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#436
Tested a few minutes ago
Live tracking live from quick share no result on web page of locus live tracking

Normal live tracking immediately shows my position on website

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#437
Maybe I have lost some posts but I do not clearly understand the use of live tracking live in quick share.
If I enable it my position is shared on http://www.locusmap.eu/live-tracking/
But within locus I cannot share this link with friends to tell them that now I am online and they can follow me on the web page.
I do not also understand why there is the time limit for the one who not payed for the private version while the normal live tracking has not time limit.


#438
Quote from: menion on February 14, 2017, 19:54:08
@lor74cas : hmm oki, so they wont's all these nice features , but instead of try to use them, they rather install app they don't have them? :). Anyway I got the point and agree, that "few" things should be made more user-friendly while keeping same functionality.

@Josef : btw. your English is maybe better then mine, so I believe, translation to Czech is not needed, save your time ;). Undestand and partially agree. On second side, very complicated application may be a problematic to generate enough income for four people that currently on Locus Map works. So it needs to be some "compromise". Do not worry, I do not plan to make from Locus another mapy.cz or google maps application, it is not the point here. I'm just trying to be more careful here and make this completely new feature rather more simple now and improved later, then opposite = complicated now and reduce functionality later.

Anyway as we all may see here ... it's just few of us here and so many opinions :). I'll try to sumarize it little bit in my head and create optimal solution for most of us ;).
Yes if they can not understand it they use another app even without offline maps but more simple and their choice goes to the most downloaded from the store (with 10.000.000 download) and with poor features.
I always offer to install locus free but they have not time to spend to acquire the necessary skill.

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#439
Quote from: menion on February 14, 2017, 08:01:05
@zossebart : because it's not yet public version, I do not expect new ideas on help desk, so maybe later. Anyway really for now, keep it simple

@Andrew Heard: I see here two differences compare to Garmin. 1) I'm currently unable to simply backup all settings like this. We may improve restoring of backups over backup manager ( restart will be anyway still needed ), but it's really almost impossible to include everything into preset. 2) how system you mentioned in Garmins, allows to define which settings to restore? There is no such option, right? It simply save current state and later restore it and overwrite everything you meanwhile changed, am I understand correctly?

@lor74cas : well I try to simplify Locus Map as much as possible last months, maybe years :). If there is need for something like "but all starting settings are made by me", then I see a problem that such setup is even needed. Why it does not work after install without any setup for your wife/friends?
Because they all need to use locus without mobile connection with openandroidmaps but without the effort in locus store, they want the beautiful hill shading as me, they want the hide panel to see the entire map, someone want the dashboard I use and so on ...
They are scared about to put their hands in settings but they want all this features, if I help them they will use locus, elsewhere they will look for an other app.
Not all the users are gps/mobile/teach fan in other words nerds as us on this forum. With respect for all the nerds

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#440
Quote from: john_percy on February 13, 2017, 18:44:29
I think presets need a little testing before it is clear what are the best ideas. It's probably not good to decide in a rush.
+1

Every friend I show locus tell me the same thing "beautiful but too complicated for my skill" all these friends are trail runner, trekker etc used to manage maps, they are scared about too many options menu etc.
In my opinion not only present needs a basic and advanced mode but every menu in locus.
My wife for example uses locus pro too but all starting settings are made by me.
A basic user is the 90% and wants something simple.
The 10% who wants a particular set up is skilled enough to use also a menu a little more complicated.
IMHO hello locus friends


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#441
Quote from: menion on February 06, 2017, 18:17:24
I was thinking about it, but for me it looks like really complicated to say, what activation of preset will do. You will have to remember, which settings are included into preset based on some "color difference" in big settings screen? Hmm quite complicated.

I may simplify current system even little more to be closer (but not exact) to this.

Current system:
1. open "Presets" screen
2. tap "+" to add new
3. set it's icon & name and tap save
4. you are in list of preferences. Preferences are even now set based on current value in app and you may modify them
5. back button returns to list of "Presets"

We may simplify it little bit to:
1. open "Presets" screen
2. tap "+" to add new
3. set it's icon & name and tap save
4. you are back in list of "Presets" with new preset added to start

5. (optional) advanced users may modify it's values by "edit" button in context menu

So for basic users, this will look like Garmin style and option to modify it's content without need to create new preset will remain. Should it be better?

The second one the better, your method is what I badly tried to explain but what you create, with the list of settings, is better preset editing.

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#442


Quote from: menion on February 06, 2017, 15:49:37
@balloni55: no problem :)

@Žajdlík Josef : thanks both issues fixed. I've removed "Dynamic elevations" from possible options, but remained in list. I've also prepared probably final version of "Presets", for now.

System used in Garmin is nice, but is not technically and practically possible to use complete! save/restore of all settings in Locus Map. Some of you use this already over backup manager, but it always needs a restart, so not the best solution.

So for now, let's start with list of options, that cannot be modified.
Content: fullscreen, shift map center, map resolution, map autozoom, auto-recalculate, map centering, map rotation, vector themes and dashboard.

