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Are you aware of
http://bluestacks.com/
?

Hi,

This looks promising, have you tried Locus on Bluestacks?

regards
Christian

Is it possible to see the data/routes from openmtbmap in the cycle-map as well? Do I need to adapt the theme and integrate mtb:scale and mtb:description? Or has the map not the necessary data for this?

Hi,

The Data is currently not included in the Cyclemaps, and to be honest - around my hometown there are dozends of MTB-Routes.
Only two are included in the OSM-Dataset so I have not invested major afforts in resolving these routes.

Next Winter I will take a look at this issue, its not an easy task because unlike to Garmin Maps there is NO tool for Android
to resolve the OSM-Dataset, all resolving have to be handcoded and preprozessed in Perl.

We can make a deal - you tag all MTB-Routes in the Waldviertel (NorthWest of Austria) and I code the MTB-Maps      

best regards
Christian

Hello,

This is the original high-contrast Theme from http://www.openandromaps.org.

See thread : //http://forum.asamm.cz/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1990

The latest update V1.21 include icons in two different sizes for cycle_shop, toilets and drinking_water adapted to the zoom levels.
In addition Glaciers are now rendered as pattern (request from a biker travelling through Iceland this summer)

The Theme is clear focused on cycling, the color of the major roads are dimmed down, contourlines are displayed as dotted lines,
Icons for cycls_shops, toilets, pharmacy, drinking_water etc.. are rendered beginning at low zoom-level.

For hikers the volatile or hiking theme would probably be the better choice.

I would ask to include this theme in your shop, its free for use, share, modification.

best regards
Christian

[attachment=1:mwlyxoj9]cycle_hc.zip[/attachment:mwlyxoj9]

for me in the UK, vector maps are a 2nd choice to the Ordnance survey maps, for effective navigation and most importantly SAFETY!

I perfect agree with you,

I spent many summers in Scotland, always with GPS AND OS-Maps, I would never ever rely on a smartphone while walking in Scottish Mountains.
Concerning contour lines: The Alpstein Maps for Austria have a smoothed contourset too, not always very pleasing in rocky areas.

best regards
Christian

Ok, Thanks.

Hi,

While I promissed my wife that I will stay away from the computer during summer, the idea to expand my tools for hiking routes is fixed in my brain.
Please be patient, there is so much work that have to be done, the possibilitys are endless.

I will have to talk to Mappers and Hikers+Climbers whats their demand, what standard theme do they use (SAC, OEAV, Kompass, swissmap....) aso.
For me the rendering has to be seperated into colouring of route type (iwn,nwn....) and clear identification of dificult grade...

However, the first step would be a logging tool to analyse the (real-world) tagging conventions beeing used by mappers.
Setting the ruleset for cycling routes was basicly straight forward, I coded this with one eye on the OCM, for hiking I have to find a similar, existing map or defining my own standard.

best regards
Christian

btw: whats your favorite hiking area, up to which difficult-grade do you walk, if I supply a pre-release-map of your favorite  area (later this summer) could you check it (way by way)?

Please send me a PN

Hi folks,

I added the cycle routes to Volatile theme.

[attachment=1:2s3k9tex]Cycleroutes.png[/attachment:2s3k9tex]

Hi,

Congratulations, well done  :!:  !

Christian

great work. could this also be applied to hiking routes? also are you interested in making your tool available for others to build custom naps, i often build my own maps with specific contours.

Hello Col,

The tools are not for the public, they contain no error-check, not even a check against wrong params these are fed only by "shift" into the programm.
It would take many weeks to release a stable version.

Concerning hiking routes: The answer is Yes and NO.

Yes: look at the attached screenshots, the red lines are the international and national hiking routes of austria, the coloring is similar to the cycle routes.
No: There are a lots of issues concerning the difficulty of the hiking routes. Basicly they should contain a tag named "sac_sale" = swiss alpine club difficult rating.
However, some ways are tagged some not, I checked the ways and fixed rope routes I personly know and .... well....
I dont want to led somone into a fixed rope route where the way is tagged as simple hiking way, this is a serious security issue.

best regards
Christian

@All
Thanks for your kind replies and please don't hesitate to post if you have problems with the maps (beside the known issues) - I rely on your feedback to improve my tools.

@jurajs
Robbery is Ok ;-) but Im afraid you find anything in the Theme that you dont know already.

best regards
Christian

Sorry I think I have just found the answer here //http://forum.asamm.cz/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1946

So do these new maps contain all the data in jurajs' maps plus cycle routes, or do I need both maps because they both have unique features?

Hi, both maps contain elevation data, only the maps from www.openandromaps.org contain the data for the cycle routes.
Basicly these two maps should contain the same data, (except the cycle tags) but there may be some minor differences concerning the zoom-apperance of some pois and roads.

Try jurajs hiking-theme on the cycle maps and check the appearance of roads and pois.

best regards
Christian

Hello,

Finally Mapsforge based cyclemaps with contourlines are available for download.

Many weeks of coding led to a tool that completly rewrites the OpenStreetMap
dataset concerning the cycle relations bevore its feed into the Mapsforge mapwriter.

The quality of the routes is very,very close to the OpenCycleMap.

I'v set up a website with basic informations
- how to install them
- a map legend
- a high contrast render theme

Everone is encouraged to improve the render theme, its pretty easy.
Only ONE additional key with 8 values have to be rendered.
(Netherlands + Belgium need a second one for the cycle nodes)

A pefect base for a transparent theme would be jurajs hiking theme.

The maps are 100% compatible with the osmarender theme.
The borders of the maps are different from the OSM clipbounds,
eg. for Austria I added the border aera of the czech-republic, the NeusiedlerSee, complete Bodensee, Bratilslava, Deutsches Eck etc..

