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It is clearly visible to me how (almost) everyone here thinks... it's expected ... "I need this, dot".

Nah, I think most of us are aware about many more aspects like UI clutter, change of functionality vs. user behaviour, multiple wishes resulting in additional options, resulting in software complexity... But it is not useful to always write walls of text.

So my approach now and here is: I WANT THIS, PERIOD 😁

I voted "Long click on "+" button: add manual segment between last point > map center"
Because: a) I don't need what's currently on longclick+. and b) I think it is a rather regularly used function and we achieve a lot of convenience. Very good icitiative from lor74cas.

If this is implemented, @Menion can also allow to hide the manual profile just like the other profile types.

In the latest version of Alpha and Beta, is it no longer possible to use automatic route planning from a starting point based on a specified distance?

You mean that automatic route creation tool, indeed it is missing. BTW, something similar, a bit more sophisticated, is here: https://maps.openrouteservice.org

What I see in the test version is not bad. I still can keep the screen free from elements. It's still the complex and capable app I love. Very much appreciate the new point approach. The UI changes I see are a small thing for me. I just wish the poi database, pois in general would get more love.
I must  honestly say my thoughts about Locus Alpha are more and more "after all, not much can change and will change". Not bad for me personally.
I feel Menion is having a hard time to bring changes in software and payment system to life. And I wish them success. Locus = Most important Android app for me.

Many users, - relatives - including my wife, only use what they see directly.
E. g. if there is a core functionality inside a menu, submenu or wherever, they never use it or know about the existence of it.
Have already experienced it. In an ebook reader, they may never change font. Never change a wordwrap setting. My wife even never changed the ipads brightness.
If they turn wifi off, "internet is broken since a couple of days". Quote of my father-in-law.

I'm usually rather speechless. I think it is quite common that nobody looks what an app/the os is capable of.

imo the worst case user == average case user.

I didn't follow the whole discussion. As for the bhttons and toolbars, I'm all for maximum flexibility, ie every function can be everywhere. A good default setup for newbies, a good UI for configuration, maybe Ui presets. just my preference.

I agree, stable version is in a good shape, quite perfect.

Vertical inverse order of sidebar is confusing.
Tbh, that round button looks sexy, but I don't need it.
Map screen content button is a good move.
Top bar is quite useless currently.
Allow for hiding anything via a double tap, or after timeout!
Allow to add more than 8 user def. main menu entries.

Bottom left main menu is alright. Stylistically it looks good.

If the top bar will be editable as it is now, we need empty spaces that we can add optionally. Reason: notch areas which reach into the top bar, on newer Smartphones if turned on.

I rarely need zoom buttons and prefer the way it is, or at least allow to hide them as it's possible with the toolbars.

[but not on navigation/guidance]

I was surprised, Locus is able to turn on GPS if it needs it - but not on navigation/guidance? Should be included IMO.

Awesome, new beta with navigation track color change. I like it.

Beta tts speaks czech again...

[usw]

The Mate 20 X is awesome. Great performance and a battery with its 5000 mAh beast. Did not test longer periods of track recording, but I'm convinced it will work. Have added Locus to the power management exceptions etc... And track recording seems to be more precise than my Sony Z1 because it uses more satellite systems. Yesterday it say about 40 satellites at the same time...

I did a lot of v4 map switching and they all load quickly. No white boxes etc. I am happy about the vector map system again. There's just that text bug (cut text) on first load of area, as John already mentioned. Thx for your hard work!

3.38.3 first start with nullpointer exception and no map loading. Subsequent starts ok and look like v4 vector maps work again. Slower as v3 maps but acceptable. Edit: not even sure about this. I'd say GOOD JOB MENION. A big step forward. I am finally and exclusively using v4 maps and themes.
Expecting more bugs since this 3.38 is a big update.

Many thanks that we can turn off map smoothness. It's more transparent and direct this way.

And it runs great on my meanwhile very outdated Sony Z1.