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New beta:

@Track details:
Great, loving it! Finally one-click track profile!

@Sync:
Minor observation: I had automatic sync turned off for a while (during beta phase and in my holidays, I didn't trust it enough). Now I turned it on on two devices. By chance, one of them had two new tracks. But they weren't synced after turning auto on on both. A later change however got synced immediately.
I think, turning on Auto-sync should trigger one background sync immediately.

@Shading:
Look at the screenshots: The map shading in level 12 is visibly more detailed than in level 13.
I think we talked about this a while ago, Menion, I remember it was intentional for performance reasons, but I thought I convinced you to change it, or didn't I? For one thing, even with my slower outdoor phone (XCover Pro), it doesn't seem to slow down map painting much. And for another, it may be more detail, but the map area for which it is shown is also 1/4, so that balances itself out.
It's not only aestethic, you also lose valuable information, e.g. for slopes > 30° in winter. If you don't want to change the default, perhaps an Expert Setting? At least the user should be able to override performance-based defaults...

but frankly, what do you expect? As long as you didn't log the new device in with any account

@slarti76 - what do you expect? I expect something less confusing - as I tried to explain in step #3 I had logged in with the same account, so Locus should display "My Subscriptions" and not "Go Premium". Anyway, @Menion is aware of the issue. Thanks.

I apologize for the snarky answer from my side. Wasn't my day, shouldn't have written at all.

[Display Go Premium or My Subscription?]

Display Go Premium or My Subscription?

• on 1st device - Gold subscription displayed at bottom of menu
• on 2nd device with newly installed LM4 - menu @ bottom displays Go Premium
• on 2nd device - menu > Locus Store - confirm account, exit
• on 2nd device - now menu @ bottom correctly displays My Subscription, and each further time LM4 is run

Because the new 2nd device is logged in to the same Locus World account, it should be able to immediately determine that the My Subscription menu item is displayed instead of the confusing Go Premium menu item.

I had the same, but frankly, what do you expect? As long as you didn't log the new device in with any account, Locus can't check for subscription, can it?

LM4.0.0 Cloud Sync > Compute Plan error:

• Cloud sync (manual)
• dot-dot-dot > Advanced > Compute Plan
• interesting geeky plan > tap Back
• observe error 10601 in attached screen cap

Same for me - me and others pushed Menion to add this option, obviously Menion forgot to take out the error message in this - now intended - situation.

LM4.0.0 Locus Store bug: successfully downloaded a LoMap (vector) then tap Back > Back > Back > Back > ahhh - I can't escape  from LM4 ;-)

stuck on the screen cap page
tap Back > displays Loading..." for 5s then returns to same page

This behaviour was always like this (LM3, too). Tap the "home" button in the lower left corner.

Downloader works only for "Unmetered" connections, so usually wi-fi (general connections where you have no limit).

Ok, fine with me, just better mention it in the dialog or people might not use it for fear of costs.

The selection of individual items is there partially for historical reasons. Anyway as I wrote, it will needs improvements. I have something in my mind, but because it is not extra important now, it will have to wait a while ...

Sure, not that important, looking forward to what you have in mind

Shared content > not everything is shared! Anyway as I already mentioned few times, since September 2021, this will no longer works and data will have to be unique for both apps. Till then, I have to prepare system that will copy data from internal memory to app private folders ...

I know. Still, having to edit mark my dashboards with "LM4" manually to tell them apart is a bit of a workaround.

[@slarti76]

@slarti76
Thanks  . We are really curious after a month or two, if this system will work ...

"Routing data updater" > it was moved under the routing menu. Choose "Internal LoRouter" in the settings navigation and tap on the side settings menu. The best is to set up more frequent automatic updates and forget on this ... it works quite well as 4 days or weekly updates are really small. I see currently only missing option and it's a method to remove un-needed segments. This later ...

