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#11
[DE] - deutschsprachiger Forumsbereich / Re: Deutsche Übersetzung von L...
Last post by olliz - June 20, 2025, 20:42:33Wenn LM nur folge dem Straßenverlauf sagen würde .... stattdessen wird auf einem Weg OHNE Abzweigung, nur weil da eine leichte Kurve ist, in 100 meter links.... in 60 meter links.... jetzt links..
Das ist nicht nur extrem nervend sonder auch imho absolt unnötig! Wo bitte soll ich hinfahren - ins Feld oder gegen die Wand/Zaun... in den Graben ?!
Ich würde ja noch einsehen wenn bei einer Abfahrt mit Serpentinen eine Warnung vor engen Kurven links/rechts kommt, aber dann schweigt sich LM aus...
Das ist nicht nur extrem nervend sonder auch imho absolt unnötig! Wo bitte soll ich hinfahren - ins Feld oder gegen die Wand/Zaun... in den Graben ?!
Ich würde ja noch einsehen wenn bei einer Abfahrt mit Serpentinen eine Warnung vor engen Kurven links/rechts kommt, aber dann schweigt sich LM aus...
#12
Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.30.+ ( 6...
Last post by Tapio - June 20, 2025, 20:23:30Quote from: freischneider on June 20, 2025, 10:14:15And thanks to the online poi we are always much more up to date than oamI think we don't know when/how often ASAMM updates the database.
@Menion, if search is set to Offline Places, it requires 3 actions to leave the search, not ideal. I understand where it's coming from historically, but maybe you can react differently depending from where the search has been initiated.
https://youtu.be/ecqan5ymkrg?si=s-y6kCN-gPGJUjQ3
#13
Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.30.+ ( 6...
Last post by Menion - June 20, 2025, 14:03:28@Graf Geo
click on "pointer" > thanks. Issue is that there are two pointers at once, not by intent. I'm looking at it.
missing names of shaping points > weird. Data are taken from the offline address database (part of LoMaps). Have you downloaded the latest LoMap? Which region? ... ah now I see your second post. Yes, all three files are necessary now.
@T-mo
complicated topic. Firstly, I believe that the best place where the community may invest time is OpenStreetMap itself. Then the whole world benefits.
Anyway, I still do not see a problem. The existing V1 solution ("Other POIs") exists and will exist in the future. For OAM and other communities is no need to switch to a different system. If you are interested, simply check the database structure and compare V1 and V2 files and you will see a big difference.
What are the major problems you see in the latest 4.30 version?
- not clearly visible active highlighted point > confirm, I will have to do something with it
- 6 seconds delay when loading a point? Online request is in worst case around 500ms, local offline max. 200ms. So maybe a problem with the internet connection?
- and among these two issues?
click on "pointer" > thanks. Issue is that there are two pointers at once, not by intent. I'm looking at it.
missing names of shaping points > weird. Data are taken from the offline address database (part of LoMaps). Have you downloaded the latest LoMap? Which region? ... ah now I see your second post. Yes, all three files are necessary now.
@T-mo
complicated topic. Firstly, I believe that the best place where the community may invest time is OpenStreetMap itself. Then the whole world benefits.
Anyway, I still do not see a problem. The existing V1 solution ("Other POIs") exists and will exist in the future. For OAM and other communities is no need to switch to a different system. If you are interested, simply check the database structure and compare V1 and V2 files and you will see a big difference.
What are the major problems you see in the latest 4.30 version?
- not clearly visible active highlighted point > confirm, I will have to do something with it
- 6 seconds delay when loading a point? Online request is in worst case around 500ms, local offline max. 200ms. So maybe a problem with the internet connection?
- and among these two issues?
#14
Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.30.+ ( 6...
Last post by freischneider - June 20, 2025, 10:14:15OAM POIs come from the same source as LoPoi. Why would anyone use the OAM ?
And thanks to the online poi we are always much more up to date than oam
I have nothing against documentation, but the effort should be kept to a minimum. There are much more important things to do.
And thanks to the online poi we are always much more up to date than oam
I have nothing against documentation, but the effort should be kept to a minimum. There are much more important things to do.
#15
Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.30.+ ( 6...
Last post by T-mo - June 20, 2025, 09:41:25reg. https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=9260.msg79024#msg79024
well it's a db and therefore not more complicated as it is by itself.
No doubt it makes sense to unite online and offline if different and grown structures have been in use.
