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I'm talking about Android 9+. Check how it looks on my device (screenshot with new normal mode and full-screen mode). Full-screen is just useless now as it displays top black panel. Normal mode nicely covers the whole screen with the map. It should look similar on all A9+ devices ...

No, that's simply not the case. At least for my (Samsung) devices (A10 and 11), "real" full-screen gets rid of all system panels. They only reappear by sliding up from the bottom or down from the top. Considerably more display space for Locus (or any app). Your "black upper panel" rather looks like a bug to me, never seen that on any Android device in Full-screen.
So my vote is "Keep Full-screen"!

add: new full-screen map mode for Android 9+ (map behind system panels)

Perhaps I'm blind, but what is this? I tried 3 devices with Android 10 and 11, don't notice any difference in fullscreen. Perhaps no effect on Samsungs?
Disregard that, the "full-screen" confused me, because the effect is not visible in actual "Fullscreen" mode, where there are no system bars visible anyway. So I just looked at that mode and didn't notice any difference - which is correct. I didn't look at the "normal" screen.

Noticed problem in landscape: The new track and point screens are opened on the right side in landscape, which is good use of screen real estate. But the have neither action icons nor a menu. Can't do anything, have to return to portrait mode for any operation...

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Probably the app tried to perform a sync, but because of missing wi-fi, the sync task was stopped. It is expected behavior right? So confusion is from the fact, that app even tried to do a sync?

Yes. I mean, I don't care about that rotating circle, but getting a "sync not finished" in the notification center that I have to click away, even though I wanted it that way, is quite annoying.

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I wrote that I do not have what to do?
[/quote]Yeah, forgot the smiley

But another thing, concerning sync:
I was on tour this weekend, away from mobile networks and certainly WiFi. I have my Sync set to "WiFi only", still I noticed that Locus was trying to sync (animated circle, notification about sync that didn't run). Even when I had WiFi turned off!
Maybe has to do with Airplane Mode? I'm turning that on and off again regularly (sometimes I do get mobile connection), so perhaps after turning it off again Locus might get confused? Because in "normal" life (when I don't have WiFi all the time), I can't remember that happening...

Seems everybody is enjoying sunny/rainy weather (that is at least now in central Europe), nice.

Fortunately seems that I did not miss, because of the small holiday I had, nothing important. Fine. So enjoy summer  !

Well, if you're looking for stuff to do, I'll take the oppourtunity and ask again for an improvement of map shading: We discussed this before, currently the map shading (hill shading) in Map Level 12 is much more detailed than in Level 13 (easy to see). You justified that with speed considerations, but that was years ago, phones are much faster. And I would be fine with an expert setting "Less detailed map shading from level X", so the user could decide for themselves whether their phone is fast enough for which level.
It's just a shame that your algorithm produces such good shading up to level 12 and then it's all a blur...

Anyway, I really think that contribution to OSM is a top priority. Maybe some easier integration with app like StreetComplete may be useful solution?

That sounds like an idea

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hehe, this is really old feature . It was in old times when the app used the so-called "Google Places API". The feature was removed because a) Locus violated Google's terms of use and b) service is now really over-priced.

I do remember that, but didn't want to bloat my post by mentioning this. But I would have assumed you removed that stuff with the new track screen, so I was surprised it even got an updated look, too

Online LoPoints now fully support opening times and once we switch offline LoPoints to the new system (not sure if this year), it will be available also offline.
The best how to get this into the app is by editing OpenStreetMap directly!

Editing in the app is doable, but is it really needed? Is there any reason to have opening times for any point in the app and do not have it in the OpenStreetMap data?

Well, for one thing, editing OSM data for many is still intimidating. And I'm more talking about points I added to my local database. I mean, on vacation I would see a restaurant that perhaps doesn't even have an OSM entry, so I add it to my database and want to add opening times for future reference (like, tomorrow ). If I first have to add the point to OSM with all data, and then how quickly will it appear in Locus?
If it were a LoPoint-only thing, ok - but right now when you add the point to your local DB, this data is copied, but not editable. Surely this is confusing to any user: There's things shown that is not editable.

And, my other point would be, that you could use the same argument for URL, phone and email fields - you still offer to edit them in Locus directly...

