New Locus Map (4) version
Important links
- list of news (https://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/locus-map-version-4-14-18-1-2023) of public versions
- Public versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersions)
- Beta versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest)
Versions
18. 1. 2023 - Locus 4.14.0
23 1. 2023 - Locus 4.14.1
27. 1. 2023 - Locus 4.14.2
Hi to all. A little weird winter in most of Europe, not an ideal weather to some out-activity right? I was stuck on some really weird problems in the core of the Locus Map & Android & Gear watches etc. So this new version does not bring too many interesting news. Anyway new weather forecast & support for Garmin Varia radar should be usable additions. Enjoy it and winter as well ;)
Always good to have an update - and the list of changes is not small anyway, Menion :-)
I stumbled across one problem in beta as well as this latest release: when activating raster overlay maps (different ones, sitting in a _split folder) always tiles from another raster map (sitting in standard Locus/maps) are merged on top.
Any idea why that is?
TXs and cheers
Michael
PS: deleting cache and temp in the new Backup&filesystem sub-menu did not help.
Then I found (although the Locus root is INT SD/Locus), that on the private folder on INT SD the /cache/http folder is NOT cleared by above cleanup.
Is this on purpose or was that forgotten to implement?
TXs and cheers
Michael
PPS: sending a screenshoz to your personal mail, Menion.
Hi
@michaelbechtold , I do not like problems with map loading, you know it. After the years, it is starting to be a mystery also for me :)
Anyway, thanks for the screenshot. If you have enabled auto-loading, isn't this the problem? App tries to load some extra maps that may fill a missing tiles in the overlay?
"Cache directory" ... ah yes, both has to be deleted, thanks.
Ahh, Auto-Loading. I had a suspicion in that area as well, so I went from all sources to identical source. Assuming that the raster map (which has NO gaps) in a special _split folder would not be the same source as the "ghost" raster map in the /Locus/map folder.
Now I tried "no autoload" and the ghost tiles disappeared.
As the ghost tiles ONLY appear when the overlay is active, there is definitely an error in the respective Locus logic.
With no overlay, I can use any mode of auto load, without having ghost tiles.
Good luck and kind regards
Michael
Hello
When connecting to an external Bluetooth GPS receiver and viewing the "VDOP" value on the dashboard, the value is fixed at 5.0 and does not change.
(https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=11199;image)
Menion, we had discussion (many months or a year? ago) that sometimes the points panel displays one bottom menu, then other times a different bottom menu. It seems like a timing glitch. Now I'm using Android emulator NOX & editing a route from my PC I'm finding this "glitch" more & more. Attached 2 times I tap on same Via point - sometimes one menu, sometimes the other - so the dot-dot-dot menu is not always displayed which is confusing.can delete.jpgcant delete.jpg
Hello,
some small problems on the weather forecast part
Screenshot_20230124_064939_Locus Map.jpg
BLUE: seems to indicate "back" but its function is "exit"
RED: The unit of measure is misaligned due to the word "Percepita" causing the text to slip
YELLOW: This is not an error, but it is strange to see a 3 hour interval, it is usually hourly, but it is indicated and therefore if one pays attention to it, one should understand it.
The source of the weather data is never mentioned, which is now openweather
The user guide is out of date with references to Dark Sky
Hello.
For the word "visibility" in the new weather forecast, please take the translation from the Key:weather_visibility, not from the Key:visibility.
Thanks.
Track point view overlaps
@baegas
to check VDOP value and why it does not refresh, I'll need from you recorded NMEA messages created in the time, the problem was visible. It may be done by enabling NMEA recorded in the Locus Map > settings > GPS & sensors > NMEA recording. Thanks.
@Andrew Heard
problem with the bottom panel > it is a work in progress. We are preparing an updated version of this panel that will hopefully help here.
@lor74cas
Weather is discussed mainly here on the help desk (https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/weather-forecast-also-show-rain-and-cloud-probability). Two points are solved now. "Yellow", hmm, I do not know. I may delete value by 3, but on the second side, app display 3-hours interval ...
@freischneider
trackpoint view - heh, probably because of two lines caused by the long track name right? :). Hmm, thanks.
Quote from: Menion on January 27, 2023, 09:53:44@freischneider
trackpoint view - heh, probably because of two lines caused by the long track name right? :). Hmm, thanks.
Just tested --> yes because of 2 lines. With one line it is good.
Quote from: Menion on January 27, 2023, 09:53:44@lor74cas
Weather is discussed mainly here on the help desk (https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/weather-forecast-also-show-rain-and-cloud-probability). Two points are solved now. "Yellow", hmm, I do not know. I may delete value by 3, but on the second side, app display 3-hours interval ...
if you mean it as frequency it's better in 1h if you mean it as rainfall in time period then that's okay, but I'm used to the hourly frequency so it seemed anomalous to me
just for reminder I remember the unsolved problems of the previous post:
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?msg=69978
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?msg=69953
Quote from: Menion on January 27, 2023, 09:53:44@baegas
to check VDOP value and why it does not refresh, I'll need from you recorded NMEA messages created in the time, the problem was visible. It may be done by enabling NMEA recorded in the Locus Map > settings > GPS & sensors > NMEA recording. Thanks.
