New Locus Map (4) version
Important links
- list of news (https://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/locus-map-version-4-16-25-4-2023) of public versions
- Public versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersions)
- Beta versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest)
Versions
25. 4. 2023 - Locus 4.16.0
Quoteadd: option to set an individual track elevation threshold - customizable optimization of the elevation gain (Expert settings)
Some background info please? Hasn't this been discussed somewhere here?
I noticed, initial threshold varies, on what basis? Changing threshold can change elevation gain drastically.
For those who didn't find yet: set setting according to screenshot, then you have a slider in 'edit info' of a track...
Hello menion
where can we get the description?
chg: completely new and more flexible system for geocaching icons
@Tapio
there is a topic here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8339.0;topicseen). I've in the end hidden this function under Expert settings because I'm sure, we will discuss this a little more.
What does this value do? It specifies a minimal change in the altitude when computing elevation up/down sums.
@balloni55
Here is it necessary to re-import caches. After that, check icons that should be created from multiple icons, like "Found cache that is premium + disabled". All info should be visible at once.
Quote from: Menion on April 26, 2023, 16:47:38...
What does this value do? It specifies a minimal change in the altitude when computing elevation up/down sums.
...
I find this new feature quite interesting. Whereas "minimal change in the altitude" is relative - moving the slider by a few metres can result in significant differences in elevation up/down sums.
I have tried a lower value (3 m) for tracks in flatter terrain and a higher value (5 m or more) in mountainous terrain - but in the end the function shows well how difficult the calculation of realistic elevation gain/loss is. Good solution to put the function in the Expert Settings. Thanks for the update!
4 months and 3 versions ago I reported this issue with the planners
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?msg=69978
still not solved
Military road
access = no
but ...
foot = permissive
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/220542005
:'(
Quotefix: (SILVER) activating of Presets by long-tapping an item in function panel
works: but selecting Information instead of a preset opens the Information for the dashboard
Menion, if the backup includes everything that is supported, please describe it as "complete backup" - because otherwise we need to double check.
Is it just me?
In preset edit dialog there are two settings with description "display or hide xyz".
What means setting enabled in this case? Is enabled stands for display or for hide ?
For me it's not clear. I just guess enabled means display.
Is it not enough to use just "Display xyz"?
Like "Display Navigation statistics"
It's not only in english language. Also in others.
Quote from: CabrioTourer on May 02, 2023, 22:25:40What means setting enabled in this case?
Well, the description indeed is a bit different here, but as always, the checkbox only defines if the setting is included in the preset. Everything is fine.
When creating a new point (by long tap), the folder for that point defaults to the folder of the last point CLICKED. That's wrong, it should default to the folder of the last point ENTERED.
Viewing points and entering points are two very different things. I have plenty visible point folders, yet during a trip, I always want to add points to a single folder for that trip.
I am pretty sure this worked properly before. The change/bug must have been introduced lately. Please fix, I keep creating points in random folders just because I view stuff in-between.
The red button while recording a track does NOT auto-hide, even though it's configured to do so in Settings. Shouldnt it act just like the other buttons and toolbars, go away after a while and come back on single tap? The auto-hide option has no effect at all here.
Hiding the button completely works, but that's not what I want.
Please fix asap... this is a high contrast item at a fixed position and responsible for killing Samsung displays permanently. Our Locus Display Death counter is at 5 Samsung Galaxy meanwhile: two S8+, one S10+, one S20FE, one S22ultra.
There is a weird Chat button on top/left since a few versions that always(!) appears when I turn on my live position transfer. It's quite useless to me as I never want to locus-chat anybody, let alone myself, which is all it offers when clicked. How can I get rid of that thing? I am pretty sure it wasn't there before and it's just another fixed-location item that will eventually kill AMOLED screens.
Quote from: joeloc on May 04, 2023, 15:41:54The red button while recording a track does NOT auto-hide, even though it's configured to do so in Settings.
I wanted to report it once, but then I realized it's probably on purpose. It does not autohide only if a recording is active. It's debatable. I'm undecided and can live with it the way it is.
If i import geocaches via "Geocaching tools"/ "Search for geocaches" the logs are displayed once as expected :)
After i update these caches with GC4L all logs are displayed twice :o
see sec 35 in screencast
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sxqu5qkmhcjj8yc/twice.mp4?dl=0
Importing these caches with GC4L and run a update with GC4L the logs are furthermore displayed once
Hi guys,
@lor74cas I've informed
@Radim V about it. Should be improved in the one of next app versions.
@Gerhard57 ah, thanks. Info about "Presets" fixed.
