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Did someone also notice that the "Supplementary Map Download" functionality is basically broken, at least starting with Android 13? Even though I'm using the sideloaded AFA build.
The problem is that Locus seems to always store downloaded maps in its Android/data/menion.android.locus directory, but when I choose "Supplementary Download", I cannot choose that directory (Android/data is shown empty). I can choose Android/media/menion.android.locus, but I don't get the map there. Even Total Commander with AFA is not able to read the downloaded map file within Android/data, so I can't move it manually.

Menion, could the file chooser be changed such that it can also show Locus' internal directory?

All locus notifications are active
Permissions for Locus are active except physical activity.
Out of my curiosity, what is "physical activity" in locus for?
Thank you

I think that's for the new (but beta) auto-pause detection.

Hi Menione. Backup files sent to the cloud are too big. The last one has over 0.5 GB. Most of the space is occupied by the track.db (800 MB) file. It is unnecessary to back up routes and points for the Gold version because they are stored in the Webplaner. Would it be too difficult to miss these files for Gold users from autonatic backups?

I strongly oppose leaving out the *.db by default. As an option, ok, but in my view, this is an absolute necessity - you can never rely on online storage service, I want to be able to restore my database even when e.g. Locus Web is down.

UI - I think SET/Recalculate position should be swapped. Typically, bottom right has OK (what you could say "Set" is, and it was there before). In my quick workflow I almost end up recalculating all when I just wanted to change routing profile.

My thought precisely. "Special operation" in the lower right is a recipe for disaster

Yes, it should be by its "Created time" parameter. And well, you know. Waypoints in the app are painful and need a new system for handling them. Old problem ...

I could start again about my hope to at some point being able to create waypoints in the track editor, so they have a datetime. It's one of my biggest annoyances that waypoints created during recording have a timestamp, but when I forget them and want to add them later on, they won't have a timestamp that fits to the track.
Not all waypoints are POIs, like "hut", but things like "put on snowshoes", "removed crampons", etc. For those things, times are of relevance, especially if you use the same trail several times.
Well, I'll keep hoping...

@Menion, waypoints embedded in tracks, can you make them display them in alphabetical order? Currently it's by distance, which is not always useful.

Aren't they sorted by datetime when created? Anyway, I agree it's not always ideal, so best would probably be custom sort order button...

Today Auto Stop activated. Looks quite good.

I'm wondering, what's the difference?

Yeah, that should probably be re-worded to make clear that first setting is about "device movement" and second about received GPS positions. Well, or vice versa

The time of splitted tracks > can't confirm. Even in the code - the app assigns the "Creation time" of the original track to both two newly generated tracks. Please check it again, thanks.

But that's exactly what I'm saying: Splitted tracks have the same Creation time. So they can't be sorted-by-creation-time anymore, even though one of those tracks clearly "happened" earlier in time. You're just lucky if the titles are alphabetically in the correct order.
What I'm asking for is sort-by-start-time, sorting by the date/time of the first timestamped point in the track.

Were the Android intents removed in 4.12? Didn't see anything in the changelog, perhaps overlooked it. Anyway, my old Tasker tasks didn't work anymore, using Locus Tasker plugin now instead. I assume that is the recommended solution now?!

That would be a desaster. I cannot confirm, what exactly? My 4.12.1 auto recorded yesterday and Tasker added a waypoint to the recording. Just fine.

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Action: com.asamm.locus.ACTION_TASK
Cat: None
Extra: tasks: { track_record  : { action: "add_wpt", name: "Pause: %pause_minutes minutes", auto_save: true } }
Package: menion.android.locus
Target: Broadcast Receiver


For me, starting/stopping recording didn't work anymore. But I didn't investigate further, just replaced the calls with Tasker plugin, which worked, so I was happy. That's why I'm asking (and also because I have a faint remembrance that Menion at some point mentioned that intents were outdated and to-be-removed at some point, but I could be wrong).

Been away for a long holiday, and noticed an annoying thing: When splitting tracks, Locus assigns the current date/time as creation dt to the new tracks. Which is fine, but then I can't sort correctly anymore. "By creation date" will not sort those tracks (same timestamps), and then falls back to alphabetic.

Is it possible to add "Sort by Start date"? Because in the end, 95% of the time that's what I actually need (5% is alphabetic). Of course, tracks without any timestamped point cannot be sorted like this, but in that case fallback to creation date would be ok, I guess (or alphabetic).

Were the Android intents removed in 4.12? Didn't see anything in the changelog, perhaps overlooked it. Anyway, my old Tasker tasks didn't work anymore, using Locus Tasker plugin now instead. I assume that is the recommended solution now?!

What I was thinking is "function bar in presets" needs another thought. They are complex to maintain. Let's say you have 5 presets which change function bars, but only 2 kinds of function bars. You always have to make function bar changes in any of those, which have the same style. Maybe function bars need an own preset system, just like dashboards. Or possibly make life easier, like copy/paste whole button setup to clipboard.

+1

While I'm dreaming:
Presets for track styles.
For me, track styles don't map 1:1 to folders. In fact, they usually don't map at all. It would be more like
- folder "Holiday 2022"
- different styles for "Biking", "Hiking", "Road Trip", etc.
Right now, I have to keep my own list of track style parameters for different activities.

There is more options on how to improve Presets. I'm still playing in my mind with two
- remember state before applying preset and allow restoring the previous state (already used in the navigation!)
- change the whole concept that you will be always in one active! preset (profile) and will just switch between them

I don't think the second option is a great idea: If implemented like that, every change of a setting *must* also change the active preset. That's definitely not what I want: If e.g. I change the map theme, I still want the original preset theme when I next activate it.
Only solution to this, I think would be that every change puts you in "unsaved preset", which you then can save, or discard when activating another preset. That would actually be cool, but I image it being rather complicated to implement.
Currently, I'm very happy with the existing system.

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Hmm removed time&date in the popup is some kind of unwanted side-effect. This feature should be an optional settings in the Settings > Points & tracks > Track label > . This option is anyway missing in the LM4 and seems you did some "reset" of settings so this option was changed to the default "false". Will be fixed in the next app version.

Thx. Talking about "reset of settings": I mentioned this before, but I can confirm now that it happens with every install of a new beta version: Navigation>Select Voice is reset to "Text-to-speech". I always set it to "No voice", and everytime after a new install and I start a navigation, I suddenly hear a voice again, because TTS got reset to default. Not a biggie, just weird nobody else seems to have it (perhaps everyone here uses TTS?)...

I just noticed a change in the Track Editor (aka "Fine-Tuner"): When clicking on a point, the date/time is not shown anymore in the pop-up. Could you please bring that back, at least the time? I really think it's a big step back, I need the time all the time (no pun intended), e.g. to find out where the rest was in a track. Now I need several clicks for the details for every point! The time only takes 5 characters, so I don't really see any reason to get rid of it...