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19. 6. 2025 - Locus Map 4.30.0 (5% of users at 19. 6.)

The last two months were full of bigger changes. Thanks to all for the big help.
I'm ready to fine-tune some details next week. No bigger changes are planned for now.

[@Graf Geo]

@Graf Geo
hidden "Other POIs" > as I wrote, if you remove all 3rd party databases (OAM, ...) and update all LoMaps - so there won't be any V1 database version, this item won't be visible at all.

Uploading a photo to LoPoints > it will be a lot improved in the next app version, so this option will be available only for our LoPoints. It does not make sense for other sources. Also, the app previously updated the details of the LoPoints with online data. This will now also work only for "Asamm LoPoints".

Update of LoPoints V1 > since the next LoMaps update (July 2025), V1 database will be removed from the update completely. In the long vision, this "Other POIs" should be used only for custom databases.

@Andrew Heard
top panel > thanks, finally fixed

@slarti76
Split track times > this is a safety mechanism to prevent some nonsensical times. Anyway, your use case is perfectly valid. I'll update logic a little to the next app version.

@T-mo
New LoPoints > I believe the profit of the change is quite big. No difference in online/offline work. A lot richer content of POIs, full compatibility of offline and online, better placement on the map and for use - very easy to modify both worlds at once.

Db documentation and support for 3rd parties > no, not planned and definitely not recommended. New system is a lot more complicated than the previous and we need to keep compatibility with the online and iOS world. That's why "Other POIs" will exist and will still be well supported.

Track detail > you are looking on the track from MyLibrary, probably. So it is a full-screen page with small map. Display the track on the map if you need to see more of it.

Red pointer > "click action" should be fixed in the next app version.

[@Michael Bechtold]

@Michael Bechtold
style of the track in overview > thanks for sharing the track. It was really a problem for all tracks that used "Use parent folder" style. Fixed.

@slarti76
splitting of tracks > as I see, there was a modification in the code in August 2022. If the time of the first trackpoint (of the original track) matches the time of the original track, and then if the time of 1. trackpoints of 1. segment is earlier than 1. trackpoints of 2. segment, the app uses these times.

So generally, this should work as you expect and exactly as confirmed @Graf Geo (thanks). You see these problems for your own recorded tracks that have for sure correct times for each trackpoint?

@Graf Geo
automatic LoPoints mode > good point, thanks. We will discuss it today. Most probably, it will use an "offline" solution for overlay, but will try to load the single point details online first.

Click on the red pointer > oki, I've added "center to point" action on it.

@Ulrich Kiermayr
Nearest points > well, I think this feature needs a bigger update. So no minor change like this for now please. Also, I'm also not sure if this is the best improvement.

@Tapio
OAM can't. As you see, even our own good old LoPoints are separated together with OAM into "Other POIs". What we did, is a full conversion of a huge system from the cloud into an offline solution. And @Radim V was able to do it almost 1:1. The SQLite database that holds data now has a completely different structure no longer compatible with the old solution. It now also handles all available databases at once, so no need (not even possible) to choose to work with a single database.

But because many people have old LoPoints and will want to use OAM and other alternative sources, it is fair to keep the old solution fully working.

"Display after save" > agreed, thanks

Remove all notifications > we will look at it, thanks.

@Andrew Heard
not hiding top panel > it seems to work for me. You see no other button on the right side of the panel? It should auto-hide after specified amount of time, same as other panels.

@40°
search on A7 > ah, thanks. We will look at it.

[final version 4.29.0.14]

Hi guys,
I'll look at it later.

For now, the final version 4.29.0.14 is ready to release (next week)!

