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Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.5.+ ( 1. 12. 2021+ )
« on: Today at 19:39:22 »
Understand, but instead of poor backup over exported files, there exist two a lot better options!
1) sync system we offer under Gold subs
2) or good old automatic backup to SD card or any cloud service. "backup" is the only directory that may be placed anywhere, so use it!

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Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.5.+ ( 1. 12. 2021+ )
« on: Today at 15:46:03 »
Why is the "export" directory important? Does it make difference if exported data are in the internal or external private directory? I'll look at it later. I believe that "export" should be improved in a similar way like "backup" works > so directly into the root of int/ext storage. It will just need a little more work ...

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Discussion/New features / Re: Android 11+, changes
« on: Today at 15:14:57 »
"root" ... oki  :)

This topic is partially covered in the new version topic, but it still has its purpose > focus on the file-system. So cross-post to new Beta: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7632.msg65883#msg65883 ... if you find a moment, give it a try and test new "maps" and "mapsOnline" setup if it works as expected. Thanks guys!

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Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.5.+ ( 1. 12. 2021+ )
« on: Today at 15:13:18 »
New Beta MapGooglePlay_4.5.0.1_1046_beta

Changes
- support for maps & mapsOnline directories movable between internal/external private directories
- alternative version of the turn off method, more in news, needs to enable in bottom of expert settings & field tests



@michaelbechtold
1) hard to say, there should not be check you describe, but seems it will need a special version with some special logs ....
2) for anything other then selected directories? (now backup, all kind of maps, srtm)

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Discussion/New features / Re: Android 11+, changes
« on: Today at 10:28:25 »
@balloni55
Adding OAM is easy thanks to integrated direct download from OAM to Locus. Just use the method that directly downloads maps from the web, not manually.

@michaelbechtold
As I wrote before:

File-browsers with "External storage" permissions can usually

- read/write to all directories in the root of internal/external memory

- read/write to all app private directories (Android/data/) in the internal memory thanks to the small known hack (that I believe will be patched in one of the coming Android versions). So not all filebrowsers are able to do this!

- read (maybe), but 100% no write to all app private directories (Android/data/) in the external storage.
There is no known method that is able to bypass Android integrated security for now.

From our internal testing, you may easily connect the phone with a cable to the PC and copy data manually over the PC! No need to ADB!!



Thanks for the detailed long post. We will think about possible improvements.

Slowness you and others noticed will be most probably caused by the computing of "Used disk space". With the new Google system this tiny operation took really loooong. Unfortunately. I'll look at it.

App Data Transfer: there are two entries with the same title doing opposite things. Not good.
Where?

But how on earth can Locus WRITE to the root folder? Is that the grandfathering of an existing installation?

Would this go away after a re-install?
I'm a little out of context here, sorry. A better explanation is needed.

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Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.5.+ ( 1. 12. 2021+ )
« on: December 01, 2021, 22:36:08 »
Do a backup of whole "Locus" folder if you want to be sure.

Anyway, you understand it well. Based on the push in the last few days, I was looking at how to do it and found that it won't be so hard at all. So now, the app offers move of custom directories with new options and it looks like this (check screenshot).

On the A11+, the third option won't be available of course.

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Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.5.+ ( 1. 12. 2021+ )
« on: December 01, 2021, 21:44:31 »
Sure ...

Situation is:
- you have installed any of the older versions running on so-called API 29 (so anything before 4.5.0)
- then you update on any new version 4.5.0+
- system grants a special exception to this "update"! to access app old data in the root of the external memory. I was not able to find out if there is any time limit, but I think it isn't. This exception is not granted for new installs. So in case, you re-install the app, it lost this kind of access.
- question is, if any future update of the app does not remove this exception as well, I hope it doesn't. Anyway, because it is not described correctly on Google dev sites, we rather push users to transfer data into private dir as soon as possible.

Is my explanation clear?

Btw. did you notice that the latest version allows moving "mapsVector" into SD card/private directory?