When there will be need for another settings, we may discuss if list has still usable size or if we need introduce "advanced edit mode", that allows edit content of presets.

But you can use the Garmin method only for the settings you put in your preset.
You can write this settings in a different colour in the menu we are used to find them, then you save their state in a preset, change them and save for another preset, in this way it's easy also to store basic profile and you have not to replicate all settings for each profile and every setting is always at its place.


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#443
Quote from: Andrew Heard on February 05, 2017, 03:21:13
I have just been reading about Presets in the Garmin eTrex 10/20/30 user manual static.garmincdn.com/pumac/eTrex_10-20-30_OM_EN.pdf - page 29. Garmin calls Presets Profiles!

Summary:

  • Preset > Add - adds new preset using existing settings
  • Preset > T:Edit meta - call this "Rename"
  • Preset > Delete - no change
  • Preset > T:Edit content - no longer needed (see next point)
  • The exact list of settings is not visible to the user. No long/ complex screens of settings  - would make Petr happy and considerably reduce programming/ translations.
  • There is zero or one active preset. As settings are changed they are automatically saved to this active preset.
  • I think it would therefore be useful to again display "active" or preset name in red, for the active preset.
  • This model has radically simpler interface but I think offers same functionality, and faster/ more efficient to use.
So Garmin take a copy of current state of settings and gives it a preset name, good idea. Simple to create basic state to go back and to copy the settings of every special use.

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#444
Quote from: menion on January 31, 2017, 06:48:12
Hi guys,
ok, forget on presets, seems that concept is wrong, and I need to find out some different method how to do it.

Mainly because there is nothing like "active preset", so there is nothing to deactivate ...  :'(
You lost the battle not the war.
What about to create a predefined preset like "your default" which copies all actual settings before the creation of any user profile. So the user can go back easily.
You can, only for this special profile, create a button with an update function when the user basic settings change.

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#445
Quote from: LocusUser#1 on January 27, 2017, 11:12:30
Since beta 3.21.1.4 locus does not remember the last used offline vector map at the end, it is displayed after a restart always the last used online map. My vector maps lie in a subdirectory "OpenAndroMaps".
Confirmed

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#446
Quote from: menion on January 22, 2017, 09:30:51
Please ignore "T:" symbol at start of texts. These are my internal texts, that are not yet ready for translations, so I mark them with "T:" to be sure not to forget on them before final release.

About second point: currently it's possible to download maps from OpenAndroMaps directly from web site by button "Install on Locus", did you tried it? It directly starts Locus and in previous versions this button started Locus and opened big loading screen. You were forced to wait till download ends etc etc. Now it's made differently.
Thank you.
IMHO preset and rec profiles can converge into an only setup menu.
You can have for example 4 rec profiles select the 2 for hiking, if you don't start recording the track it just applies the presets, at rec start it apply also the recording settings.
Just to simplify menu, there are so many features in this wonderfull app that can make finding the one you need too complicated.

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#447
Quote from: menion on January 22, 2017, 07:19:54
Hi guys,
yesterday evening I've just published new Beta version 3.21.1.4.

- firstly there are some improvements in current version of "Presets" ( previously "Profiles"), so give it another try. Think about this feature only as about shortcut to set more parameters at once, not like changing Locus Map to completely different mode (profile) and later back.

- second ... these from you, who use downloading system for maps on 3rd party servers, like OpenAndroMaps and some others, please try to download these maps directly to Locus, if all works fine for You. Same system is not used for HGT files directly for items in Locus Store, so you may try it as well.
Hello,
Found T: in preset folders
. .

For me is not clear what you wrote in second point, can I manually install openandroidmaps and hgt files as usual?
You want to know if direct install works from openandroidmaps site?
I downloaded hgt files 1' I think the earth is not grow up form last install.
But if I will find in future hgt file better than 1' I will update the dB so I want to know if something is changed


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#448
Quote from: menion on January 15, 2017, 12:57:31
Thanks, interesting issue. Seems you are importing a file from Google Drive? When you browse content of Google Drive directly in Locus Map, there is no problem?
I see in log where issue happen, but do not know why. Seems that Locus Map get response from Google Drive that access is invalid. Locus then try to acquire new valid access which ends correctly, but next request ends again as "invalid" ... and again and again ... till app crash because recognize infinite loop.
It's very strange, gpx files are on SD, not on gdrive.
But the error you found was helpful, I logged out and back in gdrive and now all works fine.
Thank you Menion it wasn't necessary a so quick fix, it's Sunday, it's time to use Locus outside.

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#449
Quote from: menion on January 15, 2017, 09:46:27
Thanks for a file, unfortunately I see no problem on own device. May you please send this crash report once more and into comment write your nickname so I'll be able to find it, thanks!
Crash report with log and lor74cas in text field sent

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#450
track from garmin forerunner, fit file converted in gpx with gpsbabel.
Other gpx file converted from fit to gpx with sporttracks same issue.
The import with previous version was ok, with the same files, some days ago I imported without problems.