It also makes sense to use a consistent structure if data of different sources get used, parsed, loaded, combined, and processed, and shown in a consistent way. If the community and userbase will bring additional content, like e.g. it is with Komoot, the more important this is, sure.
Well, noone expects a full db-documentation, plain information can be dropped at a dedicated github-page without big efforts as you know.
Even the same GUI-part, category-filter, mechanism could generally be used, though be separated to distinguish and better identify problems due to external database-files (offline), just in case. And back-loading of those can also generally be disabled to never bring those online, if building a LM-driven database is the goal.
I personally tried the old but now preserved LoPoint-part from time to time but decided not to use it consistently as it never was a satisfying experience, category ui in early design-state, poi loading awkward, search pois puh.., poi difficult to distinguish from the background, too small size and too small frame and no features like temporary switch map to bw, etc. It was a start.
Well, I suggest to rethink your view and to support with informations about the changed db-structure, consider 3rd-party sources like e.g. OAM, in my opinion this might better preserve community support and bring a better and more satisfying Locus-experience at all.
Quote from: Menion@T-mo
New LoPoints > I believe the profit of the change is quite big. No difference in online/offline work. A lot richer content of POIs, full compatibility of offline and online, better placement on the map and for use - very easy to modify both worlds at once.
Db documentation and support for 3rd parties > no, not planned and definitely not recommended. New system is a lot more complicated than the previous and we need to keep compatibility with the online and iOS world. That's why "Other POIs" will exist and will still be well supported.
well it's a db and therefore not more complicated as it is by itself.
No doubt it makes sense to unite online and offline if different and grown structures have been in use.
It also makes sense to use a consistent structure if data of different sources get used, parsed, loaded, combined, and processed, and shown in a consistent way. If the community and userbase will bring additional content, like e.g. it is with Komoot, the more important this is, sure.
Well, noone expects a full db-documentation, plain information can be dropped at a dedicated github-page without big efforts as you know.
Even the same GUI-part, category-filter, mechanism could generally be used, though be separated to distinguish and better identify problems due to external database-files (offline), just in case. And back-loading of those can also generally be disabled to never bring those online, if building a LM-driven database is the goal.
I personally tried the old but now preserved LoPoint-part from time to time but decided not to use it consistently as it never was a satisfying experience, category ui in early design-state, poi loading awkward, search pois puh.., poi difficult to distinguish from the background, too small size and too small frame and no features like temporary switch map to bw, etc. It was a start.
Well, I suggest to rethink your view and to support with informations about the changed db-structure, consider 3rd-party sources like e.g. OAM, in my opinion this might better preserve community support and bring a better and more satisfying Locus-experience at all.
#16
Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.30.+ ( 6...
Last post by Graf Geo - June 19, 2025, 23:29:02Quote from: Graf Geo on June 19, 2025, 16:24:25I don't know if it's because of the new version or the latest LoMaps update. In any case, street names are no longer assigned to shaping points in the route planner, and when saving the route, the title is no longer entered ("Untitled").
Okay, that's sorted. A few days ago, I updated all my LoMaps using the new mass update function. Since then, the addresses/street names had disappeared.
Now I've downloaded all the maps again individually and now I have three files per country/region: *osm.maps, *.osm.db and *poi2.db
I think the osm.db files were missing before.
In any case, the addresses are now back.
No idea what happened there.
#17
[DE] - deutschsprachiger Forumsbereich / Re: Gesamteindruck Locus
Last post by freischneider - June 19, 2025, 22:13:32 #18
[DE] - deutschsprachiger Forumsbereich / Re: Gesamteindruck Locus
Last post by ThomasD. - June 19, 2025, 21:17:28Quote from: freischneider on June 19, 2025, 17:50:50Mit den Ansagen habe ich so gelöst. Ist eventuell bereits in den Experten Einstellungen. Die waren früher alle in der confic.Da muss man sich einloggen...
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#19
[DE] - deutschsprachiger Forumsbereich / Re: Display aktivieren/deaktiv...
Last post by freischneider - June 19, 2025, 20:42:18Ich habe folgende Einstellungen. Aber ich habe keine Sperre Aktiviert. Ich hatte damit Probleme, da ich jedesmal das Passwort eingeben müsste. Irgendwie kann man es über Tasker wohl lösen.
#20
Other features / Re: Online search
Last post by Andrew Heard - June 19, 2025, 19:59:194.30: no discussion I recall that bottom online search results panel hides the zoom buttons?