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Troubles & Questions / Re: Unable to follow track
« on: May 16, 2020, 19:53:03 »
Tranlated [NL] to [EN] by Google translate help.  so.....pse be carefull

Hi GusGF, if you agree, one problem after another best. We start with the latter.

One other thing Locus help details What is the difference between a route and a track? But then when I create a route in route planner it appears under 'tracks' but Locus states a track provides a record of where you have been, and when. That's downright confusing

I do agree, indeed is an extremely confusing situation. But that is not by Locus (manual) only, but it is a very general gps usage problem.

It is caused by a difference in the technical language of (rte) route or (trk) track, and the more general language used about what "a route" is exactly (a trajectory)

Very popular: A (trk) track.
A (trk) track describes the traject (to be followed) by multiple position points. The trajectory is without any doubt clearly and precisely described.

Less popular: A (rte) route in two variants.
a. A compact (rte) route which only contains some important reference position points along which you absolutely want to go.
The mobile GPS router machine then takes care of the exact traject (along roads) calculation, which means that depending on the setting, possibly by using different roads than you expected.
b. A direct (rte) route. In addition to the reference position points, it also contains the detailed intermediate points with here also the exact course of the trajectory.
How exactly the intermediate points are added is technically even with some more variations ... so even adds more confusing.  Although it can be done by a very simple but unfamiliar method,  so it is unloved.

That's why the web routers and mobile routers just do generate you a (trk) track. With a clear trajectory result and ready.

A navigation track.
To add navigation instructions to a track, navigation waypoints are added containing the instructions.
These navigation waypoints must therefore be linked very tightly and precise with the relevant correct track point.

The whole of such a track including navigation waypoints is then (AND HERE IT COMES!) is in the general language then called designing a route.
So = Very confusing. That is why I mainly used the word trajectory in the beginning, precisely to avoid the general "route" language for a while.

So in general language usage is common:
A route is something you want to follow. This can also be a previously recorded or newly generated track that you wish to follow.
You suddenly call something like this in the general language use than a route, but you actually just do follow a technical (trk) track.
But anyway still everyone calls this a route to follow. (So ​​is very confusing)


(To be patient)
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the Duraforce (4.5"), Duraforce xd (5.7") and Duraforce pro have been very good for me.

here are two mounts I've used on motorcycles doing hard Enduro , that work very very well.

and one that is even better

the Duraforce do not need cases.
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They provide cases for a tiny fraction of Android phones and only for a handful of high end models.
That's the status quo for all name-brand, specialty phone cases, not just Lifeproof. Even Otter and Quadlock focus on Apple and Samsung. However, Quadlock does make a "universal" case where the phone is held in place with adhesive. Of course, it isn't waterproof so that feature must be part of the phone's design.

How about this off-brand, universal, waterproof case with bike mount?

It's inexpensive and has received good reviews. You can use it with non-waterproof phones which opens the door to a broader selection of Android phones.

FWIW, I used to use a Garmin Rino 530 HCx but, after extensive field trials, has been retired and replaced with Locus Map and a Moto X Play. It has a 3630 mAH battery and a bright, 5.5" FHD display (~403ppi density). I've run Locus Map for over ten hours, in track-recording mode, and the battery capacity dropped <30%.

Perhaps of less interest to cyclists but the phone has also served me well for winter-hiking. The internal battery temperature has been below freezing (reported by Locus Map) but has continued to function nominally for both navigation and photos:

Good luck with your search for the ideal Garmin replacement!
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For mounting a phone on the handlebars, I'd recommend Quadlock. I use their universal fit mount (stuck to the back of the phone case) plus their out front mount on the bike.

I have a Sony Z5 compact that claims to be waterproof (IP68 rating). I've never had it out in more than light rain, but it survived that on the handlebars without problem.
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