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No .tcx file support Locus ?
« on: September 23, 2014, 10:21:24 »
No .tcx file Import. Export .tcx file. Not compatible with Garmin Gps.
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 10:36:21 »
No big interest in TCX - http://help.locusmap.eu/search/TCX

... means, no TCX import, sorry.
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 11:06:32 »
ah I thought that export do not work just in one Android app, but it do not work at all? Are you familiar with this file format so you are able to say where is issue? I'll check it and fix, because export should work without problems, there is no reason why not.
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 12:37:24 »
http://www8.garmin.com/xmlschemas/TrainingCenterDatabasev2.xsd

Garmin        <=>      Locus
tcx files.         <=>    gpx files.
Coursepoint  <=>    Waypoint (wpt)
<PointType>   <=>    <sym>
<Name>         <=>    <name>
<Notes>         <=>    <cmt>
 
Single Coursepoint attached to a Single trackpoint. Corresponding in Position and timestamp.
<PointType> tag (english).
<Name> tag (local language ok):  Text limit max. 10 characters.
<Notes> tag (local language ok):  Text with detailled Guiding info.

Garmin <PointType> .tcx
"Generic", "Summit", "Valley", "Water", "Food", "Danger", "Left", "Right", "Straight", "First Aid",
 "4th Category", "3rd Category", "2nd Category", "1st Category", "Hors Category", "Sprint"

Locus <sym> .gpx
"Flag","Summit","Dropoff","Drinking Water", "Restaurant", "Danger Area", "Left", "Right", "Straight", "Medical Facility","Number 4, Red", "Number 3, Red", "Number 2, Red", "Number 1, Red", "Number 0, Red", "Civil"


- In attachment a tcx example file containing all 16 Garmin Coursepoints.
- In attachment a gpx example file and the corresponding 16 Locus Waypoints.

Locus displays (imported) tcx <PointType> by the corresponding gpx <sym>
Locus converts (imported) tcx <PoinType> at gpx export by the corresponding gpx <sym>
Locus converts (98)Locus and (266)Garmin gpx <sym> at tcx export by <PointType> Generic(Flag) except L/R/S

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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 10:39:00 »
I don't like half-working features. Thanks a lot for testing. I'll improve it to next version ...
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 13:26:34 »
Hello 0709,

thanks for a precise description. Unfortunately you description is too complex on me :).

TCX support is not one of most wanted features, so I don't want to spend too much time on it now. Anyway what exists, should work as expected. So what remain a problem now? That TCX file exported from Locus is not correctly (with CoursePoints) imported to any app like BaseCamp?
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2014, 08:57:41 »
Thank you, I think this will work. I'm just working on improving export and everything is clear.

Anyway I just get an idea when I read your PDF "arbitrary sounds". You often talk about morse codes, but these may be already working for a navigation! Do you know TomTom voices that may be also used for a navigation? On our Locus Store is one for a Czech Republic (unfortunately we were not able to find more free voices till now). It's a simple zip file with MP3 files. When anyway create same file, but just instead MP3 with "Turn right", will be there morse code, it will work. Hmm? :)

So it depend if is possible to find or create MP3 files with required morse codes. This won't work for Guiding, just for navigation for now.
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2014, 09:41:53 »
Hi,

unfortunately this is not a possible now. Locus only use some predefined orders as you wrote, like left, right etc. Custom navigation orders cannot be set now, sorry.
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2014, 06:47:31 »
Technically possible is almost everything. Anyway if I may really suggest, I think that you should pick one most important feature you also think that others may need and focus on it. Because I have two small problems

1. there is a lot of topic from you (or topics you vote for) focused on similar tasks (navigation/guiding during bike ride), and I'm little bit lost what is important and what isn't and amount of votes is quite similar in all of them (2 - 5)

2. I personally do not need these features because as Joeloc often say, I ride on in very flat country and basic navogation/guiding is quite enough for me. So it's little bit complicated to decide what to do and how to do it.

And once this task will be done, you may focus on another. Just a suggestion.
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2014, 13:05:58 »
Oki,

PM is really not necessary, thanks. I'll keep focus to this one idea - http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/automatic-display-activation-guiding-with-display-and-sounds . 11 votes isn't much, but I'll check it after release, what I can do with this. Once this idea will be "completed", we can move to another task :)
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2015, 22:05:24 »
+10 :)

This would be an awesome addition for cyclists if you could navigate this way
I'm trying to find something like this for ages
Very valuable and innovative in my eyes (just think about bike messengers)

I think a simple search for: "No big interest in TCX - http://help.locusmap.eu/search/TCX" is not very fair - most of my biker friends would adore such a feature but have no idea how to technically get there (TCX), so they won't come up with such questions.
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2015, 16:01:01 »
Hi, thanks. Names (limited to 15/10 characters) and time in seconds, fixed.
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2015, 21:01:38 »
Thank you!

- "intensity" added
- correct order of "name" fixed
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2016, 09:33:01 »
A tcx "clone" by gpx

Navigation by timestamped tcx course/gpx track with associated coursepoints/waypoints.

Supported Navigation Orders:

tcx course-associated coursepoints <PointType>:
Left - Right - Straight.

gpx track-associated waypoints <sym>:
Left - Right - Straight - Left_slight - Left_sharp - Right_slight - Right_sharp - U-turn and more.

Navigation Sound Locus.
tcx course associated-coursepoints:
[EN]<PointType> Supported Navigation Orders: => Via "xx.tts" to local language TTS, or Voices.
Any other <PointType>: <Name> to TTS. Resulting in: <Name> after xx meter.  (example: <PointType>Generic)
gpx track-associated waypoints:
[EN]<sym> Supported Navigation Orders: => Via "xx.tts" to local language TTS, or Voices.
Any other <sym>: <name> to TTS. Resulting in: <name> after xx meter. (example: <sym>Flag)

Navigation Display text in Locus map top panel:
tcx course-associated coursepoints:
<Notes> if available, otherwise <Name>
gpx track-associated waypoints:
<cmt> if available, otherwise <name>

File source(s): Generate (convert) to trk_navwpt gpx file by Locus.
Produce a design by Locus_Brouter or Locus_GraphHopper routeplanner.
@ export select gpx 1.0 output. (= Without the Locus extensions)


In attachment:
Example strict navigation file by gpx 1.0 (no extension).
G_stwg_trk_navwpt_cmt.gpx

Both tcx and gpx clone use track_waypoint association by position AND timestamp.
A less robust gpx variant is by track_waypoint position association only.
A strictly ordered waypoint list is necessary !


Examples in the attachments. (Register and login into the forum !)
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Re: No .tcx file support Locus ?
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2016, 10:16:12 »
Thank you for powerful navigation software.

I want some feature which can display icon(s) of TCX on Navigation Screen.

1)  RED Circle
For now,
Icon such as LEFT, RIGHT, STRAIGHT is displayed, but most of other icons such as Generic, Summit, Valley, Water, Food etc is NOT displayed.
I want these icons will be displayed on Navigation Screen.

2) BLUE Circle
Just like other navigation for car,
I want the icon + distance after current icon(red circle) is displayed somewhere on screen (e.g. right side of current icon position)
It helps for user to prepare the next situaiton.

I hope these two features will be implemented.

Thank you very much.



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