Thanks for your insight.
There are definitely many factors at play.
I'm sure LM uses Brouter to get the address online, because I just got a big errror message from Brouter on the screen when selecting a point. That also somewhat explains the "Loading..." name.
I only have outdated LoMaps but I can confirm it works. But whether the address data comes from offline maps or online requests shouldn't matter. This should be transparent to the user. If the address data is shown, it is known to LM and should be used.
But weirdly I managed to get named shape points when using LoMaps Online. Seems like the offline version is installed, it queries that for the name of a point. But that isn't logical. I can only assume that long-press shows the BRouter address, but then it would save the offline LoMaps name. It should most of the time be the same, but there is no guarentee.
Also, if a user online LoMaps and has some offline LoMaps installed for some regions, the name for new route points would work in some cases, but not in others. There is no obvious reason for the user why this would happen.
Thanks for the tip of longpress +. I didn't know this is possible. Problem is it still needs the offline LoMaps to use the names. If I want to have named waypoints I still prefer longpressing on the map to see the name and then adding it to the route, because this way I can see the name of the place beforehand. If I choose "screen centre" I don't see the name in advance.
And when there is no offline LoMap for the area the via points are named with the coordinates. I don't think this isn't helpful either. You see the point already on the map. The coordinates as a string are not really meaningful for humans. And if someone wants the actual coordinates, they could just select the point and it will display the coordinates and they can even be edited.
But these reveals another oddity: If you name a via point and then adjust the numeric coordinates, the name is overwritten. If there are no offline LoMaps it will be renamed to the generic "Zwischenziel" (waypoint), if the offline LoMaps exist, it pick a new name depending on what the LoMaps say. This is also unexpected behaviour.
You can change the name of a via point by clicking again on the via point icon. If you do that for a shape point, it just closes the details for this point. Unexpected.
I don't think you can change the icon at all.
Anyway, I'm not planning to use offline LoMaps. They cost money and I'm online anyways, Also I use online router for navigation. I can get offline maps elsewhere. And this shouldn't be a prerequisite for being able to get names points in the planner.
PS: I was wrong that start and end have to be vias. They can be shape point too. But that changes nothing about the confusing UI.
There are definitely many factors at play.
I'm sure LM uses Brouter to get the address online, because I just got a big errror message from Brouter on the screen when selecting a point. That also somewhat explains the "Loading..." name.
I only have outdated LoMaps but I can confirm it works. But whether the address data comes from offline maps or online requests shouldn't matter. This should be transparent to the user. If the address data is shown, it is known to LM and should be used.
But weirdly I managed to get named shape points when using LoMaps Online. Seems like the offline version is installed, it queries that for the name of a point. But that isn't logical. I can only assume that long-press shows the BRouter address, but then it would save the offline LoMaps name. It should most of the time be the same, but there is no guarentee.
Also, if a user online LoMaps and has some offline LoMaps installed for some regions, the name for new route points would work in some cases, but not in others. There is no obvious reason for the user why this would happen.
Thanks for the tip of longpress +. I didn't know this is possible. Problem is it still needs the offline LoMaps to use the names. If I want to have named waypoints I still prefer longpressing on the map to see the name and then adding it to the route, because this way I can see the name of the place beforehand. If I choose "screen centre" I don't see the name in advance.
And when there is no offline LoMap for the area the via points are named with the coordinates. I don't think this isn't helpful either. You see the point already on the map. The coordinates as a string are not really meaningful for humans. And if someone wants the actual coordinates, they could just select the point and it will display the coordinates and they can even be edited.
But these reveals another oddity: If you name a via point and then adjust the numeric coordinates, the name is overwritten. If there are no offline LoMaps it will be renamed to the generic "Zwischenziel" (waypoint), if the offline LoMaps exist, it pick a new name depending on what the LoMaps say. This is also unexpected behaviour.
You can change the name of a via point by clicking again on the via point icon. If you do that for a shape point, it just closes the details for this point. Unexpected.
I don't think you can change the icon at all.
Anyway, I'm not planning to use offline LoMaps. They cost money and I'm online anyways, Also I use online router for navigation. I can get offline maps elsewhere. And this shouldn't be a prerequisite for being able to get names points in the planner.
PS: I was wrong that start and end have to be vias. They can be shape point too. But that changes nothing about the confusing UI.