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Troubles & Questions / Re: Problems with navigating a route
« on: April 30, 2019, 14:52:06 »
Good day Jonny,
long post full of testing ... sorry for some bad moments you had with the navigation system.

In recent few days, I made some improvements, mainly related to "route priority" recalculation system. It will need some tests, but I think it looks good. If you are using beta versions, next Beta (end of this week) will include these changes.

I wrote about the coming changes here: . Required behavior should be exactly what you need. App should with disabled "stick" option, try to push you back on route, but not force you to go back on some trackpoint far away behind you.
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Hi Locus community,

I made a simple icon pack similar to the marker icons used in OsmAnd – they are well visible also on detailed maps, that’s why I like that style. Maybe they are useful for you, too.

Best, Lucas
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Discussion/New features / Hill shading intensity
« on: April 30, 2019, 11:12:15 »
It seems to me that the hill shading gets increasingly intense at lower zoom levels to the point where it can easily obscure important map details in hilly terrain.
I have two requests
1. Please turn down the volume control at lower zoom levels so the hill shading is more visually consistent
2. Please introduce an intensity control for hill shading in settings

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: April 30, 2019, 09:00:03 »
Q Menion.
A promising tool was tested in previous Beta versions.
"Long push" recalculates complete track (All segments).
Any progress ? 
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Discussion/New features / Re: Update of map core (2019)
« on: April 29, 2019, 09:18:59 »
My first thoughts of the new system:
  • Vector maps look much nicer
  • Overall feels slower, also had the odd crash, but mostly some missing tiles. Is to be expected, I suppose, but stability has to be improved.
  • "Increase map resolution" on vector maps muuuch better due to not just enlarging the tiles. That said, it is a little confusing: My standard setting was 250%. But not all elements seem to be zoomed by 2.5. Streets get only about 50% wider, labels are perhaps double the size. That's at least confusing. Furthermore, now that vector and raster maps are handled differently, "map resolution" seems not the right term for both operations. For vector, resolution may be right, but for raster maps, it's more an "enlarge map".
  • Clickable POIs from my vector maps now also appear on my downloaded raster maps. That's kinda nice, but I don't see where that could be turned off - icons may overlay icons within the map, which is not great. Also, icon size seems to be fixed.
  • Love the fact that you can now overlay anything other anything. I had some overlays that I couldn't use before (like hiking trails), which work great now. However, now that I copied them back to my phone, they clutter up the "Quick Map Switch" menu. As they're only overlays (with alpha channel), they make no sense to use on their own. Please add a flag to mark a map  as "overlay only". Or at least a "Don't show in Quick Map switch".
  • Like the tilting, but as I wrote in main thread for current version, user should be somehow informed about the functionality. Easily confusing.
  • The "zoom lock" restructions also bother me a little. As I wrote in main thread, I think user should not be restricted for no reason to zoom to lower than 50%. Sure, things get slower, but that's up to the user to decide whether it's OK still. On my HDPI devices, I love the overview+details I can get by zooming out with zoom lock.
Apart from that, I must admit, the whole MapForge V3, V4, V5 discussion has me confused. By now, I seriously wonder if I'm missing out on functionality that would be possible if I just used the right maps/themes. I can't even seem to figure out what the default Locus Maps + Internal Themes combination uses. Perhaps it doesn't matter much, but I'm wondering if I would gain a lot by using OpenAndroMaps plus their themes again. Perhaps some Knowledge Base article would be nice together with the next version - or did I miss something?
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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: April 29, 2019, 08:45:50 »
I stumbled upon the new Quick Action Menu. Did I miss something or has that not been mentioned here/in the release notes? I like it, but when is it planned to go live? Does look basically ready to me...
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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: April 26, 2019, 16:38:10 »
Hi guys,
firstly I wanted to test big changes in map system privately a little longer but seems it is enough stable, to put it into Beta test.

So new Beta version

The long list of changes after an update like usually. Major changes are related to a big rewrite of how app work with map files, with scaling system etc. More about it in the related topic here. Version merges all changes I made in preparation to the new 3.38 version + half of year work on new map core.

Wish you nice coming weekend!

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To the Locus and OpenAndroMaps community,

after many try-and-error runs I was able to adapt my "outdoor" theme and create the new "outdoorV4" theme, which can be used with the new multi-language mapsforge V4 OpenAndroMaps. It is compatible only with these new maps!
In general, I have tried to make the theme identical to the existing "outdoor" theme. Due to problems with many tags used for the configuration of font sizes and priorities, many small changes had to be made. You will find more details (i. e. which tags had to be ommitted) an my website [in German].
Please take the theme as a draft. I am happy for any comments, suggestions and there will be constant improvements. Maybe, I will adapt in the future also my existing "desert" theme.

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Thanks guys for the feedback.

It is possible that it will be one big fail as Christian wrote (based on "field test"). There is always a risk. My intuition works correctly since begin and I believe, it will work again.