Well, I only saw the new auto-update now, that's nice - but it's missing a "WiFi only" option. Or, if that's the case anyway, a note saying that. Even if it's small, when roaming it might be a problem.
Secondly, I don't see why cleaning up a long list by one option has any use. If a list has <10 items, then yeah. But this is a "all Locus can do on one tap" list, so why leave it out if someone likes it there? (not necessarily me)

@Bernard P.
1. if you have main "Locus" folder in the root of internal memory, most content will be shared. No problem with this setup for now. Later this year, it will have to change, but more about it later ...

I actually have to pour a little salt in here. While it's true that everything is shared - and I didn't experience any problems - some data that is shared would have better been separated. I know, should've mentioned that earlier, but I think presets and dashboards should've gotten their own directories ("presets4"/"dashboards4"?). I had to do new dashboards because the old ones didn't play along well with the new design. For presets, the main problem is the setup of the function panels - there also some stuff doesn't make sense anymore with the new layout and functions (e.g. I had to re-add "Lock Zoom" in my function panels, but don't need it in LM3).
Personally, I don't care, because I intend to drop LM3 completely. But I think it should be mentioned.

First of all: Great work, so happy it's finally out. Wish you good luck with the subscription model!

One weird thing I noticed:
I installed LM4 for the first time on a phone where I didn't use the betas. Trying to populate my "Floating menu", I can't find "Routing data updater". So I checked my other phone where that button is already in the Floating menu: It's still there, but the long-click list also doesn't contain it - so if I replace it, I wouldn't be able to get it back...
Additional: What is in the list, though, is the Floating Menu again, which makes no sense (down the rabbit hole )

"Track rec visibility - auto hide"
Set via presets. Rec. button does not hide, at least while recording.

Isn't that exactly what you want? Optionally hide it when it's not recording, but when it is, keep it in view?

My understanding, too.

A bit older report, but just to confirm: No crashes anymore when opening Sync or returning to Sync dialog after Locus was in the background for a while.

I reported this before, but it still happens sometimes: When editing a track and deleting (either a point or a section), sometimes the track disappears and nothing can be selected anymore. Have to leave Track Editor and start it again. If I remember correctly, Menion, you fixed something, and it definitely happens less (RC2), but it's not gone.

And another minor sync observation:
I have a track displayed on Device A and then edit this track on Device B and sync it to A. Sync works, but track is not displayed anymore. Not just "not displayed on map", but the Eye icon is also deselected now.

Story to illustrate my "sync-trust-issues":
After public beta got out, I could finally sync my main device again. Worked fine, only uploads to/deletions on server. Synced on second device, also fine. Then immediately synced on second device again: There were changes! I checked the database, and everything seemed to be fine, so probably just "identical overwrites", but these things are disconcerting and undermine trust.
At the very least we should have the option to get a detailed list of executed sync ops to check integrity after the fact. And, as mentioned above, forced upload/download operations back.

To me this sync thing is still a mess. Intransparent, and maybe even unreliable (I will know after completion and further tests).
The least I do exepct is:
- a LIST of actions planned - drill down (i.e. summary at folder/group level, "+" to expand), for both, tracks and points (where are the points in the web view, BTW?)
- check boxes (all checked initially) to give control to the user
- once executing: progress indication in detail, not just % (e.g. # done/to be done per folder/group)

I support this "overview before the deed" idea! I also still even in recent betas had sync hiccups, so I'm definitely not at a point where I trust it completely. I will keep my personal backup-restore system (of full db with FolderSync) ready for a while.
Menion, at the least bring back those "debug" options to store all to server/overwrite all from server. You need to have a fallback if something goes wrong, but the user knows where the correct data is right now.

Good news:
Beta from Play Store doesn't trigger sync anymore if only track preview updated, as discussed. Can put this to rest, thx 

Minor observation Beta from Play Store:
I installed it on my tab, subscribed to Gold immediately. Then updated on my phone, but there it first showed as unpaid with adds. I had to go to the subscriptions dialog, where Locus at some point realized i had Gold and activated all features/turned off ads.
This should be checked on startup...