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Quote from: "menion"firstly - interesting issue. Don't know what can cause this. If you can, upload here one database category that not work on N1, and I'll try to look at it ...

about comparision: amazing list!! :). Have to take some time and read it carefully. It looks you had a loooong day :)

  Ok, so just take first part ... "Waypoint list"
- filtering and sorting, I was working on this yesterday and today so will be improved a little in next version
- Searching waypoints - what you mean by this? You mean searching for cache by cache ID or name, or searching for cache additional waypoints? Because this first is there, second not

 and the second ... "Waypoint maintenance"
- importing updates - yes
- maintain user data - yes
- waypoint averaging - for this exist additional application called GPS Averaging, that cooperate directly with locus
Okay, I give, how do you search for waypoints?  I've tried menu, search button, etc..  while in the Points for a catalog.  That's where I'd expect it to work?  EDIT:  Okay, I see, (the physical phone hard button) search button works on Map screen.  Can you add that to the Points screen?  :)  Or maybe everywhere?  Also, my tablet does NOT have a (physical hard button) Search button at all, but I was at least able to add the Locus soft Search button to the map.

For importing, a really important item is expiring stale items..  For geocaches you never know (in terms of PQ) when a cache has been archived except by its absence in the PQs.  Needs to be some way to identify and remove these stale caches from the list.  Show all not updated for N days maybe?  geOrg does this on import, optionally..  if a cache has not been updated in N days in the database you're importing data into (ie:  it's not in the PQ), it'll remove it.  At least I think that's what it's doing, regardless, if a cache is "older than N days" it can remove them, thus keep the list clean of archived caches.

I've attached a test database.  Simple test I'm doing is just going to the Categories and clicking the box to show all in there, and I get a FC out of Locus because the DB is read-only.
Quote from: "menion"fine, if you'll have some time, it will be welcome :) ... thank you!

Quiet day at work, don't tell my boss ;)

Here's the list..  It's not a full function list of either app, but rather the functions I use often in caching.  GeOrg has more function than this, Locus has more function etc, but just specific to geocaching here.

Hopefully it make sense, let me know if any items are not clear.  I have them color coded, the coding is on the right side.  Items in Blue are items I need to answer (ie: try in real life etc) or I'm looking for feedback from you.  Short list:  You're right, 98% there.  Needs waypoint averaging for new caches, a way to remove stale caches (ie: those who have not been imported in N days).  Also, I'm seeing no way to search for a particular waypoint, I need that.  Some other like-to-have's in there. ... E&hl=en_US

One thing I want to immediately bring up though..  I've discovered that all of my databases on my phone are READ ONLY and this really pisses off Locus and makes it impossible to update anything.  If I create a new database, no problem.  I think I know the reason, hopefully you can help out here.  I download all of my data on my tablet (2.2.2, stock Dell Streak 7 Wifi), and also import most of my GPX type data into the tablet.  It's obviously easier to do, more screen space, faster, larger battery etc..  So then I exit Locus, run an rsync script which pushes my entire Locus directory up to my Linux workstation.  Then I have an rsync script which pulls it down into my phone (2.2.1, Enom custom ROM, Nexus One).  I've done this with BCN for a long time, although on BCN since everything was tiles etc, the process was faster when I was updating a smallish area.  With Locus, it has to download the entire database.  Not too big a deal.  But it seems to be doing something wonky when I do this and can't write to the databases anymore.  I can't import, I can't add more map cache data, I can't toggle visibility, etc etc..

Any idea what's going on there?  They should be exact copies between the Tablet and Phone on the sd card.  I'm not syncing anything in /data or such.  So the ids, keys etc whatever you have in the databases should match exactly.  This shouldn't be a case of a database getting corrupted because the app is closed and all databases are behaving this way.  I did a sqlite pragma integrity_check on the database on my computer and it checks out okay, so don't think the database itself has an issue.  And this is on a FAT32 SD card, so no file permissions at question here..  Logcat snippet..

I/Database(14126): sqlite returned: error code = 8, msg = prepared statement aborts at 1: [BEGIN EXCLUSIVE;]
E/Database(14126): Failure 8 (attempt to write a readonly database) on 0x34e8e0 when executing 'BEGIN EXCLUSIVE;'

FYI on the computer I also tried the begin exclusive; command on the same DB's, no problem.  I've also tried an SQLite Editor on my phone, and I can open the DB and view data.  Even edited the name of a cache, everything looks okay in this editor.  Even after editing it successfully in this SQLite Editor, I can't modify it in Locus.  The only way I can update in Locus is to delete the SQLite file on the SD card entirely, then re-import.

I can provide you a database, or do anything else you want me to do to diagnose this.
Quote from: "menion"i don't think that there is some needed info how to ... because Locus IS already replacement and I think much more (I was just playing with georg few minutes, so my though aren't precious). Did you tried import PQ GPX file into Locus? If not, try ...

EDIT: just about Geocaching tools in locus - these are only a small bonus for my dear geocachers :)
Oh, sure, I've imported some GPX.  Works very well, quite fast, nice that it'll load multiple GPX directly from a zip, etc.  That all works quite well.

