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#1
Hi,

I just tried the latest version of Locus 4.24 and I would like to report a bug. In the planner screen, the parameters of external profiles do not have any effect on the calculation when using LoRouter offline, while if I use the external app Brouter, the parameters have an effect on the route that will be calculated (test on same profile!).
Thank you for looking into this.
#2
Hi everyone,
I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Menion and the entire staff for continuing to improve this fantastic program. I am particularly excited about the implementation of parameters from external profiles in the planner. I am also eagerly awaiting the multiple selection sliders. I greatly appreciate this integration. Thank you again.
#3
Hi, I can't properly see the supported parameters for external profiles in the planning screen, is something changed?
#4
I would also like to add another request. I was thinking about my profile and its calculation limits, and I would need to add waterway=stream tag, seasonal=* (all tags) and intermittent=* (all tags). This is because I want my profile to consider these tags and keys. This will be especially useful in areas like Sardinia, where some streams can be used for recreation. Considering the global rise in temperatures, this could also be useful in other areas where the phenomenon is occurring, as it is in Sardinia. For now, I have worked around the problem by adding an additional highway=path or track tag to the existing waterway key, but I'm not sure if this is the correct way to map.

Thank you for your time and consideration.
#5
While the node use isn't as common as with ways, similar to what was mentioned in the Brouter request here, I understand that adding support for such a low percentage of cases might not be practical. However, it would improve the accuracy of the calculations. The fact that the current system excludes certain node values leads to imprecise results.

Let me give you an example: If I include code in my profile to avoid all mtb:scale=3|4|5 values, I would like the route to be as precise as possible. This means avoiding not only segments with this tag directly, but also segments that have nodes with the same tag.

In any case, it's better to give profile creators the option to utilize this node filtering functionality rather than completely exclude it.
#6
Hi everyone,

I noticed that some mappers, including myself, sometimes use certain tags on nodes instead of the way to indicate short sections without splitting the segment. I wonder if it would be possible to add the smoothness, mtb:scale, mtb:scale:uphill and surface tag to the node-tags section in lookups.dat, as it is done for the way-tags section?

Thank you for your time and consideration.
#7
Tools / Re: LoRouter routing profiles
March 02, 2024, 17:55:48
Hi everyone,

I am also looking for a way to show variables (boolean or number) in the new planner (LoRouter offline configuration) via using drop-down/sliding menus (like in the LoMTB online profile) or flags directly from the planner, or even via a dedicated add-on. Is this possible or is it planned for the future?

Unfortunately, the only solution I know is to create as many profiles as there are combinations of variables. However, if it were possible to choose and change the various parameters, it would be possible to use a single profile.

Unfortunately, I do not use the variables mentioned above in my profile.

Best regards,

Giovanni
#8
Quote from: 0709 on June 10, 2023, 10:18:40I tested by the old BRouter version reinstall. (OK)

By Android file explorer (I use the cx file explorer)
Got to > phone memory (or ext sd) > Android> media > btools.routingapp folder.
Rename the folder into old.btools.routingapp.

Deinstall the current BRouter app version.
DO NOT keep any data ! = A complete deinstall !
Reinstall old BRouter app version by apk.
Select installl to phone or ext sd card.
Startup and stop Brouter app (no need to download a region).

By file explorer go to old.btools.routingapp and select the folder brouter > copy.
By file explorer go to btools.routing app and replace the existing folder brouter folder.
(Overwrite all)

The old version is reinstalled. Inclusive already existing .rd5 files.
This walkaround is ok, Locus map 4 with external brouter app, thanks a lot, until the problem will be fixed, I will use the old version, as a gold user I was no longer using external apps.
#10
Quote from: Radim V on June 09, 2023, 09:32:07Hello Lupin,
sorry for being late, but this is hard to investigate.
 - Locus router (both offline and online) is not guarantied to give results identical to Brouter project. Why is that: 1.not identical data are used for calculation. (This seems not to be the case here as your profiles work in both Locus router and Brouter). 2.There is constant development on both projects which we sync only sometimes (there may be minor changes in the algorithms e.t.c). We aim to keep online and offline version of Locus router identical.
 - Maybe more appropriate question here is: Is the calculated route wrong? How much error is there regarding your routing profile? Which one is the "right" one?
Would you share your custom profile please?
Radim.
Hi Radim V
- Could the online locus router use the custom profile as the offline mode?
- The calculated route is wrong both with external brouter app and only with locus map with offline profile, the only correct one is on brouter-web site.
If you try to modify these parameters: assign downhillcost; assign downhillcutoff, assign uphillcost, assign uphillcutoff, on android app (external brouter or only offline locus calculation) the route is the same like as if these parameters will have not effect, try yourself, instead on the broute-web site any change has a different result, I tell you this because I use 4 different profiles (same base with different parameters) and now each profile calculates the SAME ROUTE on android, again try yourself.
On old locus map 3 and external brouter (ver. 3.62.1, 1.6.3 respectively) the compute is right, after update on playstore to 3.68.1 and 1.7.0 there is the same problem.
#11
Quote from: Menion on June 09, 2023, 08:42:06Hello Lupin,
if you compute the route also with BRouter external app on the Android and the result is the same as with Locus Map itself, then it looks more like a problem of the BRouter.

It is anyway task to @Radim V who take care of this in our team. So Radim, any known problem?
Hi Menion, no because using the external app or only Locus map (offline with the same profile) the compute is wrong, only if I use the brouter-web site I have the right route
#12
I add another attempt, I tried to calculate the route with an old version of locus map pro (ver. 3.62.1 with brouter 1.6.3) and the route is the same on the brouter-web site (same profile attached), after update at version 3.68.1 and 1.7.0 (locus and brouter app) the calculated route is different as described above and the right one turns out to be the one calculated by the site or by old versions of the app, so I guess there is a problem with the latest versions of the app, greetings
#13
It seems that these parameters while changing them do not affect the calculation:
assign downhill cost; assign downhillcutoff, assign uphillcost, assign uphillcutoff
#14
As per Title, I have a route calculation problem with some custom profiles (created by zossebart and then modified some values ��by me) and I don't understand why.
Let me explain: the same profile used on the brouter-web site give me a different result from locus and brouter app, I tried both locus 4 and the previous version, I also tried with the external brouter app (again for android) but the route is different from the one calculated on the brouter-web site. I also tried on other phones but the result is the same, is there some bug or do you know the reason?
I am attaching the profile (brf file) and some screenshots.