More a question than a report:
I recently noticed that a point I have in the database included Opening Times that were displayed specially, like in Google. That's very nice and useful, but I have no idea how that got there! I cannot edit this data in the Edit Point screen. I don't remember how I created that point, probably from LoPoints, but when I looked at the same point in LoPoint db, there were no Opening Times.
So, how did this data get there, and more importantly: How can I add them myself? Opening Times are what I most often put into the description field, and having them in a standard format that Locus can display accordingly ("Closed now", "Open until 9pm", etc.) would be just fantastic!!!

Lopoi offline can not be switched on. I activate it and it is displayed as enabled. Close the Map Content Panel and I do not see. Then I look in the Map Content Panel and it's off.

I have problem with online LoPoints. Never tried it before, and for me the eye icon stays on, but nothing is displayed.

Correction: It works depending on map.
OruxMaps db: NO
LoMaps: YES
OAM: Weird: First I had a LoMap, enabled LoPoints online -> shown. Switch to OAM -> some POI disappear, but some are shown. Turn off LoPoints and turn on again -> nothing shown

Didn't do acomnprehensive test, but it's definitely not working as expected/intended.

I think that new track screen is a bad idea. First of all previously user has choice between small pop-up and roll down, configurable list of options or full screen info. Now it is gone. This huge, half screen has less usefull info than previously smapp pop-up. No info about distance at selected point of track or distance to the end of the track. This data are available four click later at track analyzator. New screen works very bad for me, especialy when accidently tap sany track on screen. Scroll up animation and map shifting is anoying, track planer hidden in 3 dots menu etc. Is there Any chance to get back choice between new and old track detail info?

While I enjoy the new screen, especially the quick availability of a track chart, I understand your point. Menion said he first wants to implement the screen and then think about customization. Imho the customization should have the following aspects:

• Parts to show/hide
• Order of parts (below title, of course)
• Up to where the screen scrolls up initially

With that, you could customize a screen that only shows title and current position info initially, taking much less space, but still offers all the other info with an additional scroll.
Would you agree that'd be a solution?

PS: About the point info: I also proposed that the track chart should spell out the values for distance/altitude of current point in numbers. However, you only need one click on the icon in the lower left to get to the track point details, not four.

Menion, do you plan to overhaul the waypoints-in-tracks screen? For one thing, I'm definitely not the only one missing bulk delete. Also, I noticed that sometimes deleting doesn't work. Not sure how to reproduce it, but directly after I restarted Locus it's always OK. I think it's more likely to happen on tracks that I just copied.
Anyway, that dialog has some issues, so if you're planning to do something here anyway, please consider adding multi-delete and check the code for deletion... Thx!

I can also confirm a lag of 1 sec when tapping the main menu button. Because of that, using 3x5 functions grid is not really practicable for functions that are used quite often. This behaviour was always like this since LM4. No noticeable lags with other menus. I take my mobile to be quite fast, but in this fast changing world maybe I'm wrong

I also checked the menu content, but both devices (S9 and XCover Pro) have exactly the same entries. I also wouldn't say it's instant on the S9, but on the XCover it is annoyingly slow, especially, like you say, given it's "favorite" functions...

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I'm checking if there is any reason for a delay and can't see anything suspicious. Video does not help here, so do not waste a time on it. Does also other screens and dialogs "lags" (some noticeable slow-down)?

No, not that I remember. And there's no unnecessary net requests for the subscription status?

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Currently, it is ... correct. App by default specifies a background color that matches the current mode (dark/light). Anyway, there are maps (mainly vector maps with "theme") that have their own definition of the background color. And this is used no matter if dark/light is selected. I was thinking about working with this color as well, but I'm sure that preserving defined background color for vector map is the ideal solution.

Ok, as I said, it's fine with me, was just confusing at first.

1sec delay ... always? There was no change in the latest versions ...

Yes, on my S9 and Tab S5e the speed is normal, but on the XCover Pro it's always a lag of around 1s. I know it's a slower phone - but it's only the main menu... I think it's not new as such, may have been like that since Locus 4 (don't have LM3 installed there anymore, but I'm sure it was never that slow). Could it have to do with the "Gold" Status? Perhaps there's an additional query every time the menu opens?

Also, the "Map-screen content" sidebar visibly first opens a narrow white strip before the whole thing opens. Perhaps 50px wide. It's definitely not a "move-in effect", it's not smooth, and it's noticable on all my device (with differing speed, though).

I tried to do a screen recording, but you can't see when I tap anything, so it's not that helpful...