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#16
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 17:47:30
Ah I see a discussion you might have referred to.

https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/brouter-car-mode-truly-hates-unpaved-roads

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#17
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 17:40:34


Quote from: poutnikl on July 29, 2020, 16:41:12
Check also if there is "hard refusion" of that unpaved road ( routing there at no circumstances ), or if there is only very high penalty.

In the latter case,BRouter would prefer even quite crazy  detour if possible. If you disable such options by nogo points, it would accept the unpaved road as a last resort.

I remember similar case for a Canadian car driver, as many Canadian roads are unpaved and the original car profiles have very high penalties for unpaved roads.
It was fixed for his case by lowering penalty ( for car-like  profiles by increasing the max speed value ).

BTW, I have told Arndt multiple times the car profiles penalizes unpaved roads too much, what makes them unusable for regions with many unpaved roads.

I remember creating an experimental motorbike profile, preferring more winding roads by negative turning penalty.

As I see multiple motorcycle related posts in BRouter mailgroup or Locus forum, I think they would deserve a dedicated profile author among motorbikers. ;-)

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I'm not familiar with the penalty settinings. Thank you I'll investigate.
I agree 100% about profile options. Even though so many prefer Brouter /  Locus as primary for offline Navigation they are having to resort to many other apps to create tracks. Some people then just stay with the other app rather than create tracks, convert, then load to Locus.

So what happened to your experimental motorcycle profile ? Sounds interesting


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#18
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 16:24:38
There is an option to avoid unpaved roads for profile settings.
We would be forever grateful if there was a " prefer unpaved roads " option

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#19
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 15:47:25
The bad part is even though I can " force " a route to continue by changing the profile, there will be times where it is not a through road.
Opposite side is I bypass roads that are actually accessable by motor vehicle

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#20
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 15:43:15
Interestingly in shortest profile it allows it to continue.
Offline using shortest - motorcar it does not.



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#21
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 15:35:54
It does allow routing to continue in bicycle profile but it would also do that offline.

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#22
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 15:21:46
I created a partial route using Brouter- Web. Wow that's fantastic I've never used that.
One of the roads in question still won't allow the route to continue in car mode. As you can see on the map it shows it as a trail ?
However it's not. It's a rather wide, smooth gravel road that is never gated and gets vehicle traffic often.

So the issue is in the mapping ?

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#23
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 14:50:00
Ok I'll check that out.
The roads in particular that I'm speaking of are roads I actually travel often. My concern is that if I cannot plan routes for roads I know are legal public roads for motor vehicles, then when planning a trip in an area I'm not familiar with I will not be able to efficiently plan a route.

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#24
Navigation & Guidance / Re: Route planning
July 29, 2020, 13:59:21
Any profile that is for a motorized vehicle has the issue. It's as if it's labeled the road as off limits to motor vehicles.


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#25
Navigation & Guidance / Route planning
July 29, 2020, 13:26:54
Often when the route includes an unpaved, yet public road I cannot continue creating the route unless I switch to a walking profile or draw manually.
The roads I'm experiencing trouble with are not private, not gated, not off road trails. They are always open public roads that just don't have asphalt on them. The odd thing is there can be two similar roads in the same area, both appear the same on the map yet one will allow the route to continue and one will not.
I've tried every different Brouter routing profile combination I could.
Is this a Brouter issue or Locus issue ?
I've tried mountain bike profile but then if there is a bike path through the woods it takes that as the shortest route.
My primary use for Locus is Adventure motorcycle riding. That type of riding includes finding as many unpaved roads as possible and planning a journey, whether it be around your area of around the world.
Locus is the most popular app among riders. I know Locus is highly used for bicycling and hiking but anything that could be added to help motorcyclist would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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#26
Ok fair enough :-)

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#27
Quote from: 0709 on April 01, 2020, 08:42:21
I myself am satisfied with the current Locus UI, do not see the usefulness of such a heavy UI change (inclusive a NEW Locus Manual), and therefore do not test it, but I sometimes follow the experiences here.
According to the screenshots, should I turn my phone upside down to put trusted Icons such as GPS and so on back in the top panel I have trusted for years? Don't see the use of mixing up all the buttons again? Is it just me? I know I am always a bit suspicious of fashion phenomena, so count on the old fashion to reappear after a few years. ;D ;D ;D
Agree 100% !!
Everything has been fine, a few necessary updates here and there but all was well.
I think rather than a new user learning Locus they want it changed to suit them personally. Their Garmin had this, or the other App had that. Well this is Locus. Learn it and enjoy. They are the squeaky wheel so they get the grease. Meanwhile no one else is complaining so their voice is unheard.
@Menion if it isn't broke don't fix it... Please !! And Please don't clutter up the screen with permanent buttons.
We've only got so much space to work with on the average size cell phone. I don't carry around a huge tablet or mount one to my handlebars.  Give people options but don't make the many that are satisfied have to conform with those that aren't.
Locus rocks !!

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#28
Quote from: Žajdlík Josef on March 30, 2020, 15:24:25
Hiding the record button could be associated with hiding the bottom panel.
I prefer everything hidden and made available with a double tap. I do like the blue tab to bring up map screen content. Maybe there is room within dynamic content for another option to be readily available. Using cell phones with +/- 5" screens doesn't leave a lot of room for navigation. The less blocking the map the better .

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#29


Quote from: Žajdlík Josef on March 30, 2020, 15:04:13
Quote from: menion on March 30, 2020, 08:52:20
@Žajdlík Josef
- permanently visible rec-button: hmm if, then only optionally
It would then be possible to completely cancel the record button in the side panel.

I would definitely prefer it to be optional. I have never had an issue starting or stopping recording and I use it often on motorcycles. Less permanent tabs on the map screen the better. A double tap on my screen brings up the side bar and there it is. Once activated there is a tab on the map screen to stop. Very easy.

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#30
Quote from: menion on March 26, 2020, 08:12:20
I think that Josef means by bookmark another TAB. So there should be a screen with three tabs: Recording, GPS, Compass, right?
I just a few days ago thought about separating GPS & Compass so you think exactly opposite :). More tabs > slower display of the screen. Sorry Josef, I'm really not a fan of this "merging" idea. From my point of view, it will really complicate my work and also explanation why these functions are merged and not some others.

@Andrew Heard
Nearest points > hmm this may be useful, agree. For now, it is possible to at least display them on the map ;)

Generate trip > mystery for me. I'll prepare some debug messages for you into the next version.

Swipe from left > I've noticed this as well, thanks for the reminder

Swipe from bottom > no idea :). Isn't it possible that under finger was shaping/via point so you dragged this point?
Agreed , no need to load it down or slow it down. Sometimes less really is more. Same with POI. I turn them on for the area as needed. I haven't missed one yet.

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