Hello
Attach NMEA message
2023-01-28.nmea
In "Partial auto hide" mode my bottom panel does not hide at all, but its icons are removed. I see, it's WIP.
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And in full autohide most buttons stay where they are, not beautiful.
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Remember just a few months ago when I complained about the silly and utterly useless super high contrast copyright button and risks for burnin?
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It now found its way to my screen permanently and gets brighter every day. Thank you, Locus BURNIN. If I weren't up for a new phone anyway, I'd be quite pissed off now.
I know I am a mega power user with 5+x hours locus screen on time at full brightness each day, but I can almost guarantee that you will destroy more displays pretty soon unless you finally do something about it.
QuoteIn "Partial auto hide" mode my bottom panel does not hide at all, but its icons are removed
Same with me on LM4 Gold
Quote from: Tapio on January 28, 2023, 12:21:29In "Partial auto hide" mode my bottom panel does not hide at all, but its icons are removed. I see, it's WIP.
...
+1 (.2 here)
Quote from: joeloc on January 28, 2023, 14:44:34Thank you, Locus BURNIN.
It's your choice to buy a phone with an immature screen technology, it's not Locus' fault.
Quote from: luce on February 01, 2023, 08:09:09It's your choice to buy a phone with an immature screen technology, it's not Locus' fault.
I remember joeloc's request and remember me thinking 'that's valid point and an useful enhancement, well known downside of static high-contrast pixel-sections'.
It's always easy if you're not (yet) affected, and as a long time Locus user and community member he just wants to communicate his dissatisfaction about this addressed potential issue, which is understandable.
Permutating positions is not a difficult matter, though functionality needs to get coded, tested and maintained.
while setting up LM4 in BlueStacks I've found a number of issues (I'll separate into a few posts because of the attachment limit):
main menu > All features > search: "backup" not found
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whereas main menu > Settings > search: "backup" correctly found
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why different?
main menu > notifications: count is not refreshed after the notifications are deleted. for example 1 notification:
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I then delete the notification:
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but after tapping Back, the count is not refreshed, still 1 notification listed
dashboard list: dot-dot-dot- menu for last dashboard is hidden behind "+" icon & there was no way to drag list up or down in order to show the menu
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initial Cloud Sync: I suggest that new points & tracks are not shown by default, because if there are lots of new points & tracks (generally the case when setting up a new device to sync to existing device), the device or virtual machine grinds to a halt/ runs out of memory
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and lastly unhelpful behavior when flight mode enabled/ wifi disabled (my mistake inside Windows virtual machine), and the Locus account login is attempted (I hope these are all useful & constructive):
main menu > tap Login (top bar): at this point LM could detect that there is no internet connection and display a helpful message and/or disable the 3 options:
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1) if I tap Google & select my account, LM just silently returns to the same "Locus account" screen
2) if I tap email, enter my address & password & tap Login, LM displays "Loading..." & never completes, although the Back button is still responsive
@lor74cas thanks for the reminder about older posts. The first is more on
@Radim V , I've informed him. Second about HEIC ... well even the latest Android 13 on Pixel 5 is unable to take photos in this format. Your Samsung device is capable of?
@baegas thanks for the NMEA file. I believe I've found a small issue. Will be fixed in the next app version.
@Tapio the bottom panel ... thanks, I still tune some remaining tiny problems like this.
@joeloc hmm, nice. Understand. I see a few solutions
- ignore this, oki, not ideal
- make this button semitransparent so the color on problematic pixels will change during usage
- make this button auto-hiding like the rest of the main screen UI (technically problematic because the button is connected directly to the map, not the map screen)
- allow hiding it completely, something I do not want to do because I still believe that copyright is must-have when using maps based on OpenStreetmap and others.
I'm choosing a change of style ... so the next version.
@Andrew Heard uff, so many found issues, I'm impressed, thanks!
"Search for backup" > backup manager was moved into the Settings into the new category "Backup & filesystem".
"Notifications" > improved
"Dashboard list" > this is really really interesting. I'm unable to simulate it. In my case, the app always inserts a small gap at the bottom of the list. Hmm, I have no idea why this happens, sorry.
"Login screen" > I've plan to invest some time into this one, so thanks, note to "TODO" list added.
Quote from: Menion on February 02, 2023, 10:32:36@lor74cas
thanks for the reminder about older posts. The first is more on @Radim V , I've informed him. Second about HEIC ... well even the latest Android 13 on Pixel 5 is unable to take photos in this format. Your Samsung device is capable of?