I'll sit down and compare and give you my feedback on my opinion  what could change in Locus to make it a primary geocaching app for me.  That's not to say it's not capable of being the primary app for others.  :)  Maybe do it later today, or in the next few days.
Quote from: "menion"hmm fine. Thanks for answer about BCN. Anyway, please tell me one more thing (because I'm sometimes really curious) ... why are you still using GeOrg?
It's a dedicated Geocaching app..  Its workflow is optimized for that task, not "just" points.  I'm certainly glad you've put geocaching tools into Locus, especially some of the radius, centerpoint, etc type tools, but I think the two apps complement each other.  And your presentation of geocaches is quite nice, details, etc.

Only thing I really wish GeOrg had at this point was moving a cache from one database to another.  I like to keep my Find's, including any notes, waypoints, etc, and currently he doesn't have that functionality in there.  Using the Geocaching API would be nice too, but I primarily work from GPX anyway.  And there are two options for On The Fly caching as well, so no biggie.  Otherwise, it's pretty much perfect for me.  It's fast, no fiddling, etc.

If you want my honest opinion on how to make Locus a replacement for GeOrg, I could ponder that one and write it up.
Quote from: "wvb"copy/paste from the changelog of GeOrg 1.1.9:
- Support for Locus-SQLite-Maps

thinks this is what you are looking for :)
haven't tested it myself as I use Vector maps in Locus
WHAT??  HA!  You're right!  thank you, I must have missed it since I wasn't using Locus until the last few days!  I just downloaded a few states worth of Vectors too, but looks like I'll be keeping the bitmap OSM's I already downloaded for GeOrg.

Works great BTW, it takes about 10s to parse it the first time, after that it's very fast.  And switching between offline and online maps is pretty fast, only a little slow to switch to a different type of offline map.
Quote from: "menion"Hello Khaytsus,
  I don't know BCN and even GeOrg so I don't know which map format they use. Anyway locus use SQlite dababase as main map storage or little bit modified version of TrekBuddy format. So if these programs use same format, then there is no problem. Otherwise I cannot help.

  I tested few days before, free version BCN. I was curious why is this app so popular. And after testing, I'm curious more then before. May you say me? Because I cannot find on this app at least something, which is nice. Many free apps, like Orux, Locus Free and next, are by me better then BCN. I also discovered that OutDoor Active maps they use are stolen!! So why is this app so expensive?? Hmm ...

PS: and sorry, I forget to response on your email from AppBrain. Anyway, much better is to chat about it here ...
BCN is popular because a year ago there wasn't any other decent app to do what Locus and a few other similar apps do..  If I had to pick between them today, I'd certainly pick Locus as it has more function.

As for maps being "stolen", that I wouldn't know.  I know the author works with various sources to secure map access and has added and removed maps over the last year, so I would have to say he has permission to use them.  Don't know.

Right now, GeOrg will use the tiles that BackCountry Navigator outputs, however that works, honestly don't know.  I just know there are 256x256 pixel images which are correlated based on the location.  To load a particular tile from one of your SQLite databases, what's going in and out?  Could you give me an example of how to load a Tile from XYZ Database for lat,lon ?  Or is it something I can provide the developer based on TrekBuddy?  I don't know if the GeOrg developer will do it, as he's been pretty quiet for a while, but hopefully I can talk him into it.  :)
I have been using BackCountry Navigator for about a year for both its in-app capabilities but also the ability to use its tiles outside of the app, namely in my main geocaching app, GeOrg.  Unfortunately satellite tiles don't work, but the OSM tiles I have work fine so I use those while I'm mobile geocaching so I don't use any data and less battery while I'm out caching.

The more I use Locus the more I'm thinking I'm no longer going to use Backcountry Navigator, but I don't want to give up the offline maps in GeOrg.  I could of course just keep the tiles I have downloaded, but I'd prefer to use the more up to date tiles that I have in Locus.

Is it possible to access these externally and if so, is there documentation I can pass onto a developer in order to utilize them?

Other features / Re: Geocaching TOOLS
September 05, 2011, 00:49:20
Quote from: "dibrial"A text calculator function (a=1,b=2,...) with a sum of char which can reduce the word value to digit would come in handy.
Also a way of filling in the found numbers (A,B,C,D,...) into a co├Ârdinate would be nice to have in the app (WP calculator). I now always have to use another app to make these notes and then type in the end co├Ârdinate of the multi cache.
BTW, you might try GeoCache Calculator - ... isbehr.gcc

It has a zillion cache-related tools in it for such things.
Other features / Re: Geocaching TOOLS
September 04, 2011, 23:34:21
The tools you have added are quite nice, have a few suggestions. First, the circle tool is metric -only, if distance is set to feet the circle tool should match.  :)

A few suggestions around finding caches. A shortcut to mark a cache found, change the icon to one indicating it is found, optionally adding a note, and moving it to another catalog would be great for us data junkies. I like to keep all the caches I find for future reference, often because I am placing a new cache on the fly or such, and would be nice to have a shortcut to do these things.  :D

Another thing that would be nice is an option for showing a 161 meter/528 foot circle around waypoints so to see where one can place a cache in highly dense cache locations.

And for placing caches another nice feature would be the ability to average a new waypoints and see deviation etc, and stop the averaging when I am satisfied the coordinates are good.