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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #105 on: April 21, 2016, 22:46:31 »
Hello,
- selection of languages is currently in detail of vector map (map manager > offline > selected map three dot menu > information

- version of theme is defined in first tag of theme XML file. Check "version=" value. Should be 4. And it is possible that MapsForge 0.5+ loads also older themes, but I need to keep it seperate, so as I wrote already few times - V4 maps + V4 themes. Thanks for understanding.
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #106 on: April 23, 2016, 13:21:53 »
V 3.16.2.7 report from my first tests with multilingual V4 maps,
i use germany and swiss map with rendertheme-v4

- map icon im "Maps" is V2, but map is V4


- in ZL´s < 10 loading map is very slow
- POI icons, no popup label, not clickable ?!
- on first zoom to ZL 17 all POI icons are well displayed, zoom in or out and back to ZL 17 some icons are cut.


- autoloading map didn´t work
- in the area of country border color of lake is white and not blue e.g. Bodensee/Lake Constance or Genfer See
- name of lake isn´t displayed


- multilingual town names
e.g.
en/de/fr/es > Konstanz/Konstanz/Constance/Constanca visible ZL14-ZL22
en/de/fr/es > Munich/München/Munich/Múnich visible ZL6-ZL9 always, ZL11+12 brocken word

Question:
what should multilingual map display? - names of towns, POI´s ??
« Last Edit: April 23, 2016, 20:14:30 by gynta »
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #107 on: April 23, 2016, 15:27:01 »
Hi balloni55,

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- autoloading map didn´t work

In this topic, I found in reply #122:
Quote from: Menion
- current unmodified version of MapsForge library (currently version 0.6, maps V4) that will work only with map themes version 4, no autoloading, no POI Db
So if I  understand Menion right he is using an original MapsForge library for the "new" V4 maps and themes and this library does not offer an autoloading feature of the maps by default.

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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #108 on: April 24, 2016, 08:59:01 »
Just checked: the Elevate 3 themes I have installed are V4 since Sept. last year. So they should be available in any case, right ?
Locus versions of Elevate 3 are version=1 and locus-extended=1 (see <rendertheme> tag). They can only be used with Locus 0.3 mapsforge fork . Standard versions of Elevate 3 are version=4, only those can be used with ML maps.

- in the area of country border color of lake is white and not blue e.g. Bodensee/Lake Constance or Genfer See
- name of lake isn´t displayed
The lake isn't probably completely contained in the maps (as country borders cut it), and if a border of an area isn't closed, it's not treated by the rendering engine as as an area - so no color and no names.

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what should multilingual map display? - names of towns, POI´s ??

Every OSM name tag which has not just "name=*" (local name), but also "name:XX=*" can be seen, see here.
E.g. "name=München" has "name:EN=Munich", so if you choose standard language, "München" is displayed, if you choose english, "Munich" is displayed. For every name that has no "name:EN=*", the standard/local name is displayed.
It's not limited to towns, but this is the most likely usage.
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #109 on: April 25, 2016, 13:20:30 »
Hello Tobias
thanks for your answer and explanation
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and if a border of an area isn't closed, it's not treated by the rendering engine as as an area - so no color and no names.
ok understand, but.....
e.g. area of North Sea and Baltic Sea are blue, where is there the border for rendering?


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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #110 on: April 25, 2016, 20:45:36 »
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and if a border of an area isn't closed, it's not treated by the rendering engine as as an area - so no color and no names.
ok understand, but.....
e.g. area of North Sea and Baltic Sea are blue, where is there the border for rendering?
That's a bit OT: If there is a sea/coast in a map, sea is treated differently - it's rendered below the land area as blue rectangle (that's the border for rendering), then the land area is rendered according to coastline/map boarders on top of sea. On the land area, everything else is is rendered, like lakes etc. Usually the sea and land areas are prepared once for proper rendering and are not updated anymore from current OSM data.
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #111 on: April 25, 2016, 20:54:08 »
Thanks Tobias for a precise answers!

Hope all is clear now. Balloni and others: what is currently in Locus is full MapsForge 0.6 library that is automatically used for all V4 maps. Because I need strictly distinct what will be used with internal modified library and what with this new, it's really required to use V4 maps and V4 themes. This won't change soon, but I do not think it's a big problem as it's just a number in header.

Some extra features of MapsForge 0.6+ are currently not planned. Poor performance is not a problem in Locus I believe. I've compared rendering of V4 maps in Orux and they are quite same ... and quite slower that modified lib.
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #112 on: April 29, 2016, 17:15:36 »
Hello guys,

wish you nice weekend and do not forget to give a try to new Beta version 3.16.2.9 (just published) ;).
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #113 on: April 30, 2016, 00:49:37 »
@menion - are you sure 3.16.2.9 was "published"? Not showing on Locus store.
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #114 on: April 30, 2016, 00:50:40 »
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #115 on: April 30, 2016, 05:19:50 »
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new Beta version 3.16.2.9 (just published)
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #116 on: April 30, 2016, 06:19:56 »
Hmm interesting. Truth is, that I woke up by accident after midnight and noticed this message Andrew & Micheal, thanks for it, so I've published it correctly a lot later (forget to press "publish" before. Did some test and then leave on a cup of tea :) ), but now it should be there!
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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #117 on: April 30, 2016, 07:16:37 »
Hmm interesting. Truth is, that I woke up by accident after midnight and noticed this message Andrew & Micheal, thanks for it, so I've published it correctly a lot later (forget to press "publish" before. Did some test and then leave on a cup of tea :) ), but now it should be there!

Confirmed. Thank you. Enjoy the weekend, Menion.
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #118 on: April 30, 2016, 07:42:12 »
Testing ...
Color mode is cute :-)
Menu titles should be changed, though:
   Map shading -> Map shading and color
   Map color mode -> Map contrast mode
Also not perfect, but nearer to what Locus does, I suppose
 

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Re: [APP] - version 3.16.x (14. 3. 2016+)
« Reply #119 on: April 30, 2016, 07:45:48 »
Testing ...
Color mode is cute :-)
Menu titles should be changed, though:
   Map shading -> Map shading and color
   Map color mode -> Map contrast mode
Also not perfect, but nearer to what Locus does, I suppose

It works a bit like an overlay, in fact Color mode is XOR overlay. Hence it should be doable to inherit the opaque mechanics from overlays, as colors can be pretty brutal and hiding other information.