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-my-Android-photos-HEIC-instead-of-JPG
Quote from: Menion on February 02, 2023, 10:32:36"Search for backup" > backup manager was moved into the Settings into the new category "Backup & filesystem".
@Menion - yes but doing a Find should match "backup" right?
& your thoughts on Cloud Sync with new device? I think displaying all new POI & tracks by default is problematic - could crash the app if too many things to display - happened to me twice - instead did a full backup from old device into new virtual machine then restore, instead of Cloud Sync
New Beta version 4.14.2.1
@lor74cas
interesting readings, thanks! Quite a complicated task when HEIC is not natively supported in the Android API!
@Andrew Heard
Search in "All functions" is independent on the search in "Settings". For now ...
And points & tracks > I forget to write about it, sorry. A good point of course. In the next version, the first initial sync will ignore these settings, so points & tracks won't be automatically loaded!
V 4.14.2.1
map to preset 👍👍👍👍👍 well done :)
Quote from: Menion on February 03, 2023, 20:22:26Search in "All functions" is independent on the search in "Settings". For now ...
@Menion - OK no worries - but I would expect as a dumb user that a search from "All functions" or "Setting" would both find typed word "backup" right?
Can you also please explain meaning of new acronym "(LMA)" in release notes?
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New Map Source in Presets: very minor, but it would be nice after exit from display of "Map source" screen, that scroll position in presets list is preserved like every other dialog rather than a reset to top of presets list.
Routing Data Downloader: I may have reported this before: sometimes with zoom & pan, the already selected tiles are not correctly displayed:
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but now after very slight pan, the grid & tile color coding is gone:
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Cloud Sync: when track is saved on the website/ cloud, then device will get this popup, but does this 30 seconds make sense? and wording "DEV:..." sounds more like an internal programmer message:
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Quote from: balloni55 on February 03, 2023, 20:56:32V 4.14.2.1
map to preset 👍👍👍👍👍 well done :)
That's great.
@Menion
May I ask if you can add the long tap map to presets, too? This would be awesome.
New beta, great. Map source in presets, bottom panel working again, thank you.
Hi Menion, how to set up a position sharing in the Osm GO! app? For example, if I want to add a new point (Lopoint) at Osm Go! According to the photo shown in Locus.
And one more question. Would it be possible to add the item: "Assign to Lopoint" to the Photo menu in Locus? It would make it easier to add photos to the Lopoints, which after creating at Osm GO! Displays in Locus after a few days.
@Andrew Heard Search > unite results is currently technically impossible, sorry. Anyway there are voices in our team, to fully unite "All functions" and "Settings". Can't imagine how to do it thought :D
(LMA) in release notes > ignore for now. It is the shortcut for "Locus Map only". I'm just trying to simplify my work by writing single "News" page that will modify correctly if visible in the Locus Map or Locus Classic apps.
Scroll in Presets > improved, thanks.
Invisible tiles in downloader > sorry for this. This is anyway a problem in the app most probably since begin. It is an issue on the -180/180 longitude border and I was not able to find a solution on it. For now ...
"Sync message" > it is enabled in the Beta version for testing anyway oki, time to disable it. And 30 seconds? It makes sense to me. It is an internal parameter of how long the app waits till the moment any change in data is detected, till synchronization starts.
@CabrioTourer Presets > https://help.locusmap.eu/search/tag:presets
@Žajdlík Josef I do not know about any method how to simply send the location to OSMGo for adding a new point. This is probably a task on me, to contact this app developer and discuss any options.
Adding photos to LoPoints, this is task on
@Marek Scholtz anyway this is close to the topic you created on the help desk (https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/30355-cz-jednoduch%C3%A1-tvorba-lopoint%C5%AF). We've discussed it in the office next week and we agree there is a space for improvements, we were not yet able to find out any universal solution. Thanks for understanding.
Beta version 4.14.2.1
The VDOP values refresh in the dashboard just fine
Thank you
The normally connected ntrip server is not connected
Can't find mount point
I don't know if it's a server problem, so I connected to another ntrip client app.
In other ntrip client apps, it connects well.
hostname:www.gnssdata.or.kr
port:2101
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I've read criticism about Locus not supporting rotating text on the map for better readability. Probably a bigger thing, something that has implications on performance. @Menion, are you planning to work on this? I'd love if it would rotate text 180 (unnoticeable) - if necessary. Screenshot.
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Did someone also notice that the "Supplementary Map Download" functionality is basically broken, at least starting with Android 13? Even though I'm using the sideloaded AFA build.
