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@menion some detailed preset/function panel testing
backup 3.24 pro, includes 15 right side panel buttons, 8 presets
restore settings and presets into 3.24.3.4
all RHS buttons and presets are present
edit 1st preset, add "set function panels"
observe correct 5|15 buttons displayed in preset
select preset, ok
edit other presets, observe all 7 already have new  "set function panels" added, and mixture of 5|0 and 5|1 buttons displayed
I now again edit 1st preset and original 5|15 button count has changed to 5|0
what ever I do, the counts do not stick, very easy to see and reproduce wrong behaviour I hope for you too?

@Andrew Heard:

- track editor : you tap on the track directly on a map and press from ">" menu "Edit on map (beta) and you loose zoom etc? Should not, weird

correct 100% easy to reproduce
zoom in to small part of track
tap track
from track info > edit on map beta
observe whole track displayed and "no point selected" is displayed near top of screen



New route planner using BRouter: add point, add 2nd point, long tap either point, edit, cancel, current calculated track is *sometimes* no longer displayed, only straight line. Other times the calculated track is displayed. And even when point is moved there is no undo button.
No comments from other beta testers?

The function panel buttons are still being lost in latest 3.24.3.4 but I can now add an external app and no longer crash. I can edit a preset, "Set current content", in my case 10 buttons in right panel. I can apply the preset, and works. I can confirm the number of preset function panel buttons, still OK, 10. BUT then after I apply a different preset having 0 or 1 RHS buttons then apply original preset all the 10 RHS buttons are lost - count in preset is 0.

Undo/ redo - wow. In route planner if full undo were provided then is Minus (point) button needed anymore? Full undo is more intuitive and consistent. If I drag a via point it is not possible to undo move at present. With BRouter I also noticed a few times the compute never finished, circle animation never finished. As per my previous comment, more ways to move a via point (GPS, select on map, screen center, points etc) rather than error prone and limited drag with magnifying glass would be great improvement.

Now Track editor: when I use Edit on map (beta), my current zoom is lost, the whole track is displayed, which I don't like much. Use case: I have already zoomed into place to edit, tap track, edit on map, now the position and zoom is lost, and as previously reported, the tapped point of the track is also lost (compared to Pro).

@Andrew Heard: news are mainly in graphics and little bit in background performance. I was also working on new "instroduction" 3page screen

needs English translation thanks

@menion can you provide little more info than release notes "improvement in track editor and route planner" please? Awesome new feature multiple function panels.


The old route planner buttons are now shown briefly when route planner mode is entered and exited.

Bug- if I edit via point name then save or cancel, the magnifying glass icon is left on screen and if I now tap anywhere else I loose my route segment because Locus incorrectly things I am moving the via point. Was bug in previous version too. Now via point name is saved, but I still have issue seeing difference between via and non via point as already discussed.

When you tap a point, at present the via name can be immediately renamed. I suggest it would be far more flexible to display a context menu: toggle via, delete point, move point, add point (from users points?), etc. Without an undo, at present its too easy to make a major mistake.

Since a while Mapsforge offers the priority key for better arranging tags like town names before other tags.
Is it possible to implement it into Locus maps rendering engine?

yes please - often difficult trying to determine town names at present

I'm being slack. I should add a new help topic as this is not a beta bug, but am on the road, and this is quicker, and a simple bug. In the offline address search, if you paste in an address then edit the string such as backspace, mid string, NOT at the end, the cursor position is lost, and returns to the end of string after each tap. Very easy to reproduce and annoying.

[@Andrew Heard]

@Andrew Heard : if you start "edit on map" from list of tracks, then why start point is better then some in the middle or in the end? So I see nothing logical on pre-selecting just the first point. Try to start this "edit" directly from the map to see difference.

About via-points - if you add new point during planning, it is not considered as "via point", just a "helping track point". If you wants to create a permanent via-point, try to tap on green dot once again. This creates real via-point that will be kept in track, visible in list of points and also used during navigation for notification or re-calculation.

I am editing track from the map, not a list. I am pointing out the left/ right buttons start differently to existing pro behaviour. Existing behaviour is for tapped point to be selected, and therefore, generally, both buttons are enabled. Beta behaviour is for tapped point to be ignored.

As discussed before there needs to be better distinction between a green icon helping point and its converted blue? Via point. Currently almost impossible to tell the difference - shape, better colour, size?

If I edit this new track on the map I can long-tap to edit/ move the point (not always?), but from waypoint list there is an error message that point can't be edited?

How about long-tap on point to display same menu as tapping Tool button? Would be faster in lots of situations.

Maybe instead of further menu level Edit/insert > select point yet again, the Tool menu has separate items for Move/ Insert/ Delete?

Seems named via point is lost if edited and moved?

Moving, deleting points, a simple operation, just takes far too many taps. Surely long-tap point > menu > Delete? And if undo facility provided then no need for confirming each and every operation.

Each recompute is taking a very long time too. Just with simple test track.

Just a few long-winded thoughts to speed up editing and make more intuitive? Could there be a workflow "conflict" between users with short tracks wanting very precise control over placement of all points, and users with long tracks that rely mostly on compute source, and just want to steer in right direction is iniial route needs broad adjustment?

With the new route planner, when I then Edit on map, the previous and next point buttons are both disabled. Would it be more useful that the first point is selected so the Next point button is enabled? Also regards rubber banding, at present when I add a via point during route planning, it doesn't have any icon displayed in subsequent map editing. If i move a via point, all other non start/ stop/ via points on each side of this via point should be deleted and those one or two track segments be recomputed.

First experience with the new "route planning" screen.
  Visually very nice, good work. What I miss is the possibility of searching. On the old screen, you could go to the menu / search and do not have to search the map manually. This is not a new version.
  The second thing is that there is no notice of the route being lost. Simply click on the left arrow and the scheduled path disappears.
  Selecting "Navigation / Guidance" from the context menu when creating a route will cause the application to

yes, I agree, its an interesting visual improvement, as said there is currently a need to be able to search and access then add existing points into the route. However the bigger picture/ question for me remains the inability to efficiently edit this new route once it id saved. Sure, you can edit point by point, but useless to micromanage such a route if it is 10's km long. There is still no effective rubber banding. And why there should be a distiction in UI between route creation and route editing?

Good day Andrew, 9 weeks trip, very nice, enjoy it!!

Problems: hmm sorry to hear this. If you will want any older version, just tell me. Anyway crash: immediately after crash take a log and send me it once you will be on internet. I have reported every day many crashes ... for example after last 30 days I see in crash console: 9308 crashes ... eh. All these are anyway just some automatic crash reports by Android system

@menion- thanks. 9 weeks in Italy Dolomites. Difficult to provide useful report while touring sorry. Manageable for now.

@menion I am slow to report this, and I cannot provide any useful log, as I am cycle touring for 9 weeks. But for the last few releases I have noticed Locus pro crash a few times, no good reason, not using any new feature, just randomly. Previously #rock solid#. But I don't read of anyone else reporting such an issue. Second, again no good data, but sometimes the map is not repainted, only POI and track. Not even change of zoom level or theme or Locus restart helps, and I have had to restart whole phone.

The new track editing mode has good potential. First feature I note lacking compared to previous version - long tap on back or forward point would move to first or last point.

Note weather screen date is wrapping in latest beta:

Offtopic in LocusMap context, but good for meteo service comparison:

@poutnikl - not offtopic in that DarkSky and new weather screen is currently beta.

Again quite significant difference in min/max temperatures between DarkSky & Meteo data sources (probably nothing can be done but just reduces confidence in DarkSky and means feature won't be used so much):