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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: May 03, 2019, 20:31:53 »

You talk about trackpoints, not sharp/via points, right.

I see you repeatedly use the term "sharp points", possibly because they are displayed as triangles, that are sharper then squared via points.

But AFAIK, Menion has coined for them the term "shaping points", giving to the route a particular shape between start/destination/viapoints., being e.g. a manual correction of the computed route between those points.

Just for completeness, they do not count as points in context of the point priority recalculation,  in contrary to the via points you "must visit".

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: May 01, 2019, 11:39:13 »

You think that using some "projected" point will work always? Imagine your situation. The route may after these 10 km turn sharp left or sharp right or even u-turn and in all these cases, projected point 3 km from "meeting point" should really not be what you want.

As I do not know what Locus passes to BRouter, I neither know how it is managed. I would just guess it would be treated as an ordinary short route.

I mean projecting along the route, not geometrically. So it would lead me to a route point 3 km forward from the closest point on the route.

If we consider both route and deviation segments of the same length,
and if the recalculation happens at km5, 3km off the route,
it would point me to the route km8, still 2km before route/deviation meeting point.

My whole idea was optimizing the track length, to return to the route in a relaxed way, as trade off between route following and passed distance. Sure, it would need testing.

Thanks for the tip, I forgot/never knew it is there.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: May 01, 2019, 08:38:45 »
I have thought notes about incoming improvement of route priority recalculation.

Lets imagine route priority autorecalculation , strict following off.

I go along 10 km deviation from the route, that goes in parallel to the planned route and then rejoins.

Both ways are equivalent in sense of routing preference and there are no shortcuts along the deviation.

As it is supposed to aim navigation recalculation toward closest route point, then after 5 km on deviation, it would point (generally) to 5 km point of the planned 10km segment.

Q1: Does it mean it would try to turn me back in first 5 km, as that way to the respective point on the route would be shorter ?

Q2: When recalculation aims me forward, with chosen closest route point, and I finally get on the route somewhere ahead, I guess it will be reasonable enough not going after that point. :-)

Additional note:
It may be good not to choose the closest route point, but project it ahead, along the route, depending on route deviation. (I guess something similar is applied for guidance, but not sure)

E.g., if I am 3 km off the route, it may project the route meeting point a x 3=3 km     
ahead of the closest point., if a=1.

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I guess many users are rather against paying transactions themselves than against paying itself.

Also, many people are against suspicious at subscription philosophy as seen at big SW players like Microsoft or Adobe, that tend to draw a lot of money per small amounts.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: April 23, 2019, 13:25:32 »

do you know any other application that sort data by the center of the map? At least Google Maps definitely do not do this. Locus is a little special here.

No, I am not aware of it.

But it  makes sense to me as a non default option, similarly as it makes sense in other places like a favourite creation or navigation point setting.

I am not sure if to have it deep in advanced settings is flexible, OTOH nonGPS sorting is less frequent that the other cases mentioned above.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: April 22, 2019, 09:59:15 »
Hmm "nearest" in sorting of tracks should really be nearest. Even a "map center" used in case of disabled GPS is little weird (most probably should be "last known GPS location").

I think "would be nearest" approach explicitly given by the map center is legitimate, no matter if GPS is on or off.

One is not always interested in things related to the current position.

If the map center and GPS position match, then OK, I want the nearest.

If they do not, or location is unknown, I  want to pretend the map center is my position.

Before the searching, I can always rematch the screen with GPS position by the button, or, as fallback, would be good to rematch it with the last known position.

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I would eliminate the free version. Locus 4 could be free (free to try) for new users for a maximum of the first week and then paid through the locus coins.
You can also give 1200 coins to those who have bought locus in the last year so as not to penalize them.

I suppose many users would be disappointed by absence of the free version.

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Při plánování trasy volá LM routovací službu, aby vytvořil úsek trasy mezi body, protože nemá svou vlastní. Ve Tvém případě online službu GraphHopper.
Doporučuji nastudovat, jak si pořídit offline službu BRouter nebo GraphHopper.

Nestojíš-li o generování úseků trasy, pak si přepni na ruční vytváření. To je potřeba použít i tehdy, vytváříš-li trasu memo cesty.

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Especially regarding custom BRouter scripts, not to be limited to the ones build in to LocusMap.

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I understand the decision, but I foresee a lot of discussion here with the user base.

Will be some advanced settings/features, available for free, but in LM Pro only, be part of the subscription ?

If yes, then many Pro users, who are not fans of subscription philosophy(for various reasons), will probably stay with the LM classic as long as possible.

Or, until the drawback of not developed application forces them to decide for the new Free or Subscribed LM (   or rather not OR...  :-). )

What about 2 level subscription, Pro and Pro Premium ? The former would be equivalent to LM Pro without premium features.

I can imagine the gap between the free and subscribed LM can be too big.

For some, the former may be too "crippled" and the latter with more features they need. Non premium lower subscription without finance hungry features would split the gap.

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Aha, pokrok ničím nezastavíš :-(
Tak, jak si plánuji trasy já. vítám maximum viditelnosti mapy na displeji telefonu.
Ten panel mi překrývá část mapy.
K čemu je ten panel dobrý? On si jej někdo přál?

No, ona ta mapa je i s panelem skoro 2x vyšší než širší, takže já to jak omezení nevidím.

Určitě si to někdo přál, a hodně uživatelů je rádo, že tam panel je, protože mohou při plánování průběžně sledovat celkovou statistiku a náročnost trasy.

Bohužel, hodně lidí dává přednost jiným věcem než konkrétní jednotlivec. :-)

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: March 20, 2019, 09:28:47 »
Where are the options for GPS filtering? I was not quite sure if the GPS filtering were in "GPS and sensors" before.
I thought it was in the hidden "expert menu". Maybe it now replaces the previous filtering setting in GPS and sensors > Altitude Manager > Altitude Filter?
I think the GPS position filtering has been moved from ( by default hidden ) expert menu in LocusMap Beta to GPS and sensors  menu. The altitude filtering in the GPS and Sensors/altitude manager  has its own independent filter.

[CZ&SK] - diskuze o Locusu / Re: Brouter offline?
« on: March 17, 2019, 04:35:22 »
To je hodně divné... Určitě je jako navigační service nastavený BRouter ?

V kterém okamžiku to protestuje ?
Kdy, se zadá druhý bod a on by měl spočítat segment trasy, nebo ještě dříve ?

Je BRouter nainstalovaný do interního úložiště?

Dělá to samé při přímé navigaci do cílového bodu ?

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Themes - Vector maps / Re: [Theme] HiLo hiking theme
« on: March 08, 2019, 17:48:39 »
I have downloaded this nice theme.
Unfortunately the theme is not selecteble with openandromaps.
when I switch to LM map the theme is selectable.

Is it possible to choose the theme, when I have switched to openandromap in lucus maps?

Best regards
It is not exact.
It IS selectable with OAM, but only with V3 map versions.
With V4-ML , only elevate/elements and Voluntary MapsForge/Velocity is selectable.(at least from those external  themes I have)

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Maps / Re: lomaps on Garmin device
« on: February 25, 2019, 20:39:14 »
Note that OSM maps relates to content, not format. It would be good to verify, what format of OSM maps the device supports.
Raster or vector maps.
If raster ones, it may not be OSM maps specific at all. For the format, the map origin does not matter.
If vector ones, which ones ?
One of the most used format is MapsForge compatible format . map, with content flavours of LoMaps or OpenAndroidMaps.
You can for free test and use the latter.

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