The problem is that Locus seems to always store downloaded maps in its Android/data/menion.android.locus directory, but when I choose "Supplementary Download", I cannot choose that directory (Android/data is shown empty). I can choose Android/media/menion.android.locus, but I don't get the map there. Even Total Commander with AFA is not able to read the downloaded map file within Android/data, so I can't move it manually.
Menion, could the file chooser be changed such that it can also show Locus' internal directory?
I've been using both, the Personal and the Supplementary download feature successfully recently. And I just checked on my Tab S6l which got Android 13 recently: I can navigate freely where to put the target.
Yet, a couple of things:
- while I'm using the AFA version, too, I kept the Locus root at IntSD/Locus, which makes life much easier
- in any case, with x-plore you can copy/paste/move files from, in and into the private /Android/data structures at will (after granting all the permissions)
Cheers
Michael
Another Locus Burnin victim... not a cheap "S20FE" this time but last year's flagship phone Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra. Not even one year old and not even mine, so you cannot blame it on extreme power user habits :-).
How many more phones to destroy until you realize Locus has a problem? Obviously other apps would burn in as well, but it's LOCUS that is visible all the time at full brightness. That's the job of an outdoor navigation app after all, isn't it?
So what's going to happen? My gf is scared to use Locus on her brand new S23ultra now... and she is right... Locus is a phone killer :-(
s22ultra-locusburnin1.jpg
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@CabrioTourer
hmm, let's try to add the first three presets under long click as well (you may drag & drop the list to sort them if needed).
@baegas
NTRIP server in Korea is a problem. If I remember correctly, we tried to test it but for an unknown reason, I'm unable to connect from the middle of Europe.
Still the same problem even after a week?
@Tapio
well, you know it is not easy to solve right? ???
@slarti76
Hmm map tile download ... it still somebody uses? Nice :). I'll look at it...
@joeloc
hmm nice main menu in display. And what you suggest? With Locus Map 4 you may hide everything except "Copyright" button. But this one will be in the next app version semi-transparent, so at least a little smaller problem.
Quote from: Menion on February 20, 2023, 11:30:35@Tapio
well, you know it is not easy to solve right? ???
Yes, I guess so, I understand that. That's why I was asking if you consider implementing it. 👍
New Beta version 4.14.2.3
Two main changes
- support for LoMaps based on the MapsForge V4, more info here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8309.msg70334#msg70334)
- a new system for compute of uphill/downhill elevations. Results are usually about 10% smaller than the old system, but cover better smaller unwanted changes (0 - 5 meters) that happen on the flat. Give it a try and let me know if results are more realistic. This change does not affect incorrectly received altitude value (jumps)!
Quote from: Menion on February 20, 2023, 11:30:35@baegas
NTRIP server in Korea is a problem. If I remember correctly, we tried to test it but for an unknown reason, I'm unable to connect from the middle of Europe.
Still the same problem even after a week?
Hello
It's the same even if you access it with the updated beta file today
However, it works normally in "SW Maps" and "Bluetooth GNSS", which are other NTRIP access apps.
Is it possible to get (revert to) APK 4.14.2.1? Latest 4.14.2.3 is running horribly slow for me.
@baegas
Oki, I'll rather try it with service in Czech and let you know. But most probably Beta version with some special logging will be necessary.
@Andrew Heard
no matter what map you use? Revert is not so easy mainly because old files are deleted forever...
@joeloc Quotehmm nice main menu in display. And what you suggest? With Locus Map 4 you may hide everything except "Copyright" button. But this one will be in the next app version semi-transparent, so at least a little smaller problem.
I don't know a perfect solution... but Locus is responsible for destroying amoled displays for a long time now. It has by definition by far the longest screen on time at the brightest setting of any app. Putting some more thoughts into this is overdue.
Auto hiding the menu bars is obvious... but what about other elements? Like track recording icon? GPS icon? Scale?
Maybe a little transparency for these (80%?) could help, without causing too much usability trouble? A better but more complex solution might be to shift the whole UI around SLIGHTLY by a few pixels every day. Half a millimeter or something is hardly recognizable but will go a long way in protecting displays.
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Quote from: joeloc on February 21, 2023, 10:05:25@joeloc
Quotehmm nice main menu in display. And what you suggest? With Locus Map 4 you may hide everything except "Copyright" button. But this one will be in the next app version semi-transparent, so at least a little smaller problem.
I don't know a perfect solution... but Locus is responsible for destroying amoled displays for a long time now. It has by definition by far the longest screen on time at the brightest setting of any app. Putting some more thoughts into this is overdue.
Auto hiding the menu bars is obvious... but what about other elements? Like track recording icon? GPS icon? Scale?
Maybe a little transparency for these (80%?) could help, without causing too much usability trouble? A better but more complex solution might be to shift the whole UI around SLIGHTLY by a few pixels every day. Half a millimeter or something is hardly recognizable but will go a long way in protecting displays.
