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Question about the "Pre-load Global Map":
Is it possible to use that only for vector maps?

I'm using the bitmap world map from OpenAndroMaps because we all know that vector maps look sh** in low ZLs. However, Locus also uses it for other bitmap maps, which seems wrong to me: If a bitmap map provides those ZL, why replace them? Would be nice to at least make that optional...

It would be great if Locus had a
"Always force latin letters"
option somewhere. When a name only has greek or cyrillic writing, you would simply render a 1:1 replacement with latin letters instead. That would be a great help in Greece and other funky non-latin countries.

Sorry to say, but there is no such thing as a 1:1 replacement for different scripts. Not even within Latin - did you know that the English "sh" is written in German as "sch", in Polish as "sz", in Hungarian as simple "s" and in some other Slavic languages as "š"? Or that the pronunciation of Oslo would be best approximated in English as "Ooshloo"? Greek may be reasonably doable, as afaik only one major language uses that script. But Cyrillic already has the same problem as Latin scripts: Special variants that have different transliterations depending on the country or even dialect.
This is a topic that linguists spent years on - I don't think it's helpful if Locus on its own implements some simplified (or "half-a**ed") solution...

Why the is my avatar picture in that screenshot? 

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@slarti76
What do you mean by " Is the stuff after "?" simply ignored in this context"? There is no issue on the geo.admin web. The whole list is generated by me based on received XML that is perfectly valid.

No, well, I tried the following two links:
- https://wms.geo.admin.ch/?REQUEST=GetCapabilities&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0
- https://wms.geo.admin.ch/?request=GetMetadata&layer=ch.bazl.einschraenkungen-drohnen

The first is obviously the whole layer directory, the second a single layer. When I paste them in the browser, I get different results, the second being much smaller, as expected.

But when I add them with that manual method in Locus, I get the same long list both times. That's why I thought perhaps the part after "?" doesn't matter?

My thinking was to avoid the long unwieldy list by only adding the layers I need, using the "direct" links.

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Map overlay > I think we understand each other. Yes, "Map overlay toggle" is what I expect you want . Dashboard is quite a complex tool, where you have to select from the list of available dashboards. So simple toggle for the last active dashboard makes sense to me. In the case of other features, like overlay, shading (generally everything available in the side "Map-screen content" panel), it is not so complicated to toggle them, so a special button is overkill from my point of view. With the "Map overlays" button in the side panel, it is just three taps to toggle it. Not a big deal ...

Ok, fair enough.

Add new WMS > I've already improved it in the last version. And search? I know. Some WMS maps have a really huge list of layers, so a search should be more than welcome here. I have known this for years, but never had enough time at the right moment to solve it, sorry (it requires a completely new screen as this, maybe 10 years old can't no longer be easily updated).

I understand.
Still, I gotta ask again why the direct link still gives the whole list? Is the stuff after "?" simply ignored in this context, or is the problem on the side of geo.admin.ch?

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"Dashboard button" > are you really using the "Dashboard" item? Because there exists also a "Dashboard toggle" button that behaves exactly as you describe. Also, long-click is always a "hidden feature", so I cannot add some critical functionality (like display of dialog) under it.

Some misunderstanding here. I was comparing with the Dashboard functionality. I am aware of the "Dashboard Toggle" and basically would like the same for "Map Overlay". I get it that the long-click is kind of a workaround, but wouldn't it be possible to add "Map Overlay Toggle" button, same as "Dashboard Toggle" button?

Multiple overlays > not planned, sorry.

Fair enough. I kinda expected this to not be possible...

Custom WMS > a little hidden. Map manager > WMS/WMTS tab > "+" > Add from library > "+" > and here you go ... this does not make sense right? Hmm ...

Yeah, that works. Not intuitive, but I can live with that. However, try to add this link:
https://wms.geo.admin.ch/?REQUEST=GetCapabilities&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0
You get a huuuge list (non-alphabetic, unfortunately), without a way to search. Impossible to find what you're looking for. I tried to add a direct link I found in the file:
https://wms.geo.admin.ch/?request=GetMetadata&layer=ch.bazl.einschraenkungen-drohnen
But this still displays the whole list. Is that a bug? Otherwise, any chance to add a search here?

