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Warum probierst du es nicht einfach? 

Natürlich geht das, mache ich ständig.

@Menion:

Thanks for the update. You didn't mention it in the changelog, but clicking on the red pointer now moves the map directly to the location you're looking for. Perfect. 👍

(See this topic)

I don't know if it's because of the new version or the latest LoMaps update. In any case, street names are no longer assigned to shaping points in the route planner, and when saving the route, the title is no longer entered ("Untitled").

Okay, that's sorted. A few days ago, I updated all my LoMaps using the new mass update function. Since then, the addresses/street names had disappeared.

Now I've downloaded all the maps again individually and now I have three files per country/region: *osm.maps, *.osm.db and *poi2.db
I think the osm.db files were missing before.
In any case, the addresses are now back.
No idea what happened there.

I don't know if it's because of the new version or the latest LoMaps update. In any case, street names are no longer assigned to shaping points in the route planner, and when saving the route, the title is no longer entered ("Untitled").

Thank you very much! Everything looks good for now and two or three little things from the last beta have been fixed.

One question, (still with the setting "Centre on pioint" OFF): Global search for a location outside the screen, the red direction marker appears.

I click on it and now always have two identical entries in the "Select element" menu in 4.30.0. Both can be clicked and move the map there. See screenshot 1. Before there were at least two entries with different icons and only the one with the small square could be clicked. Screeshot 2.

In general, I wonder why the map does not immediately move to the location when I click on the red direction marker. The select element list with two identical entries is an unnecessary intermediate step. What is it for?

(I know that if two or more LoPoints are very close together on the map and I click on them, the "choose element" menu also appears, but then of course there are different entries in it and the list makes sense. But that's a different use case.)

@Tapio: Bei mir passt das mit dem Wiedereinstiegspunkt eigentlich meistens ganz gut, an der nächsten möglichen sinnvollen Kreuzung oder so werde ich wieder auf meine Route geschickt. Und wenn mir das nicht passt, gehe ich einfach weiter bis zur nächsten Neuberechnung. Ich würde sogar eher mehr in Richtung vorwärts gewichten und lieber ein kleines Stück der Route überspringen.

Aber Gedanken lesen kann LM natürlich nicht. (Komoot aber wahrscheinlich auch nicht:)

Wenn erst ab 200m Abweichung neu berechnet wird, Du aber bereits bei 50m Abweichung auf "Zielführung" umschaltest, bekommst Du doch nur noch die Zielführungslinie angezeigt?

Richtig. Wobei man sich auch bei der Zielführung was ansagen lassen kann (nutze ich nie, ich glaube da wird dann die Gradzahl genannt, in die man gehen soll). 

Ja, vermutlich liegt es an deinen Einstellungen, denn bei mir funktioniert das ausgezeichnet.
Ich habe eingestellt:

• Abweichen Info: aktiviert, 50 m, Piepton (Du kannst auch Text zu Sprache wählen)
• Routen-Neuberechnung: Strecken Priorität. Abweichung, ab der neu berechnet wird: 200 m (je nach Bedarf ändere ich den Wert auch mal).
• Erweiterte Einstellungen: Strikte Routen-Navigation OFF (sonst würde die Neuberechnung dich zurück auf den Punkt führen, wo du die Route velassen hast. Das ist nur sinnvoll, wenn du keinen Meter deiner Route verpassen willst oder darfst.)
• Maximale Abweichung von der Route: 50 m (Entfernung ab welcher auf Zielführung umgeschaltet wird, um zurück auf die Route zu kommen)

Wenn ich die Route verlasse (> 50 m) wird gepiept und die blaue Pfeillienie zeigt dynamisch auf die Route. Ab 200 m wird neu berechnet und zum nächsten Punkt (in Vorwärtsrichtung) auf meiner Route navigiert und dann normal weiternavigiert. Ich komme damit prima klar.

Trotzdem wirst du kein 1:1 Komoot Verhalten erzielen. LM kann halt viiiel mehr und natürlich bringt das viele Einstellungsmöglichkeiten mit sich, was es für Gelegenheitsnutzer nicht ganz einfach macht.

