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Beta 4.0.21 version hard crash - but not reproduced yet:

- I created a track with the Route planner with only shaping points
- Saved it
- Opened it again, moved some points
- Saved again.

It was visible on the map. When clicking on it, Locus instantly crashed, Did not manage to open the new track screen. Locus crashed any time I clicked on this track.
Unfortunately I made a mistake and didn't export it, now it is deleted.

That's basically the same that happened to me, just with the addition of the sync problem (which obviously doesn't apply to you, as you made a new track). With me, the track edited with Route Planer also made Locus crash on click.
Menion said he's gonna have a look at it, so fingers crossed he can reproduce...

In a tracks context, the possibility to create embedded waypoints is needed and expected here (by me at least).

I've also always been arguing for adding that to the Track Editor, but Menion doesn't seem to believe in adding waypoints to tracks once they finished recording
Would be happy to be wrong, though...

Do I understand correctly. You want to make a waypoint to a track point. I do not desert for what. Do you have an example?

Well, "Waypoints" tab is part of all tracks. I use them all the time to mark special points and events during a recording. Same could be "general" POIs like "Restaurant", but some like "took off crampons here" are specific to the track. So waypoints make a lot of sense. And sometimes you forget them during recording, but you would like to add them later. While you can do that in the waypoint tab, they now don't have a timestamp anymore, which in cases like my example above are of interest. So adding a waypoint directly to a (timestamped) trackpoint makes a lot of sense. And from reading the threads here, I'm not the only one wishing for this...

But what I think about the track point. I create many track points (per language). To maintain OSM later. After uploading, I delete them all again. But I always have to select and delete each one individually (delete also confirm). Please make all selectable.

Agreed.

Few more things about the new track details:



• Thx for making the description selectable & copyable, as I asked for! While you're at it, why not make the title selectable, too?
• As has been noted above, simply having the waypoint icons there is, well, not so helpful. Tapping them should at least show their name, or even center them on screen.
• Also as noted above, wouldn't mind the description below the title. To save space without the header "Description", and perhaps only max. 2 lines, with a clickable "<more>" to expand if longer
• Some customization would be nice - I for example would like to slim it down by removing "Best interval"
• The crossing lines for the "current point" are nice to better gues the values - but why not display the actual values directly, too: "432m / 6.1km".
• I know, the left-most button takes you directly to the current trackpoint - but there should be the opposite, taking you back to the track.
Just my 2 cents - probably you already have some of those things in mind...

but frankly, what do you expect? As long as you didn't log the new device in with any account

@slarti76 - what do you expect? I expect something less confusing - as I tried to explain in step #3 I had logged in with the same account, so Locus should display "My Subscriptions" and not "Go Premium". Anyway, @Menion is aware of the issue. Thanks.

I apologize for the snarky answer from my side. Wasn't my day, shouldn't have written at all.

"Track rec visibility - auto hide"
Set via presets. Rec. button does not hide, at least while recording.

Isn't that exactly what you want? Optionally hide it when it's not recording, but when it is, keep it in view?

My understanding, too.

A bit older report, but just to confirm: No crashes anymore when opening Sync or returning to Sync dialog after Locus was in the background for a while.

Good news:
Beta from Play Store doesn't trigger sync anymore if only track preview updated, as discussed. Can put this to rest, thx 

I agree with Frivold and fraben: Finally I'm able to regularly contribute to the development of my favorite app! The business case behind "pay once, use forever" was always fishy, this is not sustainable, and people I think have been getting too used to this. But things are changing, and I really hope your calculations and assumptions pan out!
I'm a software engineer myself, but employed by a big company and only dabbled with mobile apps so far. I am quite intimidated at the thought of having my income depend on this. So very very good luck with this - I'll be getting my Gold as soon as I can

Don't wanna pressure, just for information: Do you have an estimate when sync can be tested again by everyone? Thx!

"As I remember, Menion wanted to not overstuff the preset system."

Wrong thinking 😁 IMO the preset system should be overstuffed. We use it to batch apply settings. To avoid to visit specific settings. I love to use presets and I totally dislike having to set map or theme manually...

I'm all with you here

Menion, is there a reason why Maps aren't part of the preset system? Would be useful IMO.
For best possible area overview I wanted to create a preset with the wonderful Asamm hike+bike map. But otherwise I use osm based vector maps + themes.

I second that. As I remember, Menion wanted to not overstuff the preset system. I also think that being able to chose a Map theme, but not a Map, is inconsistent. I assume the reason here is that themes can be used anywhere, but map may not be available for the current position. But so what, then the user has to pan, no big deal...
I would like to add Map Overlays, too. This is even more of a case for presets: While maps are just a single selection, overlays have several parameters (which one, alpha, blend mode), which is a pain to select each time. Would be great to have presets for your favorite overlays with the perfect settings.

Well, since you asked...  :-)     Imagine Mapsource, but web-based.  All your data (waypoints, tracks, saved routes, etc) in one spot, in an application where you can keep them organized (folders, groups, tags, whatever) on a 'big screen', and see them on a map, etc.  The data and changes made in the web-based application then sync to your device(s).
--SNIP--

@gcfishguy, you're basically explaining what the new Locus Web Interface does. You seem to have found the page (which is in Beta, mind you), and then you list all the features that are already there or are planned (see the other thread).

So people wonder: What do you want (more)?
Or are you just unhappy that the first version doesn't fulfil all of your dreams?

4 overall thoughts about new trackpoint screen:

How do I get there? Have newest beta, but in normal view as well as track editor, there's only the well-known tooltips on each point.Sorry, found it. Didn't have that menu point enabled...

3. Is now starving for a possibility to created an embedded WP from the current tp. But additionally "Add embedded WP" should also be in the tracks context menu, because it has a position.

Yes, yes, 1000x yes! Been hoping for this for ages...

I never considered the position of the zoom buttons as a problem. Buttons are connected to the big centering button, not directly to the center of the screen. So it depends on the screen resolution. But yes, usually they are close to the middle.

The color of the buttons is an interesting topic. A single color probably can't be always "perfect". I'll maybe try to play a little bit with shadows > thanks for the tip.

Controlling is a problem with gloves ... always. Hmm, what you need is close to the existing "Screen lock" function, except this completely disable all taps. Hmm ...

Doesn't everyone use the volume buttons with gloves?
That said, I also sometimes thought it would be great to have a "limited screen lock", where zooming and panning is possible, but no other interaction (except disabling the screen lock, obviously). During a tour, I often take out the phone to look at the map, and then I want to see what's ahead, but can't pan in Screen lock mode.
Dreaming on about this, why not hide all buttons and stuff in screen lock? They are useless and give the wrong impression they are active. Then screen lock would be just the map over the full display, allowing zooming and panning, and of course the slide from the left to deactivate it. Whatcha think?

It should already work in this Beta version if I remember correctly.

Was that in reply to my remark about having the same extra values below the two-finger-measurement-line as we now have in the "Cursor to position"-line? Because in the current beta (4.0.0-Beta1), that is not the case, the two-finger-measure-line only has a distance on top of the line.

Search options, mine has angle as well.

Ok, I found it, sorry. It's not that obvious that it's under "map lines"...