Another question:
I have the link to a WMS map (e.g. https://wms.geo.admin.ch/?REQUEST=GetCapabilities&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0), but I can only find a way to add WMS maps from a directory (where this map is not available). How can I add a WMS map by URL?

...and this

Not a bug report, granted, but I recently noticed some inconsistency:
The "Dashboard" function panel button shows/hides the dashboard, and long-press brings the option to select a dashboard. But the "Map Overlay" button always shows the selection dialog.
It would be more useful if the button also simply turns map overlay on/off, and the long-press menu offers the option to select (and setup the alpha, etc.). Also given that the detail dialog is available from the "Map-screen content" panel.

And while I'm at it: Any chance for multiple overlays? For example, I have overlays for public transport stops and hiking routes, and would like to show them together...

Menion, not to bother, but seems like you overlooked this.

Another question:
I have the link to a WMS map (e.g. https://wms.geo.admin.ch/?REQUEST=GetCapabilities&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0), but I can only find a way to add WMS maps from a directory (where this map is not available). How can I add a WMS map by URL?

Not a bug report, granted, but I recently noticed some inconsistency:
The "Dashboard" function panel button shows/hides the dashboard, and long-press brings the option to select a dashboard. But the "Map Overlay" button always shows the selection dialog.
It would be more useful if the button also simply turns map overlay on/off, and the long-press menu offers the option to select (and setup the alpha, etc.). Also given that the detail dialog is available from the "Map-screen content" panel.

And while I'm at it: Any chance for multiple overlays? For example, I have overlays for public transport stops and hiking routes, and would like to show them together...

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@slarti76
OruxMaps ... funny comment @Tapio  . Unfortunately, I believe there will still be more than slarti .

This is a general topic where all sorts of problems and features are discussed. Most of us use only a minority of what Locus Map can do, but -> when it's implemented and it does not work, it should be fixed (or removed for good), even if used only by a single person.

Back to problem > fix with the "map name" was only aesthetic. I'm also testing one Oruxmap and it works without a problem. Do you have this issue with all such maps?

Turns out this was a totally different problem, nothing with OruxMaps: I was still using the AFA build, and it affected all maps situated in folders other than Android/media or Android/data. Now that the Android/media way is working well, I switched to non-AFA and moved all my maps, and the problem doesn´t appear anymore.
As AFA is not an official thing, you can ignore this problem, I think.

I used sqlitedb for the most simple data collection for raster maps: lon, lat, ZL are the keys, pointing to a BLOB (the image).
This is a format many apps can handle, it is not a Locus invention.

Pardon me for not havin experience with that. All I'm saying is that it's no obvious without some experience/knowledge whether Orux is fundamentally different or not.

Hmmm, mbtiles and sqlitedb are quite common, beyond Locus, and not a Locus private bitmap format.

Well, OruxMaps is also "just" sqlitedb, so there must be more to it. What I mean to say is that the fact that Locus uses sqlitedb, doesn't mean the actual db structure is the same as in other sqlitedb maps. You can't judge from the outside.

Out of curiosity - why do you use these kinds of maps instead of OAM/Lomaps?

As I wrote above, we have a friend who provides these. And OAM/LoMaps is really not the right comparison, as OruxMaps are bitmap, not vector. And when it's about external bitmap maps, I think there's no alternative to Orux, otherwise Locus only supports its own format, which I have never seen anywhere else. So Orux may be a competition, but offers a format that is at least somewhat known, whereas Locus-bitmap maps are not. I may be wrong there.

I find it a little weird that two people thank you for a post basically telling me my bug report is of no importance? I don't complain when others report bugs that are of no concern for me...

Nah..., not about importance, just target audience. I apologise, my post was a bit unclear. I'm rather thinking this kind of stuff should better be handled via an official ticked because there's likely nobody to address in the user forum.

Fair enough, apology accepted. I decided to post it here, because Menion is in the audience , and the appearance of the bug exactly coincided with the fixing of that map name display bug, which also I was one of the reporters. So I think it makes sense to point that out here. Granted, correlation != causation, so maybe it's a coincidence the bug appeared at the same time.

And I'm using that Orux format a lot, as are some colleagues, because we have a friend who provides maps in that format. I had no reason to believe this is rare or common.