Well, from long term sustainability, there is no other choice. Anyway, we have something useful to offer, we try to have fair friendly style regards to price, communication etc. Market with hike/bike apps is big. Which is good. It a) learn users to use mobile phones for this kind of activity and b) everyone may choose. Win:win for all.

Options like bigger paid updates are a big technical problem, mainly because such system is not natively supported by Google Play. So subscription, which usage is globally highly growing, is the best choice.

And it's correctly only partially Andrew. Big companies are able to pay services from other incomes in their product portfolio. Google Maps are free for users because they are paid by income from ads etc. So yes, it is hard for small teams, because they are unable to offer "all for free" system. Fortunately, some people understand it and are willing to pay one/two beers for something that has benefit for them.

It's funny, but I understand the problem we discuss here well. I'm paying subscription for Medium, Google Play Music and few other services, but it took me also some time, till I realized that this is a perfectly logical and expected solution of "where to get the useful content/feature" problem :).

So I believe, all was said. I'll gladly answer any specific questions, but general discussion if the subscription is or isn't an ideal solution, is not useful. We globally confirmed in the whole team this week that it is a way we will go this year.

One summary: Locus Map Pro will be renamed to Locus Classic. It WILL BE still developed and updated! Huge source code base will be still shared between both versions, so fixes and changes in existing features will be updated in Locus Classic as well! So worries that app stop work in the near future are useless. Dot.
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I guess many users are rather against paying transactions themselves than against paying itself.

Also, many people are against suspicious at subscription philosophy as seen at big SW players like Microsoft or Adobe, that tend to draw a lot of money per small amounts.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: April 23, 2019, 13:02:29 »
1. hmm point screen is really old and is on top of my priorities right after I get rid of map & LM4 stuff. In the moment you do a tiny change in "new point screen", the back button is equal to "save". The correct system is made in "Track edit screen" and the same needs to be applied here.

2. look on this from the opposite side: on the trip, you are in an interesting place you want to save. And the fact you play with map does not change anything on the fact, that you stand on the place you want to save.

There are situations where the first or second option is useful. Currently, Locus Map use GPS if available. If you do not like this behavior, feel free to change it in the settings > points & tracks > new point default location.

Bringing a paper map to the digital world is not always ideal I think. Here (digital world) we have one powerful information you miss on paper map: your location.

do you know any other application that sort data by the center of the map? At least Google Maps definitely do not do this. Locus is a little special here.


Anyway in config.cfg exists parameter "gui_data_point_list_sort_by_gps" that should affect this. Expect fact it is incorrectly named, it also does not work as expected in all cases, heh.

So in the next version will be in "expert settings" new "Sort data by" settings for this. As I see, we had to discuss this long time ago. My bad > default parameter is already set to "map center", sorry :). So I'll leave it as is.


So based on the above paragraph, an important change to keep system same (no matter what I think now): sorting of content in the app will remain by default by "map center". Searching, to keep consistent, will use the same settings, so by default, it will use "map center" as searching center-point. Global agree?

@Andrew Heard
hmm, if possible: give a try next Beta version that will come this week. If there will still be this problem, should be again possible to share with me your current track database + current map coordinates you have? Thanks

hmm I see where this "toast" appears, but to fix it correctly, I need to know steps to simulate it. It should appear only when you try to do something and by some accident, no trackpoint is selected (so it should work only as a rare warning in case of a problem).
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Especially regarding custom BRouter scripts, not to be limited to the ones build in to LocusMap.

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Discussion/New features / Re: Update of map core (2019)
« on: April 06, 2019, 12:04:11 »
Hi guys,
one month delay ... not too bad I believe.

So who is brave enough to try the new special Alpha version? :)

How to:
Download Map-alpha:
Download Map-alpha:
Download Map-alpha:

Version is based on 3.37.2 + latest fixes + months of work on new "map core".

What to test:
Best: use as you usually do with the regular version.

I mainly try to achieve:
- better support for MapsForge V4 maps
- the good old Map manager that looks exactly the same as in current public version (it use different map system on background)
- improved suggested maps in "Quick map switch"
- better display of raster maps on devices with higher DPI
- correct work of overlays
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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: March 20, 2019, 16:33:43 »
@Andrew Heard and @john_percy
guys, it is really necessary to live in the area with negative latitude or longitude? Next time, choose better and live in middle Europe ;). Thanks John, fixed :) (thanks to your backup)
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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.37.+ ( 18. 3. 2019 )
« on: March 20, 2019, 15:32:41 »
@menion @Andrew Heard
It would appear that this is connected with certain historic data.
- Some tracks show zero distance away when sorted by "nearness" but some do not.
- For some of these "zero distance" tracks, clicking on the mini-map to move to the track's location and display it means that the distances are correct on reopening the tracks screen. However closing the app and reopening it resets distances to zero, as does re-sorting the tracks or moving to current location.
- For others of the "zero distance" tracks, the above has no effect.
I'll email my backup.
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