@Tapio backup info improved, thanks
@joeloc Default folder for saving points: sorry, can't confirm the mentioned problem. The folder that should be preselected is only saved when you leave "Edit point" screen. Not in any other case.
Deadly recording button: as mentioned by
@Tapio , this is not a bug but an intent. If you have a problem with current behavior, the solution may be to hide it permanently and add a "Track record" button into the functions panel.
"Live chat" icon > this should be visible in case, the owner of the live tracking room enabled "Live chat" in the room settings.
@balloni55 good observation, thanks. G4L use different generated ID for logs and it caused this. I've reworked whole system and also improved detection of duplications so it should work correctly in the next app version, thanks.
Quote from: Menion on May 05, 2023, 14:54:16@joeloc
Default folder for saving points: sorry, can't confirm the mentioned problem. The folder that should be preselected is only saved when you leave "Edit point" screen. Not in any other case.
Confirmed... but apparently you also save that when you leave the edit point screen with "Cancel". Shouldn't Cancel keep everything as is without changes to anything?
Apparently that happened a lot to me lately, I seem to misclick the Edit icon quite often since I set Locus to full screen. Silly me... but anyway... :-)
Quote from: Menion on May 05, 2023, 14:54:16"Live chat" icon > this should be visible in case, the owner of the live tracking room enabled "Live chat" in the room settings.
Ok... apparently Locus made a group for me with just me inside (and the public group) and that's what made the icon appear. I removed the "just me" group and now it's gone. Thanks for the clarification.
Quote from: Menion on May 05, 2023, 14:54:16Deadly recording button: as mentioned by @Tapio , this is not a bug but an intent. If you have a problem with current behavior, the solution may be to hide it permanently and add a "Track record" button into the functions panel.
Hm... ok... not pretty but I can do that. How about making the intentionally visible recording button 50% opaque when it's set to auto-hide and recording is active? Just an idea... never mind... the functions panel method works. Thanks.
Btw, as you may notice, I am still desperately trying to hide every single locus ui element which is permanently visible at a fixed location. The time for permament AMOLED burnin (on Samsung Galaxy devices at least) is measured in weeks or months, not years. Five hours per day at full brightness for a month on a bicycle and you are guaranteed a phone with permament Locus markings... even with the latest and greatest and most expensive devices.
The only thing I cannot get rid of for now is the Copyright button. 50% visibility is not(!) a fix btw, this will only delay the problem.
The cursor will also burn in sooner or later. I cant hide it obviously, it's quite important. My current fix is to change its size slightly every few days, that might help for a while.
New
Locus Map, Beta 4.16.0.2Finally with the new "Online search system". I'm glad to introduce a half year of work of three people > I believe that after 10+ years, finally usable online address & LoPoints search. :)
I have nothing to do with it, so all questions to
@Radim V &
@Marek Scholtz . Because it is a big feature, everyone who wants to ask something or discuss it, Marek created a separate topic for this here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8436.0). They'll be of course very glad for any feedback!
Enjoy the weekend!
@joeloc thanks. I'll have to think about what you wrote a little more next days. Too late tonight ...
4.16.0.2 after displaying point details, either from new search or old LoPoints(beta) then tap the 5-dot position icon on the preview map @ the top of the panel, LM crashes every time. There is no option to generate a report.
Offline places - sometimes all it displays is this name. Not able to enter any details. Switch to another search type then back to offline places, and now a textbox is displayed.
The Search hamburger menu sometimes seems unresponsive (or slow) to a tap. Is it really needed to jiggle this icon everytime?
Also noticed crashes. IDK, showing results on map, then dragging map, crash at some point.
Hello,
nice update 4.16.0.2 :)
Looking forward to testing the new search system.
Something different:
When navigating with the new version 4.16.0.2, both information panels at the top of the screen don't work any more. No matter what option I choose, the information doesn't change. The values don't change either, the kilometers to the target stay at 24.4 km all the time :)
See video:
https://1drv.ms/v/s!AredTfs4J1f5gvABnGqNr2_Pa36dNA
Best, Lucas
... and the navigation panel (the one with the big arrow) doesn't show up any more during navigation – neither the small nor the big one.
New online search:
When searching for a POI, e.g. a bank, the online search is sorting the results according to my current location, not according to the cursor's position. This makes it impossible to search something in a distant place.
@luce
turn off GPS, so cursor position is used
BTW as menion wrote in #20 there is a separat topic for new "Online search system".
Quote from: balloni55 on May 07, 2023, 19:32:19turn off GPS, so cursor position is used
I hope this is just a workaround, not by design.
When I'm standing in one place but the cursor is at another, my attention is at the other place, and I'd like the search / weather forecast / whatever to be at
that location. Just my opinion.