Big countrys are splitt into logical parts (France, Germany) doe to the limtations of my equipment.

If there is realy need of an additional communication platform I will set up a forum,
but - honestly I will try to avoid this.
Locus, Orux and Naviboard forums should be OK at a first glance.

So, now its time for me to start my training, the making of these maps added 4kg to my hips  :shock: , maybe we will meet outdoors  8-)

So, here you can find the maps: //http://www.openandromaps.org

best regard, a plesant summer, happy cycling, walking, paddling or whatever  :mrgreen:
Christian aus der Wachau


Update 2012-06-17

- Added Maps for Portugal and Spain
- All files moved back to GDrive doe to registration issues with Skydrive


Major Update 2012-06-16

- All Maps are updated with the newest OSM Dataset
- New process ensures accurate contourlines at the map borders
- France_South now contains the whole Pyraenes

- Render Theme for Locus updated, better Icons for Toilets and Water sources, some minor improvements

- QR-Codes added for direct download to Smartphone, however - I recommend to download the maps to PC, uncompress the files and upload by USB to phone.
- Most Maps are moved from GDrive to Skydrive


Update 2012-06-04

New German Maps: instead of 3 parts (North,Mid,South) the new maps are combined to North/South upon user request. The Maps already contain the additional cycle ways as mentioned below.


UPDATE 2012-05-30:
An user postet an issue concerning not correct rendered cycle ways in his area:

Problems:
- the designated cicle lanes: the key was to catch k="bicycle" v="designated" [done]
- pseudo relations: this was the first time I have seen them, some ways with keys like lcn=yes and rcn=yes are rendered in the OCM like route relations [done]

With the next mapping run (in a few weeks doe to my limited bandwidth) all maps will have the new resolving.

Wenns klappt geh ich das dann "vernünftig" an.

Eine ernst    gemeinte Warnung:

Das Ganze hat Suchtpotential, ich bin diesen Frühsommer 5 Wochen hinter meinem Trainingsplan - mein Weibchen wird mich bei den ersten Bergtouren gar fürchterlich versägen  :roll:

grüsse
Christian aus der Wachau

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Für Einsteiger könnte diese Angabe ohne nähere Erklärung oder einem Beispiel etwas schwer nachvollziebar sein.
So gut die Lösung auch ist...

 8-)  Tschuldigung, ist völlig richtig -  mit Tapatalk soll't man sowas nicht machen...

Hier ein Beispiel für "bakery" , das funktioniert mit allen pois analog.
Als erstes muss man eine custom theme anlegen (so nicht schon vorhanden), es gibt mittlerweile einige hier im Forum.
Wenn die originale theme ausreichend ist muss sie trotzdem (anders benannt) als custom theme installiert werden
da die originale fix in Locus verdrahtet ist.

Wie komme ich an die originale theme?
- Die viewer-app von Mapsforge runterladen: //http://mapsforge.googlecode.com/files/AdvancedMapViewer.apk
- umbenennen in AdvancedMapViewer.zip, jetzt kannst Du die app als normale Dateistruktur betrachten (ich empfehle dafür den TotalCommander)
- Die theme ist in AdvancedMapViewer.ziporgmapsforgeandroidmapsrenderthemeosmarender
- rauskopierren, unbenennen
- die pfade in der osmarender.xml anpassen
= Suchen/ersetzen von "jar:/org/mapsforge/android/maps/rendertheme/osmarender/" zu "file:/"
- abspeichern, in locus installieren


Die Symbole :

Dann einfach 2 verschieden grosse Symbole ertellen
- eins mit zB 20/20 pixel grösse
- eins mit zB 32/32 pixel grösse

oder ein vorhandenes aus dem /symbol folder vergrössern oder verkleinern und eindeutig benennen,
die entsprechende Rule in der [theme].xml kopieren und mit den zoom-min[max] tags versehen.

Im unten stehenden Beispiel wird das grössere Symbol ab dem zoom-level 16 wirksam, das kleinere gilt von level 13-15, wobei die Angabe von zoom-min="13" eigentlich unnötig ist da da kleine Symbol ohnehin erst ab level 13 dargestellt wird (definiert in der tag-maping.xml).

EDIT: Die meisten Symbole werden erst ab level 16-17 dargestellt, das kann man nur ändern wenn man die Karte selbst neu estellt nachdem die tag-mapping.xml angepasst wurde - aber das ist ein _ganz_ anderes Thema....

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<rule e="node" k="shop" v="bakery" zoom-min="13" zoom-max="15">
           <symbol src="file:/symbols/bakery_20.png" />
</rule>
<rule e="node" k="shop" v="bakery" zoom-min="16">
           <symbol src="file:/symbols/bakery_32.png" />
</rule>

Für arbeiten an xml-datein empfehle ich den Notepad++, ist kostenlos und kann mit UTF8 sauber umgehen.

Klingt fürs Erste ev. kompliziert, ist aber wirklich kein Problem wenn man es erst mal gemacht hat.

Grüsse
Christian aus der Wachau

Die Lösung ist einfach;

verschieden grosse symbole erstellen und den jeweiligen zoom_leveln zuweisen.
Normalerweise reichen 2 grössen.

best regards
Christian

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@Christian/kech61: Could this be the same  problem as discussed here: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mapsf ... discussion

Thanks, thats it.

So we have to live with this issue, no real problem so far.

best regards
Christian

Hello,

I found a problem when switching between zoom-levels:

The render rules of "Pathtext" are sometimes ignored,
I set different font-sizes (for roads and cycle routes) for the zoom-levels and these are (sometimes) ignored, this means the size for the lowest zoom leves stays active for all levels.
Most of the time this problem could be solved by switching to a an other map, clearing locus-cache and switching back.

@menion: could you take a look at this issue - thanks.

best regards
Christian