   4.29.0.14
   - chg: update in LoMaps themes
   - fix: crash at start when negative un-archived notification exists
   4.29.0.13
   - chg: final version of the route planner refactoring
   - fix: "Log visit" in guidance panel is inactive when GC detail panel is open
   - add: support for clusterization of highlighted LoPoints respecting icon size
   - chg: better refresh of MyLib content after deletion
   - add: visible profile type icon during recalculation
   - fix: incorrect reporting of deleting of shared tracks when sync is not active
   4.29.0.12
   - chg: public support for offline LoPoints V2 (new LoMaps needed)
   - add: mass selection for new "Store updates" dialog
   - chg: informing about deprecation of LoPoints V1
   - chg: removed "Offline LoPoint autoload" settings (no longer needed)
   - chg: long click on profile button in route planner for quick access to profile parameters
   - fix: color tint for trackpoints icons on the map and in UI
   - chg: improved MyLib folder selection dialog
   - fix: incorrectly restored "way types" in Route planner

[@Graf Geo]

@Graf Geo
eh, I've forget on this settings, nice 

Oki, thanks guys, so let's try this solution in the next app version.

[@Michael Bechtold]

@Michael Bechtold
missing pattern > interesting problem I'm unable to simulate. Both features use the identical method of drawing track/route on the map, there is no difference. May you share a track with me, where this happens? Thanks

@Graf Geo
missing quick access to profile parameters > check "Route planner > menu > Settings" in the next app version. There will be new "Quick profile parameters".

Hmm and what about the following change >
 - long click on the main profile button > display of parameters, instead of toggling to manual mode
 - long click on the bottom-left "+" button > add single manual segment (to current map center), instead of "Select location" dialog?

Because if you want to add multiple manual segments, it is now a lot easier to switch to manual mode from the list of profiles. If you rarely want to pick a certain location from the "Select location" dialog, you may add it at the bottom itinerary ...

[@Tapio]

Thanks for the weekend testing!

@Tapio
map refresh problem > thanks for the video, but I'm unable to simulate it  ´. Will be watching it ...

limit notifications > not planned. There already is "Remove all" at the bottom of the list. Maybe add it to the top app bar?

@Graf Geo
search issue > I've pushed my colleague @marek about it.

notifications system > we had a mess around notifications internally. So the decision was to rewrite it from scratch. Advantages? A robust system, united with system notifications, allows for more flexible work on our side. For now, there should be no major difference. In the future, I believe in better notifications in the right time at the right place.

"Way types" > more on the help desk

@freischneider
highlighted loPoints in low zoom levels > forwarded to @Radim V

@Andrew Heard
search experience > it is complicated as you know. I may only suggest to push & inform in this topic or in existing topics on help desk.

@Ulrich Kiermayr
update all for maps > I thought I made it  , will do ...

[bigger version 4.29.0.11]

Hi guys,
after a longer time > bigger version 4.29.0.11 is just uploading to Google Drive

Main changes to discuss
- new setup of routing profile in the planner > let's have open mind and think first on basic users 
- completely new notification center system. More changes probably inside than visible, but still ...
- when using offline LoMaps, the app now in case of "out of the map coverage", supplies missing areas with online LoMaps

Full changelog
   4.29.0.11
   - chg: Route Planner > improve workflow of changing compute type and its parameters
   - chg: "Recalculate all" is not available without Premium
   - chg: many updates in the notification system
   - chg: highlighted LoPoints now visible up to zoom level 10
   - chg: removed LoPoints search button in the "LoPoints dialog" toolbar
   - chg: improved search result handling in Car
   - fix: swapped coordinates for WPL NMEA messages
   - chg: improved naming of temporary route in Route planner
   4.29.0.10
   - add: online LoMaps as backup for missing offline coverage
   - add: brand new Notify system (top map notifications, notify center, ...)
   - add: support for direct download of offline LoMaps when missing
   - chg: major refactoring related to map layers handling
   - fix: correct import of visible caches & closing of import dialog
   - chg: empty map background will be kept light even when app is in dark mode
   - fix: incorrectly set "Recalculate" settings in default car presets
   - fix: incorrect colors for simplified points as dot on the map
   4.29.0.9
   - fix: major memory leak fix cause by coordinate transform library
   - fix: not working Statkart.No" online maps (change in map URL)
   - fix: incorrectly update bottom panel during search in categories
   - fix: inability to "load app data"

Hi guys,
I've spent time on this. Next version (or Beta 4.29.0.10+) should have fixed one major background memory problem that was hopefully caused these issues.

