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Important links
- list of news (https://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/locus-map-version-4-11-26-7-2022) of public versions
- Public versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersions)
- Beta versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest)

Versions
26. 7. 2022 - Locus 4.11.0
11. 8. 2022 - Locus 4.11.1

using 4.11 as of today

I suggest to pause latest brainstorming on presets for some releases and updated features, until new calls possible, probably Menion and team save existing links, ideas and comments to some MS OneNote or alike. BR

you probably find only 0.01% of users use Presets, so far bigger fish to fry; maybe there are analytics behind the scenes to justify development in certain areas

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 27, 2022, 00:55:08
you probably find only 0.01% of users use Presets, so far bigger fish to fry; maybe there are analytics behind the scenes to justify development in certain areas

Andrew Why do you think so? I think Locus Presets needs. Without them I can not even imagine using locus.

It is not too important how much they (presets) are currently used. They are a core part of the app and many users a) do not know they exist or b) use them without knowing they exist (they are predefined for navigation).

Anyway, I think there definitely is a space for improvements. I've also created a task with a link to the discussion in "4.10 version" topic, so I'll for sure look at it and let you know.

Hello menion
thanks for the new version with LoPoint photos.
My question, how should a "normal" user of Locus find this function?
Neither under the search in Locus or the knowledge base nor in the blogpost are there any hints.
I myself had to search for a long time until I found this post...
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7994.0

there is a small display problem with me, see SS

where do I find the NTRIP function in the official version? I am lucky to have this function saved in a preset

Quoteoption to limit LoPoint photo uploading with wifi-only setting

where can i find this setting option

Hello,
HEIC format is not supported in lopoints for adding users photos.

Hello,
in the locus profile editor, trying to change the profile picture, the filename too long moved the save button out to the right.
You need a line break based on the screen width of the filename or something else to show the save button correctly

Hi guys,
thanks for the feedback regards LoPoints. These questions are mainly for Marek and @Radim V, who is responsible for this feature on the Android device.

@balloni55
NTRIP: it is not (yet) included in the public version. I still think it needs a little more testing. Does it work when you "restore" the panel from presets? Funny, it is more a mistake then intent :)

@lor74cas
and the situation complicates because this part is for @janaton  :)

QuoteDoes it work when you "restore" the panel from presets?

you mean if I restore the settings from a backup?

I don't want to lose NTRIP, but as you ask, there is a possibility that after restoring the backup, the function is no longer available...
Or have I understood this wrong

Quote from: Žajdlík Josef on July 27, 2022, 07:45:25

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 27, 2022, 00:55:08
you probably find only 0.01% of users use Presets, so far bigger fish to fry; maybe there are analytics behind the scenes to justify development in certain areas

Andrew Why do you think so? I think Locus Presets needs. Without them I can not even imagine using locus.

@Žajdlík Josef - LM4 5M+ downloads, LM3 probably even more, but just a few regular beta users in this forum. I agree with you Presets are a great power-user feature but it would be interesting to see how many out of 10M+ Locus users are aware of & use this feature. I'm just trying to say with limited developer resources there are possibly more important areas to develop that would give more bang-for-your-buck for more users.

In this review of 6 best navigation apps for bicycle touring https://wobblyride.com/2022/03/29/best-navigation-apps-for-bicycle-touring/ (https://wobblyride.com/2022/03/29/best-navigation-apps-for-bicycle-touring/) sadly IMHO Locus is not mentioned. I have experimented with all other 6 apps (long time ago) and settled on LM as the best. I would suggest every LM user who reads the review, adds a comment to promote LM and provide wider exposure.

Quote from: Menion on July 25, 2022, 08:55:17
eh 1500m jump, that is not nice  :). Well, the app already skips the first few locations to avoid these problems. But I also noticed almost everytime, that the first few points have a higher elevation than it should be. Oki, thanks for the push, I'll at least look it ...

@Menion et. al. it was quite interesting to read in topic/29047-force-full-gnss-measurements-setting-android-12-and-up-no-more-digging-into-the-android-system (https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/29047-force-full-gnss-measurements-setting-android-12-and-up-no-more-digging-into-the-android-system) about the GPSTest app. Although my phone is getting old (Galaxy A520 2017, Android 8 ) I am still encouraged to see (attached) from GPSTest app there is a Vertical Dilution of Position (VDOP) which gives an indication of GPS vertical accuracy. So it should be possible to require a VDOP threshold before  track recording is enabled in the same way as existing settings - Track Recording > profile.x > Required GPS (horizontal) accuracy.

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 28, 2022, 01:35:20

Quote from: Žajdlík Josef on July 27, 2022, 07:45:25

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 27, 2022, 00:55:08
you probably find only 0.01% of users use Presets, so far bigger fish to fry; maybe there are analytics behind the scenes to justify development in certain areas

Andrew Why do you think so? I think Locus Presets needs. Without them I can not even imagine using locus.

@Žajdlík Josef - LM4 5M+ downloads, LM3 probably even more, but just a few regular beta users in this forum. I agree with you Presets are a great power-user feature but it would be interesting to see how many out of 10M+ Locus users are aware of & use this feature. I'm just trying to say with limited developer resources there are possibly more important areas to develop that would give more bang-for-your-buck for more users.

