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• after entering {t} manually yesterday and being astonished to not able to select predefined values, also Michael told about it,I recognised today that there's an Add-Button. A bit off-positioned for my taste, but maybe I'm not aligned
• I once created some profiles for certain activities. Any chance to set or change the activity without creating a new profile? keep in mind: I tend to overlook buttons

@Tapio: is this the new 'automatically loaded address in point detail'?
I have a different result with tracks and trackpoints though. Navigation arrows are followed by 'to end/from start', followed by category location. No address.

I can understand Menions sense for structure and ordering, but yes, space is rare..

LoPoints-experience and the partially illogical logic noted on page 3 https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7496.30#lastPost and month ago.
Must be more confusing for people not that experienced with LM though.

Thanks for the video ... what's its point? 

mostly the crash & situation of no-sensor-setup, possible optimising dialogs
even though sort of lame

beta 1032
- I do not have special Sensors, sorry
- quick walk-through from bottom>top  https://drive.google.com/file/d/17gHtmkV3PRVfsEIuIuId9h9KgQV68cH2/view?usp=drivesdk
- LM4 crashes if top-entryis selected (thereforeI start@bottom)
- nice to see max-fullscreen back again - Thanks!

MIUI offers the option of hiding the navigation bar for certain apps. But Locus does not react to this setting.

I suggest to not use those specialties as this might bring nightmares to Menion to deal with all those gimmicks with potential misbehaviours, cornercases, whatever..

  this black top-panel is more a trade-off to real-fullscreen(c). What was the pain about going completely full? Maybe compatability throughout the Android-universe..
Well my system panels have partially transparency, so I can decide dropping bottom and gaining that black top-stripe or having panels with light look+feel. Yeah, isn't having choices the thing about customisation..

@fullscreen: have there been changes?
could swear it was at maximum, even at top above my frontcam-notch..to the screen-edge. Now there's the black bar which has the size of the top-systembar, like your screenie Menion.
Cannot tell if this happened by disabling and enabling the fullscreen-settings or by possible beta-changes.

switched to new beta 4.3.2.3 1029.
For some 10-seconds I had system buttons panel without left button, only middle and right visible. Wanted to take a screenshot but it changed to the normal panel, usual,correct one at some point.
Nevermind, works like a charm, but maybe it helps

re t-mo...
Lopoints generally deserve fundamental rework (ui, workflow, filtering, category presets etc etc) IMO, but it's all a question of dev time. To me that would rank at #1 of bigger projects.

sure, definitely needs plannings and time
I recognised that dimming map to highlight LoPoints-overlay would also be helpful (as a method to temporarily higher the contrast of LoPoints<>background, as punch-in-action)

Changed to the new fullscreen, really love that maximum experience
No problems occured so far, system buttons appearing nicely with drop-down of top of screen together with the android-statusbar/notificationbar.

Realised that i- icons are missing with LoPoints (offline): Acco>Guesthouse, FoodDrink> Biergarten, Shopping>Farm..
Honestly, the whole point-experience need some attention, put some eye-symbols with numbers next to each entry, next to groups, etc. Like points or tracks..
Show screen contents > LoPoints(offline)>eye-symbol directly activates 'Points around, not sth reg. content and visibility..very special and irritating. That feature should be available via longpress IMHO.
Well, nothing new at all, don't remember correctly. Maybe needs some try and use in RL-scenarios, unknown environment etc.

L 4.3.2, Android11

[@Andrew Heard]

@Andrew Heard, @T-moWhat comes to my mind > option to display "itinerary" directly in the new track detail (as another option in the bottom menu). With this, you should also check the detailed navigation itinerary with Route planner > Menu > Route stats > itinerary. It this a possible solution for you?

sure

1010_beta

• black theme - in usage since weeks, months, no issues so far, except the black-map-background
• new track/point details - with points the 'location' (coordinates) should be top-most, currently below 'details' (folder)

[@Andrew Heard]

@Andrew Heard
Both "itineraries" have different use-case. In the route planner, it is mainly about the option to see all segments on one screen and the option to change easily it's order. In the active navigation route planner, it is about a common itinerary known from bigger navigation apps. It should be read-only and give quick overview of what will come.
Can't imagine how to merge them to be true 

I guess Andrew meant:
- RoutePlanner-iternary being an parameter-list (input, via-points)
- Navigation-iternary being an calculated result-list (output)(containing the via-points as used constraints)
Currently you see the (calculated) results in
- RoutePlanner as drawn route > graphics only
- after starting navigation as route & iternary > graphics + table
even though it's in both situation already calculated.
In RoutePlanner maybe without fetching road-names.
With having the full result you can better decide whether to use it or not..if you started the process of navigation, it's not that easy to step back.
Maybe you are in unknown territory and someone gives you some hints, use a certain  street, whatever..

Currently you have to do some clicks and cannot go back and forth easily.

In my opinion the iternary could gain some structure and styling to clearly differ between input-points and calculated parts between
- shaping point 1
-  road/segment 1
-  road/segment 2
- ..
- shaping point 2
-  road/segment 1
- ...
- shaping point 3

maybe collapsable 

short feedback: after trying several times with each LM4 RCs and drop in vibrations, LM4 final made LocusStore and subscription working. Hallelujah!
Must have been some sort of Easter egg

Is your "Android System WebView" component up to date? Play Store. There was a widespread crash problem recently.

yes, it's that recent update of the problem-update, it's 89.0.4389.105. Thanks.
LocusPro-Store works by the way. I'll wait, sth.'s wrong somewhere, no nerves for install-tests currently