Quote from: Viajero Perdido on May 07, 2023, 19:47:33Quote from: balloni55 on May 07, 2023, 19:32:19turn off GPS, so cursor position is used
I hope this is just a workaround, not by design.
When I'm standing in one place but the cursor is at another, my attention is at the other place, and I'd like the search / weather forecast / whatever to be at that location. Just my opinion.
Totally agreed!
Quote from: Viajero Perdido on May 07, 2023, 19:47:33I hope this is just a workaround, not by design.
Agreed. And while recording a track, this is not even a reasonable workaround.
I get lots of crashes in connection with point/track menu. If I chose a point and try to start navigation/guiding then it crashes. If I choose the same point from the map, it works. I get also crashes if I push the center on point button in point screen. Pretty unusable for me in this state...
Quote from: lor74cas on April 27, 2023, 15:32:424 months and 3 versions ago I reported this issue with the planners
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?msg=69978
still not solved
Military road
access = no
but ...
foot = permissive
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/220542005
:'(
I "relaxed" the policy towards permissive access in hike and bike routing profiles. Routing is already changed on web, the app will soon follow.
https://link.locusmap.app/r/nsuqvf
Quote from: Radim V on May 09, 2023, 10:41:11I "relaxed" the policy towards permissive access in hike and bike
Yes confirmed, on the web planner now is available.
Thank you
Regarding the cursor location vs GPS location as the online search parameter. Please see this post in the dedicated thread (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?msg=71546).
The intended behavior is: Cursor position has priority over GPS position and this is what we observe. Can you give us an example of wrong behavior?
Hello Radim
behavior depend on
Expert setting/Default search/sort location
Quote from: TrulloF on May 09, 2023, 08:22:55I get lots of crashes in connection with point/track menu
very similar to me ;-(
PS. quick test - appears fixed in 4.16.0.3
Quote from: Andrew Heard on May 09, 2023, 18:04:46Quote from: TrulloF on May 09, 2023, 08:22:55I get lots of crashes in connection with point/track menu
very similar to me ;-(
PS. quick test - appears fixed in 4.16.0.3
Yes, seems to be fixed now. Great!
Hello menion,
is there any way to get a notification when there is a new beta.apk available for download on GD?
Since a while I have points doubled on map. One point is the original one. Others named like a route. I think I found how to reproduce the issue.
The base reason as far as I saw is, that the original point will be added as via point but it's not exactly on the street.
Steps to reproduce:
0. have a point not exactly on a street.
1. Goto route planner and add point 1
2+3. Add the point from step 0 as via point
4. Add point 3
5. Save route
6. Back in map the point fom step 0 is doubled
Next pictures
Correction. It's happens same way if point 2 is exactly on the street.
But then it'hard to see it on the map ;)
I think I've seen the same behaviour. hadn't mentioned, as thought it was just me. 2 points with same icon & name close together. One was my point, and in a folder, the nearby one I couldn't edit or delete. was quite odd.
In the current non-beta LM4, I can't find any themes in the store. (I answered a question in another thread related to themes, so I was curious.) I spent some time in the store totally lost, then found the "+" icon at the bottom of the theme switcher, which brought me to an empty page on the store.
This doesn't bother me personally, as I already have a nice collection of themes, which I scrounged from various places. But it brings up a suggestion:
Once things settle down with the V3-V4 transition, there's a real need for a central place to find themes. Not just supported themes, but even obsolete ones that still kind-of work; I sometimes still use Waymark because it just looks good. I often use Outdoor/Desert*, same reason, but who can find those themes? Even Voluntary, which jumped the hurdle to make it into the store, is no longer there ... or at least I can't find it.
(* To be clear, these are not obsolete, and fully deserve to be in the store.)
Someone else asked for it, I want to ask again.
The options of themes are not in reach, too deeply nested. WThey deserve to be easy to reach, so that we can easily change them.
The idea was to include Longtap on the theme button, which would instantly jump into theme options. Or maybe vice versa would make sense.
See screenshot.
Quote from: Viajero Perdido on May 12, 2023, 18:41:42In the current non-beta LM4, I can't find any themes in the store. (I answered a question in another thread related to themes, so I was curious.) I spent some time in the store totally lost, then found the "+" icon at the bottom of the theme switcher, which brought me to an empty page on the store.
*None* of the themes in the store would work with the new LoMaps! I don't know what the plans for the store are.
However the Voluntary theme is now compatible with old and new LoMaps as well as OAM maps. You can download it from https://voluntary.nichesite.org
Hello, if I activate offline points v4 maps show standard icons above the theme defined ones. V3 maps show the icons as intended (see attached screen shots). I remember v3 had similar problems, but it got fixed. Would be nice to have the old behavior back. Thanks.
