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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map 4, discussion

« on: September 26, 2020, 10:49:26 »

New beta: Had to uninstall prev. beta. Then installation worked. But settings are all gone now. Have to reconfigure, eeeek.
Edit: Ok, used a recent backup which were made from the beta branch.
It's unfortunately not as easy as just doing a restore. E. g., access to ext. SD is lost and has to be reconfigured. But probably nothing that can be done on Locus side.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.48.+ ( 28. 8. 2020 )

« on: September 22, 2020, 15:27:17 »

Empty folders in "Map items" - cannot delete them. It allows to, but the folders stay.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.48.+ ( 28. 8. 2020 )

« on: September 19, 2020, 07:15:33 »

"Unsuccessful Backup" notification. 2:01 am. But there is a zip file from 2:01 and it seems OK.

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 15, 2020, 15:46:36 »

Someone else mentioned it, on an otherwise working sync I see an intermediate exclamation mark on Locus main hamburger menu.

I have tested the new version now, and i like it very much! But one thing is missing, when I tap on a point in map, then I don't get the context-menu, that I am used to. (Fex guide too, detail etc).

Same what I saw? I missed the ... menu on embedded waypoints in tracks. No easy way to delete embedded WP.

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 14, 2020, 11:18:39 »

I can totally feel what MichaelBechtold is saying. Currently, the user cannot see what is about to happen and what is stored on server side. Backup/sync means a lot of complexity after all.
I am speaking very general. Experience is telling us, there will be a lot confusion, (assumed) data loss etc... A lot of users in need of support. Lots of pain for the dev side. I think it is crucial that a user can easily see/understand what exactly will happen to the data after he presses "sync".

Just one aspect of the pain: I am convinced users will at first understand this as a backup system, as it is happening with RAID systems. So when they accidentally delete a track on client side, they likely expect to get it back via a sync -which will not happen. Which will delete on server side as well.

You opened pandoras box  

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 12, 2020, 10:14:21 »

I wouldn't call it "backup" btw. - It syncs deletions to server. With the term backup, people would eg. expect to get accidentally deleted tracks back - which is not possible.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.48.+ ( 28. 8. 2020 )

« on: September 11, 2020, 09:02:10 »

"Backup not successful" notification. Unfortunately I swiped it away. I see a working zip file from this morning, it seems OK.

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 09, 2020, 18:17:01 »

I wanted to test syncing behaviour if I delete embedded WP from tracks.

a) Locus crashes/restarts when I delete an embedded WP. No sync.

b) Not related to syncing. Embedded Waypoints, unlike normal POI, cannot be deleted directly via the new POI screen. Makes their handling more clunky.

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 09, 2020, 17:49:15 »

The web planner could be very useful. I am really hoping for an easy to use/ nonspace wasting UI (having brouter-web in mind, it's unmatched IMO).

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 09, 2020, 08:53:45 »

I waited for an auto sync at first, but it did not do it. I think it should have tried it again.

Manual sync worked, thx.

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 09, 2020, 07:14:38 »

Not sure about the defaults. It's in Locus working directory (see misc settings).. /data/database/
I suggest you backup this folder. Or just create a backup.

My Locus instances use distinct paths.

@Menion, Locus UI does not display the  working dir. Just "SD card" is not enough.

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 08, 2020, 16:15:55 »

New version, it happened after track deletions.

And let me add: congrats for going public after probably a lot of hard work.

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 08, 2020, 16:08:47 »

OK I learned client side changes, also deletions, are synced to the server.

A crash happened.

- Everything was in sync.
- I deleted all tracks in a folder
- Locus started auto sync as set
- Locus disappeared
- Started it again, top left notification visible again, crash
- Then it was possible to start

Initial ideas.
a) Track/point/folder overlays if in sync
b) Different modes. "Upload only, download only, mirror device to cloud, mirror cloud to device"

Haha, thx for your effort, I guess you opened a can of worms here. 😉

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 08, 2020, 15:44:32 »

Thx for explaining. Don't get me wrong, I trust you, my basic concern usually is, services get exploited and at some point we may find big data dumps available publicly - it always happens here and there... Well it's all about risk management,,, some stuff is OK for me to reside on the other end, other stuff only in encrypted form (with only me as the key owner).

But hey, since Alpha is having its own db here, I just remove "sensitive" folders and then sync.

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Locus Map (4+) / Re: Locus Map - cloud/sync server

« on: September 08, 2020, 14:18:57 »

OK I have my own backup strategy and will not upload my database - in my case my whole movements - unencrypted to a 3rd party. Would only do that if encryption/decryption was transparent and client side.
But I'd participate in testing if I could pick specific folders in my database for syncing - is that possible?