 

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IMHO pressing the dedicated UI-element (icon with indicator of off-screen-position) should also provide this functionality if actively pressed, my suggestion, currently it does nothing.

I have also deactivated this setting for the same reasons.

The red point red marker works for me when searching for a location or item via the global search. It opens a menu "Select item", clicking on the lower entry with the square moves the map there. See screenshot.

It does not work when selecting a "nearest point" in the left panel. I wrote about it here and Menion replied here.

@T-mo:
"a lot of area is used and wasted with information not that relevant to me"
It may be irrelevant to you, but it is not to many other users. However, I would appreciate it if this track info panel could be individually configurable. Unfortunately, this is not planned for the time being.

"point, red marker"
Check the Expert Settings to see if "Centre on point" is enabled under points.

"LoPoints, other symbols"
Yes, LoPoints can only be enabled all or none. You can only highlight certain categories.

Just for information: I have looked again at the "Other POIs".

If I upload a photo to a POI from "Other POIs", this is actually added to the corresponding online LoPoint.

"Other POIs" can be filtered on the map, even if I only realised this after a lot of trial and error. Click on "Other POIs" (not the eye icon!), click on the desired category in the list (e.g. shelter), then click on the small icon with the small number x at the top right, close the menu again and only the x POIs in this category will be displayed. You can repeat this several times to display several categories exclusively. Some users may like this better than highlighting the LoPoints, where all other POIs are also displayed as small icons and the map is overloaded with icons in some places.

These "Other POIs" also show (if you are online) the photos that have been uploaded to the corresponding LoPoint. These are probably the old V1 LoPoints, as newer POIs/photos are not displayed here. Now I'm wondering whether new POIs will continue to be added to the old V1 system or whether it will be frozen at its current status. I'll see after the next LoMap update...

Ultimately, however, up-to-dateness is important for POIs, so the LoPoints (online) are the first choice for me.

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Thank you. I don't fully understand it, but ok. For example, I didn't realise that the old offline LoPoints (V1) also used 3rd party POIs. I had only rarely activated them. Now (V2) they are only pure LoPoints.

So if I don't need the "Other Pois" option, couldn't the option be hidden via the map content menu? So that it doesn't take up unnecessary space?

[Other POIs vs LoPoints]

Other POIs vs LoPoints

Somehow I don't really understand the sense and advantage of the new "Other POIs" category. Ok, this contains the POIs from the OAM database of the saved OAM maps, i.e. xy_oam_osm.db. So these are POIs available offline.

I can now choose and display LoPoints online, offline and/or OAM POIs.

But as they are all based on Openstreetmap POIs, are they the same POIs? Yes, some LoPoints are only available online and not offline, and some POIs are displayed as online LoPoints, but not as OAM POIs by default or only if I select them in the OAM POI list and display them with the "nearest < 100" icon. And yes, some OSM POIs are neither transferred as LoPoint nor as OAM POI, e.g. benches.

What advantages does this offer? Somehow it is just a duplication of all POIs from two databases (osm.db and oam_osm.db). If I activate both LoPoints and Other POIs, almost all POIs are displayed twice with a slight offset.

I also don't know whether I see an online LoPoint, an offline LoPoint or an OAM-POI on the map. I can recognise the few LoPoints for which there is a photo (the photo is only displayed for an online LoPoint). Otherwise you can't tell them apart. I would find it useful if, when I call up a POI, an icon or a note is displayed indicating what kind of POI (from which source) it is.

If I select "POIs around" under "Other POIs" in the list at the top, Online LoPoints are also displayed (verifiable when a photo is displayed). Somehow it's all mixed up.

I can also upload photos to OAM POIs, which seems illogical to me, as these are external offline POIs. Can I now assign the same photo twice to each POI, once to the LoPoint and once to the OAM-POI, whereby it is pointless for the latter as it is not displayed for an offline point? Or is a photo uploaded to an OAM POI automatically assigned to the online LoPoint?

Somehow I find it all a bit confusing and not clearly structured, but maybe I just don't understand the principle yet. Maybe someone can set me straight?

Hmm, I just tested it again and now the line style, including colour, thickness and pattern, is being applied correctly for me.

Finally, after restarting the device, they were uploaded for me too. 🙂