Navigation shows a failure: the distance to next turn freezes at its initial value, while the voice announcements adapt to the nearing turn.
You can re-calculate, and the story just repeats.
Running latest Beta
And yet another observation:
1) I did an exercise with my S10 before its battery exploded (when the technician started to swap it for a new one): Locus 4, beta, burns 24-36% of battery capacity/hour when recording a track, screen off, no guiiding or alike
2) while repair was attempted, I got a brand new S10, same effect
3) after miracle repair of original S10 with new battery and new screen: same effect
@Menion: I sent you a PM with Locus log files attached as well as my settings ZIP from scenario #1
Any idea why this is?
TXs and cheers
Michael
20230508_121622-1.jpg
Quote from: michaelbechtold on May 14, 2023, 23:04:17Locus 4, beta, burns 24-36% of battery capacity/hour when recording a track, screen off, no guiiding or alike
I'm currently travelling & track recording many times per day with latest beta & no obvious change from about 4%/hour which has been similar/ same rate over the last few years.
Quote from: michaelbechtold on May 14, 2023, 21:49:19Navigation shows a failure: the distance to next turn freezes at its initial value, while the voice announcements adapt to the nearing turn.
You can re-calculate, and the story just repeats.
Running latest Beta
I can confirm this bug in latest beta.
Hello menion
if i want to add coord in a hidden WPT with 0 00.000 values
locus freeze with black screen while i save the corrected insert coords, after ~40 sec window appeares "wait" or "close"
After restart of locus the insert values are available
Hi guys,
some crashes and problems/questions regards the search should be solved or discussed by Marek and Radim in a separate topic. Thanks for your help here!
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@joeloc - so the last used point folder will be saved only when you confirm the point to edit.
- recording button with 50% opacity > I think this still won't solve your "burning" issue, so the best is really using a side panel with an auto-hide option.
So the only that remains is the copyright button ... hmm, there will be also a solution I believe.
@balloni55 notification on the new Beta version is not available, but I more and more think, it will be needed. Also for the AFA version!
Adding a "hidden WPT" > interesting. I have no such problem. May you post a GC code of the cache so I test it on the same point? Is it downloaded over Locus Map and stored in the database?
@CabrioTourer thanks for the detailed description of the "double-point problem". I've noted it and will look at it.
@Viajero Perdido All themes were temporarily removed from the Locus Store and
@voldapet is migrating them (or helping theme authors migrate (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8440.0)) to the new V4 system.
Also, I really would like to add more nice themes to the Store (mainly now, when the system for themes is identical to other apps), so anyone interested in publishing theme over Locus Store, feel free to contact Petr.
@Tapio side "Map content" panel is in rewrite - it will be introduced in the next version.
@TrulloF I'm a little lost here. The first screenshot is a new LoMap with offline LoPoints? Where these icons are from? :). Looks like your own personal points.
@Michael Bechtold Eh, never saw such a destroyed device ... I forget to respond to your email from April, sorry.
There is nothing to see in the log and can't imagine what the app has to do, to consume 24% of battery/h when the screen is off and the battery is disabled. Maybe if I integrate some Bitcoin miner, but it isn't there, I promise.
The app consumes so much battery for you even during normal daily usage? So even if you simply open the app and just watch the map?
QuoteAdding a "hidden WPT" > interesting. I have no such problem. May you post a GC code of the cache so I test it on the same point? Is it downloaded over Locus Map and stored in the database?
https://coord.info/GC1EY9D
Cache was insert with PQ long time ago and updated with Gc4L
problem accures on each WPT it doesn´t matter i select "my position" or insert coord values manual
For a short time mini map preview was blanc >somewhere in nowhere
Quote from: Menion on May 15, 2023, 14:33:59@TrulloF
I'm a little lost here. The first screenshot is a new LoMap with offline LoPoints? Where these icons are from? :). Looks like your own personal points.
First Screenshot is a v3 Lomap with LoPoints (offline activated). 2nd screenshot is a v4 LoMap also with LoPoints (offline) activated. No personal points involved. In v4 my themed points (png) get overlaid by svg LoPoints, where it should look like in the first screenshot with v3. Is this more clear now?
@balloni55
thanks, I'll look at it.
@TrulloF
ah understand. This is the correct behavior for now. Offline LoPoints has its own theme independent of the selected map theme. This is currently hardcoded in the app, but we are prepared to make this system public and allow the full setup of offline LoPoints for every theme.
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And that's all folks ... 4.17 is here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8445.0).