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Locus Map / [APP] - version 4.5.+ ( 1. 12. 2021+ )
« on: December 01, 2021, 21:06:00 »
New Locus Map (4) version

Important links
- short list of news of public versions
- Blog post (in preparation...)
- Public versions
- Beta versions

Versions
1. 12. 2021 - Locus 4.5.0

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Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.4.+ ( 23. 9. 2021+ )
« on: December 01, 2021, 21:03:33 »
Hmm ... these were a damn hard two months for me  ::)

Final version generated (almost identical to the latest Beta version) and published for 10% of users on Google Play (Locus Map 4 only). On Monday, where there won't be any serious problem, I'll publish it for the rest of the users.

Thanks for the help as usual! I Hope, you will excuse my pauses in answers, the file system took almost all my time.

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Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.4.+ ( 23. 9. 2021+ )
« on: December 01, 2021, 19:08:22 »
@tapio
ah, it crashes directly here upon selection. Hmm, I'm starting to have an idea why this happens and I'm a little worried it won't be easily solvable. Pack them to the zip and import this zip file for now. It should work without a problem.

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Discussion/New features / Re: Android 11+, changes
« on: December 01, 2021, 19:06:12 »
@tapio
exactly this is what I've discovered a few days ago. Access to int/Android/data may be obtained by the small hack and Locus Map uses it to transfer data between Pro and 4 versions. Seems to be a security hole in Android to be true.

On SD card, this hack does not work and there is no known method how to access app private data stored on the SD card as I know.

This also answers @balloni55 post above.

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Locus Map / Re: [APP] - version 4.4.+ ( 23. 9. 2021+ )
« on: December 01, 2021, 15:14:13 »
Interesting Tapio, I see no issues under this ID! Only what I've found is a user with the similar ID "1aacaff2a2", but there is no often serious crash during last days.

The crash during import happens always right during/after the import itself? If, then it should be replicable on my own device if you are willing to share this zip with me. Thanks!

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Hi,
this feature currently does not have any extra settings that may affect its appearance.

I may anyway modify it globally if it will make sense and will be "better" for most of the users compare to the current state. Any suggestions?

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Discussion/New features / Re: Android 11+, changes
« on: December 01, 2021, 14:34:38 »
To be true, I expect the opposite. Working with points/tracks is usually one time ... a load of a bunch of points, save the single track, hide a few points etc. On the second side, maps are loading every time you work with the app ... anyway I fully support database data on the internal memory, mainly because of possible data loss due to malfunction of SD card.


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Discussion/New features / Re: Android 11+, changes
« on: December 01, 2021, 14:21:31 »
@michaelbechtold
we all are well aware this is the problem (Android 11+ limitations). On the second side, to be true, I'm still not convinced, this may be a major break in the app usability. I'm looking forward to next week when we finally find the correct answer.

Topic & voting: I've expected, it may be a task that should take quite a lot of time, that I currently do not have. So voting may help me better decide if this isn't the idea of just a few people here on the forum ...

Another fact is, that most Androids are NOT Pixels. But rather the majority employs external SD card support, to allow for cheaper storage extension.
This is based on known facts? We are talking about devices with Android 11. Most of the modern devices are created with bigger internal memory instead of support for external SD cards. Sure, SD cards are usually 4x time cheaper, I know. Also, I made just a quick benchmark, and LoMaps from the SD card (average class 10 card) is 9x slower than LoMaps from the internal storage. You are the one who fights for faster maps ...

@slarti76
Manual updated a lot, hope for good.

@Žajdlík Josef
Understand. To have fast maps, it will be necessary to limit number of maps on the device. As I wrote above, SD card, no matter what I do, will never be too fast.



New version MapGooglePlay_4.4.3.31 RC_1045 just published.

It should have mainly
- option to move mapsVector and SRTM directories to the private directory on the external storage (SD card)
- integrated links to manual pages

Let me please know mainly if this nighly update in custom directories will work correctly for all of you. Thanks

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