[@Graf Geo]

Search in categories > give it a try guys. If there is be problem in finding what you are looking for, we should improve a catalog of synonyms. If still not good enough, we may talk about "browse in all categories". But I would like to have it as the last option here.

EN results for search > in case, you have the app in, for example, DE and the search for categories finds 0 results, the app tries the same search also as for English texts. So they are not mixed, if there are any results.

@Graf Geo
mixed list of categories > yes I know. It is a little problematic. App now remembers also the translation of the category, so the change of the language does not change it locally. Will update (somehow) later.

[@slarti76]

@slarti76
track in "Image & stats" > interesting. Can't simulate it. Does it have not just for one track?

10 categories > these are pre-selected by us. Not just random, but quite precisely selected most useful categories. It will personalize as you use this function.

@luce

I understand that a browser system no longer makes sense when there are hundreds of categories. I don't understand though what this "display only highlighted LoPoints" option has to do with the browser system – it's two separate decisions.

not sure what I wanted to say, sorry. Yes, of course, both these features are not directly connected. I probably wanted to say, that displaying all categories in a "Browser style" is now more complicated and not so useful.

@Graf Geo
search in categories > we will look at it, thanks! Btw. do you have the app in German??

[@Tapio]

@Tapio & others

display only highlighted etc > sorry, not planned for now. There is hundreds of categories now and "Browser system" as for current offline LoPoints no longer makes sense. We need to implement access to the nearest LoPoints over search etc. If there is a problem with too much places on the map, we need to fix this by improving priorities and better placement of points on the map.

offline LoPoints > yes, system will be united for online & offline. Most probably in July version. New LoPoint database is almost finished.

@slarti76
indeed, online LoPoints does not work above any raster map. Bug! Thanks.

Zdravím,
v kódu se nedělali žádné kroky k odříznutí add-onů, tedy ideálně vyzkoušet ale měl by být.

[4.29.0.8]

New Beta version before weekend:

  4.29.0.8
  - add: new dialog for mass update of LoMaps from Locus Store
  - add: history of highlighted categories
  - chg: new design for LoPoints category highlight
  - fix: invalid link in GeoNames "no offline data" info
  - fix: WPT and PLWDWPL NMEA reader
  - fix: missing overview for track copy
  - fix: error when searching for categories over global search
  - fix: deal with LoPoints with defined area
  - chg: disabled context menu for geocache "Placed by" value
  - fix: rarely incorrect scale value for vector maps texts

[@Graf Geo]

@Graf Geo
too fat lines in track previews > should be fixed, thanks

@Andrew Heard
search results > this is a little more complicated. Why? Because I gave up on the search in the app and left it to other guys. They are not so active here on the forum  . So the best is to push on the help desk. You have my support! 

@slarti76
UI difference > easy - on tab, you probably did a fresh install right? I've decided to offer two modes. Easy for a new users (less buttons etc) and "compatibility" for existing users, so the shock is not so big. Change it in the myLib menu > "Style" dialog.

OnBoardCalibrator - GIF > ahh, limited to jpg and png for now, thanks.

Quality of attached images > hmm, will look at it.

Share from GMaps > more users already reported it and I was never able to simulate it while behind the PC  . Anyway @Andrew Heard also wrote about it here, so I'll try to look at it again.

@luce
track preview > I think there simply isn't enough space for bigger previews. The solution is to prepare "Grid" view (two or more columns) like in a photo browser


distinction of folders > good point. I also wanted, but always forgot to think more about it. Added to "todo".

@freischneider
mix highlight of own points and LoPoints > not a good idea, sorry. To highlight some own points, maybe using "Circles" for certain folders? (just edit the metadata of the folder and enable drawing of circles below icons).


Highlight of POI
I'll look at it more next week, thanks to all for the feedback for now.
Just a few notes
- there won't be browsing of POIs for new online and offline V2 LoPoints like for the old system. The category tree is now a lot more complicated, and we believe that browsing in the structure of points is not needed and may be covered by the search.
- search should use synonyms, so you do not need to know the exact category name