Screenshot_20230221_095203_Locus Map.jpg
I think they are exaggerating a bit here. Why do they always have the screen on ? Normally they are hiking or biking and look at the path. On Locus you look only if you need information. So the screen can stay off 70% of the time.
Quote from: freischneider on February 21, 2023, 12:41:47I think they are exaggerating a bit here. Why do they always have the screen on ? Normally they are hiking or biking and look at the path. On Locus you look only if you need information. So the screen can stay off 70% of the time.
Yes, I agree, but everyone uses his device as he sees fit, in my case:
I start recording with Locus and only use the phone to take pictures or at crossroads when I have to choose which way to go, so during any excursion Locus is only active for a few minutes.
I prefer to turn it on for a few seconds and thanks to the high contrast of the icons I can see all the details even in full light, changing these settings in my case would be worse.
The copyright symbol could be less shiny (it's only there as a requirement) and that wouldn't be a problem, but the other icons the way I use them shouldn't be changed.
In addition, the displays have timers that first reduce the brightness and then turn off the display to avoid this type of problem, just set a timer that suits your needs.
Perhaps the problem arises for those who use Locus as a navigator in the car and want to leave it always active. If this is the problem, it would be useful to tie the brightness of the icons to a profile for example for use in the car.
Quote from: Menion on February 21, 2023, 07:48:04no matter what map you use? Revert is not so easy mainly because old files are deleted forever...
I only tried the new Ireland map when screen was going black; I was only using New Zealand map when CPU slow. I shouldn't have been tempted to test while on holiday. I can't test more sorry. I WAS able to revert to public 4.14.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on February 21, 2023, 21:09:11I WAS able to revert to public 4.14.
Please give me a hint how you did it.
I'm using Openandromaps oam maps. The automatic switch from one to another don't work anymore. I'm living near a map border and that's pretty bad.
Would like to check if this is because of the new Locus version I installed recently.
Ok, that was easy. Reverted to 4.14.2.1 and map switch work now.
@Menion
Looks like a bug at least in 4.14.2.3. I hope you can fix it.
unrelated question: I wanted to duplicate a preset as a starting point - they may each contain a LOT of settings. I tried just copying & renaming the .LB file but LM was totally confused when displaying the list. Renaming 1 preset via LM renamed both. Moving the list position of 1 screwed up whole list. I know - I'm doing something unintended, my stupidity. Could each preset in the list have a Duplicate item in its ... menu along with Rename, Edit, Remove? Not important;-)
Quote from: CabrioTourer on February 21, 2023, 21:49:05Quote from: Andrew Heard on February 21, 2023, 21:09:11I WAS able to revert to public 4.14.
Please give me a hint how you did it.
@CabrioTourer backed-up settings, uninstalled beta, unsubscribed as beta tester in app store, installed public 4.12, ran LM & logged in, restored settings, restart, all good.
@menion - I've done many LM backup/ restores over the years, and this one is least trouble - no trouble! Well done!
Quote from: CabrioTourer on February 21, 2023, 21:59:05Ok, that was easy. Reverted to 4.14.2.1
did you have a saved APK for 2.1?
Quote from: Andrew Heard on February 22, 2023, 05:31:18did you have a saved APK for 2.1?
Sorry, I used SwiftBackup.
Quote from: freischneider on February 21, 2023, 12:41:47I think they are exaggerating a bit here. Why do they always have the screen on ? Normally they are hiking or biking and look at the path. On Locus you look only if you need information. So the screen can stay off 70% of the time.
Exaggerating? I can assure you the permanently burnt in locus on our screens is very real, on multiple phones meanwhile. And Locus is not even configured to be always on, I'd estimate around 3-4 hours total at full brightness each day (on bicycle handlebars). That's apparently enough to kill displays in less than a year. Affected so far: Samsung Galaxy S10+, S20FE, S22Ultra. Next in line waiting for Locus tattoo: S23Ultra.
Obviously this is a "power user scenario" that won't affect too many people. But why kill displays if you don't have to? Software counter measures (ui pixel shifting) should be rather simple.
Alternatively, should Locus warn people with a huge red alert when your screen on time exceeds 2 hours for the day? "DEAR USER, PLEASE TURN ME OFF, YOU'RE USING ME WRONG" :-)
Btw... downloading openandromaps internally in Locus has always been about 5-10 times(!) slower than downloading the same file directly in a web browser (1000 mbit line). Some less than ideal http download code? Minimalistic buffer sizes?
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With Locus I can reach about 1MB per second. With Chrome or Brave, download speed is closer to 10MB per second.
Quote from: joeloc on February 23, 2023, 13:30:20Quote from: freischneider on February 21, 2023, 12:41:47I think they are exaggerating a bit here. Why do they always have the screen on ? Normally they are hiking or biking and look at the path. On Locus you look only if you need information. So the screen can stay off 70% of the time.
