
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2019, 16:42:25 »
An hour into a walk, Locus beta screen went blank (white) with OAM Great Britain MF4 map, while Lomap England displayed OK. Restarting the phone did not help but cycling through different themes solved it later. Not reproduceable of course

 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #100 on: September 04, 2019, 16:52:50 »
An update to my last post- any track being recorded is not displayed, whether or not navigation is enabled.
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #101 on: September 04, 2019, 17:47:25 »
An update to my last post, too.
Starting the latest beta with OAM MF4 Great Britain and Voluntary MF theme gave me a pure white map. After cycling through themes it displayed correctly.


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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #102 on: September 04, 2019, 19:19:42 »
An update to my last post- any track being recorded is not displayed, whether or not navigation is enabled.
Hello Andrew
please verify each of your recording profiles/Style on map >Track recording line style
i had identically problem #73, reason: no line style was set to some profiles
 but according to menion's answer #79, the problem should be solved in the meantime.
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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #103 on: September 04, 2019, 21:08:57 »
Hello, I've published 3.39.4.2 version with many less or more smaller fixes.

Mentioned two problems anyway most probably still be there.

@Andrew Heard or @balloni55 , does anyone of you have a backup of settings with these incorrectly defined styles for old profiles? Thanks

@john_percy
it should be repeatable on my phone, I'll try it, thanks
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Re: [APP] - version 3.39.+ ( 25. 7. 2019 )
« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2019, 04:18:56 »
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"Rockies": enjoy it and send us some photo from the field tests, so we have some kind of "nonworking" post here :)

Since you asked, how can I resist?  :)

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