Exaggerating? I can assure you the permanently burnt in locus on our screens is very real, on multiple phones meanwhile. And Locus is not even configured to be always on, I'd estimate around 3-4 hours total at full brightness each day (on bicycle handlebars). That's apparently enough to kill displays in less than a year. Affected so far: Samsung Galaxy S10+, S20FE, S22Ultra. Next in line waiting for Locus tattoo: S23Ultra.
Obviously this is a "power user scenario" that won't affect too many people. But why kill displays if you don't have to? Software counter measures (ui pixel shifting) should be rather simple.
Alternatively, should Locus warn people with a huge red alert when your screen on time exceeds 2 hours for the day? "DEAR USER, PLEASE TURN ME OFF, YOU'RE USING ME WRONG" :-)
I have a 3 years old mobile with Amoled screen. During all that time I use it 21 hours a week with screen on in Locus Map. The screen is perfect.
Serious problem for me, recent beta. Track save Intent not working. Anyone? Tasker is heavily developed as well rn, lots to sort out because Google, so, idk who's to blame.
tasks: { track_record : { action: "stop", auto_save: true } }
Just one action in this task. Run it in Tasker. The recording continues. Android 10.
https://taskernet.com/shares/?user=AS35m8kdDIMDeveQcQfRglam%2Fah1mTW%2FWcg05FZ39c0i1q%2F77iY3E7cIwxCkXqJTaTA%3D&id=Task%3ASaveRecLocus
EDIT: I noticed, I had to bring LM4 to front, ie. fully load it. Then saving via intent worked. Usually that was not necessary. Just fire recording start and save via intent, no need to bring up the full UI.
Ooh, since I use automation, but it doesn't stop the recording, it creates a new track on every intent firing. See screenshot.
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Just a quick info from me > sorry for the delay in answers this week. After 10 years, we were moving to the new office (again in Prague), so this week was more about this than some useful work. Next week will be better and I'll for sure answer all questions & problems. Thanks for understanding and have a nice weekend!
installed latest beta 4.14.2.3
all fine and smooth
I am using AFA with maps and themes at
(internal)sdcard/Locus/
So far only OAM-vector with Elevate-theme, voluntaryUK-theme and activeRT5, and some Mobac-rasters, so quite simple setup
no doubled entries btw
plan is to checkout situation with Lomaps and MF-theme next
@joeloc
with Locus Map 4, you may hide everything except @ symbol. And this one will be semi-transparent with the next app version. This is ok, isn't it?
Downloading speed for OAM maps: hard to say. I've increased mentioned buffer a little, so let me know if it helps. Anyway, everything on the background is quite new so there should be no software slowdown.
@CabrioTourer
auto-load of V4 maps does not work? Hmm ... (after some testing) ... it worked before?? Do not understand how this was possible. Anyway, I've found a method how to make it work so the next version.
Important: because the next LoMaps will be also based on the V4 theme, I've improved the auto-loading system. The app will auto-load only LoMaps when the base map is LoMap and the opposite. So it won't do a mess by auto-loading incorrect maps (maps with different content & theme). Needs testing though.
@Andrew Heard
Duplication of presets > oki, next version
@Tapio
intent to start recording: blame Google! Anyway ;) ... check app is not battery optimized. Probably best to open the side track recording panel. There should be no!! blue box that informs about battery optimization. Then it should work.
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New version with some fixes tomorrow.
Quote from: Menion on February 28, 2023, 14:32:22@Tapio
intent to start recording: blame Google! Anyway ;) ... check app is not battery optimized. Probably best to open the side track recording panel.
No, not batt. optimized. It's the Save intent btw. I'm using a workaround now. First "app start locus map", then fire the intent... it is a bit ugly, but reliably saves.
@Menion
You mean auto load shouldn't work? Never had a issue with it.
I could even reproduce it. In newest Locus it doesn't work. Back to 2.1 it works.
Ivm living near a map border. Would be a big mess to switch back and force all the time. Thanks that you had a look.
trivial: Locus store top left side icon flickers while downloading map - see attached video
HI,
I noticed that several forms have the back button <- but in fact they don't go back to the previous form but exit completely.
Therefore:
for buttons <-- the forms should go back to the previous form
or
they should be modified with X to indicate the exit.
New
Beta version 4.14.2.4 just uploaded.
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@lor74cas This is a topic I was thinking about a few weeks ago. First, currently best solution I have, is in the weather screen. Cross button in the top-left that always closes the screen + hardware back allowing return from detail to full overview or close also.
Which screen has currently a major problems?
Quote from: Menion on March 01, 2023, 11:06:49New Beta version 4.14.2.4 just uploaded.
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@lor74cas
This is a topic I was thinking about a few weeks ago. First, currently best solution I have, is in the weather screen. Cross button in the top-left that always closes the screen + hardware back allowing return from detail to full overview or close also.
Which screen has currently a major problems?
all-> general-> any sub screen / do not go back to General with back button
all-> map tools -> any sub screen / do not go back to MAP TOOLS with back button
ALL -> TRACK -> TRACK MANAGER ...
Quote from: Tapio on March 01, 2023, 13:06:20MFV4 Lomaps.
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b) When will they be in the store?
AFAIK Menion tried to cover all reg. this in a separate thread
LoMaps + MapsForge V4 (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8309.0)
See the google-drive-link over there for available maps
@Menion auto load: Nope sorry. Still a problem.
Strange thing is that some elements are partly there. Don't know if it was the same with prev Beta.
See Screenshot. Zoom in/out doesn't help
I noticed the online/offline Lopoints are really small. If things are too small, maybe the elderly amongst us forgot their glasses, we can use Zoom Lock.
Shouldn't the Lopoint vector overlays scale according to the zoom lock? In my screenshot, the zoomlock zoom is at 300%.
Screenshot_20230301_155509.jpg
Could it be that auto load is in fact an drawing algorithm issue?
I tested the following. I use newest beta. I go to an border and zoom in/out. Nothing happens. I see very small parts from the "outer" map. The part with selected map is fine.
I stop Locus and install 2.1.
After start I see exactly the same picture. The selected map is fully drawn. The other map only very few small parts.
Now I zoom in/out. Takes a while but after some sec it draws all.
Install again newest beta. Partly shown map. Zoom in/out doesn't update the non selected map. Even other parts are not drawn
Check bottom half of the Screenshot in post above.Looks a bit like drawing algorithm stopped completely.
Honestly, I don't use LoPoints as the whole UI-experience gives me more stress than something of use.
But LoPoints-rework is already somewhere on 2do IIRC.
Nevertheless, using new MF4-maps and LoPoints-offline and going for 'Points around' and doing this twice seems to give me doubled results, the icons are slightly different with outline and shadow and without.
edit: doubled entries are given if additionally the eye in menu is enabled. Btw would expect to have points not shown at all if eye is disabled
edit2: might be due to other .dB available in other folders
beta 4.14.2.4
Quote from: T-mo on March 01, 2023, 19:53:55Honestly, I don't use LoPoints as the whole UI-experience gives me more stress than something of use.
But LoPoints-rework is already on top of 2do IIRC.
Nevertheless, using new MF4-maps and LoPoints-offline and going for 'Points around' and doing this twice seems to give me doubled results, the icons are slightly different with outline and shadow and without.
edit: doubled entries are given if additionally the eye in menu is enabled. Btw would expect to have points not shown at all if eye is disabled
edit2: might be due to other .dB available in other folders
beta 4.14.2.4
do you use OAM ? I also had double points because OAM also places the points database in the automatic DL. You get then LoPoi and OAM Poi displayed. OAM Poi but unfortunately you can not hide. It goes only with database delete. But you have to do that again with every update.
Here the user interface would have to be extended to be able to show and hide OAM Poi.
Quote from: freischneider on March 01, 2023, 20:14:59do you use OAM ? I also had double points because OAM also places the points database in the automatic DL. You get then LoPoi and OAM Poi displayed. OAM Poi but unfortunately you can not hide. It goes only with database delete. But you have to do that again with every update.
Here the user interface would have to be extended to be able to show and hide OAM Poi.
Oh yes, I do.
But each .map.db-combo in its folder.
OAM-Germany_north
.map
.db
LoMap-MF4
.map
.db
I assume 'points around' and eye-symbol are controlling taken db and visibility differently.
@Menion : My issue is solved. I installed newest Elevate from OAM. I don't know which version I had before. Shouldn't be that old but who knows.
I tried it on a second device with same result. With old elevate I have this issue. With new one it's solved.
Just that you know.
4.14.2.4 beta: my existing presets have every possible setting visible. When I duplicate a preset the visibility of these non-default settings is ignored. The map theme & dashboard also appears to revert to the default.
The duplicated preset name in the list is the same as the original but when the duplicate is renamed it has "- copy" appended - inconsistent.
@lor74cas
hmm back button to the menu ... it is something I'm not perfectly OK with. The list of functions, even if it looks like a full screen, is closing when any function starts (like a small dialog). So "back" has nowhere to return. And I personally never had a problem with it.
@CabrioTourer
auto-loading: I saw something like this before as well. Hard to say if I'll be able to help, we will see :)
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Ah solved with the theme. Interesting!
@Tapio
by default, LoPoints scale with the "Magnify all maps" value. You may overwrite this setting with the "LoPoint icon size" settings. The fact that points do not scale with "Zoom lock" is correct from my point of view. With the next (new) LoMaps, points won't be visible directly on the map at all, so what you see (scaled point in the map & active point above) won't happen anymore.
@T-mo & @freischneider
I plan to re-work online&offline LoPoints system in the next months (unite & simplify), thanks for your patience.
@Andrew Heard
Sorry, it was task 5-minutes before release and I've not tested it properly, my bad. Will look at it!
Anyway what is the problem with naming? Simple " - copy" in the end should be improved?
I noticed inconsistencies in the display of below recording icon. Screenshot was taken after recording has ended. I also saw the opposite: no rec icon while Locus was recording. Can anything be done about it? Android 10 here.
Screenshot_20230303_083303_com.teslacoilsw.launcher_edit_235487995278128.jpg
Interesting. Never seen a such problem and can't imagine what to do with it, sorry.
Quote from: Menion on March 03, 2023, 08:31:07@lor74cas
hmm back button to the menu ... it is something I'm not perfectly OK with. The list of functions, even if it looks like a full screen, is closing when any function starts (like a small dialog). So "back" has nowhere to return. And I personally never had a problem with it.
you didn't have any problems because you are the developer ;D and you don't explore the functions of the app like a normal user, or a forgetful like me. I often navigate the locus menus and to do that I start from "all the function" and when I go back I expect to go back to the previous window instead of being slammed on the map, it's not pleasant.
You can always say it's a feature and not a bug, but that claim has been used in the past to little effect ::)
Quote from: Menion on March 03, 2023, 08:31:07Sorry, it was task 5-minutes before release and I've not tested it properly, my bad. Will look at it!
Anyway what is the problem with naming? Simple " - copy" in the end should be improved?
@menion - no worries at all - it's a beta. After duplicating, there are 2 presets with the same name in the list - confusing? The 2nd should have "- copy" appended?
@Menion - Presets aren't part of the "config only" backup - I was shocked and surprised! They absolutely should be in. The config backup is pretty bare-bones. IMO also Brouter profiles should be in. And dashboards. And interpolators.
It's all settings, it's all result of our time investment, it's all small. I think it already was in.
@tapio are you really sure about Presets? I'm shocked too! How can you/ I check? Totally agree if that's true. I thought this was discussed & improved not long ago - recall @menion was copying RD5 files (or only in full backup?) & the ZIP was suddenly much larger. The backup screen could also have a question mark icon that when tapped sumarizes precisely what is & isn't backed up.
When I do a settings backup then restore, the screen has a single checkbox for "settings", which suggests it was intended for future expansion - didn't it used to have other checkboxes?
Screenshot_2023-03-05-08-30-37.jpeg
@Andrew, I guess Menion messed something up last time. Yes we discussed it, Menion added stuff I suggested (brouter profiles) to the full backup, but accidentally? removed from the config only backup.
How check? Look into the backup zip in <see path in screenshot, Android 10>. Screenshot: data folder inside of zip.
Yes, of course, and the more I think about it, the more I'm sure there were many checkboxes to select what to restore. So this is a very important bug you've found.
maybe we need backup-presets.. ;D just need to drop this joke
(sure, backup 'settings only' should to be closer to 'full' but without \data\database as some configurations are missing)
The system of backups needs to recreate. I wrote about it a few days ago (again). So use it as is. I need to find a time (week or rather too) and unite "settings" + "full" backups into a single system with options ...
Not sure if that was reported already, but since a while*, the "Recording" notification is not updated anymore. Ever. Always shows something like "1 point". Reproducible with Galaxy S21 and XCover Pro.
Perhaps related with me always starting recording with intents or Locus Tasker app.
Am I the only one?
* Didn't report it earlier because it doesn't really bother me, don't really need the info displayed there, but now I once or twice thought "sh**, it's not recoeding", when it actually was...
4.14.2.4 long tap Preset button: the 3 user presets displayed in the menu are a random set from the total collection. I suggest (up to) the 1st 3 from the list are displayed in the long tap menu, and in same order as those in the single tap list.
@slarti76
You are not the first who write about it during the last few months. And I still have no idea why this happens on some devices, but most probably the result of some battery optimization ...
@Andrew Heard
ah, my bad, thanks!
Quote from: Menion on March 06, 2023, 11:08:32The system of backups needs to recreate.... I need to find a time (week or rather too)...
If you work on it please add no-go area,too.
Quote from: CabrioTourer on March 07, 2023, 17:13:54Quote from: Menion on March 06, 2023, 11:08:32The system of backups needs to recreate.... I need to find a time (week or rather too)...
If you work on it please add no-go area,too.
Alternative would be the NoGo would bein a separate folder at points.
Then they would be automatically saved and you can manage them well.
Quote from: freischneider on March 07, 2023, 18:02:30Alternative would be the NoGo would bein a separate folder at points.
Then they would be automatically saved and you can manage them well.
+1
Thanks to all! Let's move to another version: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8330.0