In this review of 6 best navigation apps for bicycle touring https://wobblyride.com/2022/03/29/best-navigation-apps-for-bicycle-touring/ (https://wobblyride.com/2022/03/29/best-navigation-apps-for-bicycle-touring/) sadly IMHO Locus is not mentioned. I have experimented with all other 6 apps (long time ago) and settled on LM as the best. I would suggest every LM user who reads the review, adds a comment to promote LM and provide wider exposure.

All cyclists and tourists I know want a simple application of free Mapy.cz do not want to think about the settings and options that Locus applications offer. I think that the Locus team knows it and does not compete directly with them. Mapy.cz or Google have big teams of people.
I agree with Menion that the presets will have to be modified, but it takes more discussion on this topic.

Usability vs. features, the old story.
All cyclists and tourist... after all, want a stupid app capable of... not much..., hence easy to operate. The most successful one would be the one which is most shiny, most fireworks on top of nothingness, where they can put most of their belief in. There's a word for it: Apple.
I prefer competence over fireworks. And I admit, after all those years we deal with IT, I'm pretty disappointed by the users average level.
Sorry for the arrogant hate post, sometimes I need that 😁

Quote from: balloni55 on July 27, 2022, 12:45:40

Quoteoption to limit LoPoint photo uploading with wifi-only setting

where can i find this setting option

Hi @balloni55,

wifi only connection switch is present in Settings in Miscellaneous section.

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 28, 2022, 01:35:20
sadly IMHO Locus is not mentioned. I have experimented with all other 6 apps (long time ago) and settled on LM as the best

It's helpful to see what the expectations are. What I take from this is URL you posted, POI are of importance for many users. With OAM poi available offline, Locus has all that's needs, but the usability could be much better. Things like "POI along the route", "POI sets" (define a set of userdef poi categories)... But Menion is aware of.
Aw and that horrible scrollscrollscroll-Add100-scrollscroll-another100... Lopoi screen.

@tapio - was watching your amazing YouTube videos. It all goes very quickly & it's hard to see what's happening & why. No captions. But all sorts of clever tricks I never knew were possible. Thanks.

Quote from: Marek Scholtz on July 28, 2022, 09:14:36

wifi only connection switch is present in Settings in Miscellaneous section.

Hello Marek
thank you for your answer.
I was not sure since the heading there is "Import/Export".
Greetings Wolfgang

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 28, 2022, 09:53:51
@tapio - was watching your amazing YouTube videos. It all goes very quickly & it's hard to see what's happening & why. No captions. But all sorts of clever tricks I never knew were possible. Thanks.

Thanks. I am aware of it, they're bad, but cannot invest much time. Should probably press on screen longer, there's a white spot there. I am always considering sharing, but I also know tasks are complex and people with just a bit knowledge of Tasker will need support. That's holding me back. And all sorts of error handling needed if you share stuff.
Tasker+Falcos Locus plugin+Locus = holy trinity 😁

4.11.0
Crash
- only with GPS on
1. choosing a recorded track, show on map
2. on map, select track, track infos pop up
3. choose navigate button
4. choosing guidance, start > crash

Quote from: T-mo on July 29, 2022, 18:40:03
4.11.0
Crash
- only with GPS on
1. choosing a recorded track, show on map
2. on map, select track, track infos pop up
3. choose navigate button
4. choosing guidance, start > crash

Not happening for me.

The new copyright button on top right is super horrible. Is there any way to disable that pretty please? Like a "I have acknowledged the Copyright for this map, remove the button" link when you first display the message for each map?

Besides of getting in the way visually and being hit accidently (moving bicycle on bumpy roads..
not while sitting in a chair...), it WILL cause OLED burn in with its super high contrast. Other parts of Locus UI have done that as well for me and are now permanent on my current phone... and my previous phones. Which reminds me... any chance of slightly moving the whole UI around by a few pixels every now and then somehow? If you run Locus outdoors, display will always be super bright and maybe always on and burn in will occur after a while for power users. All my Samsung devices going back to at least the S8 suffer from burned in Locus UI actually. S10 does, my GFs S20 does, my current S20FE also does (after 16 months heavy Locus use).

Obviously it's Samsungs fault, not Locus. But anyway... Locus is the only App that runs at 1000 nits many hours a day, so it causes by far the most stress for your Display.

I currently observe:

- Audio coach not reliably turned on or off. Coach seems to be eg. forgotten from the recent recording? Those are bound to recording profiles, which are activated via presets here. And those are activated via an intent here.

Edit: While recording and switching recording profiles, it does not change the currently running audio coach. I think it should.

- Navigation, "Next turn panel" style was reset to the big default size for whatever reason.

Anyone?

Hi.  I see that on wide screens, the point detail panel now appears on the right, rather than the bottom as before.

It would be very nice if a horizontal swipe could dismiss this panel.  (I keep trying and failing.)  Thanks.

after last update to 4.11, my map no longer show icons for any POIs on the map, like gas stations, stores, bus stations...
I use City theme, no other configuration has changed, I have this both in Locus 3 and 4.

and is there a place online where I can check the date for the latest map build?
last time, my Locus app saw in April the map update released in March.

Thanks.

I reported this bug a long time ago - on a large map download the progress bar may get stuck @ "99% | 1 items remains". You can wait as long as you like but it never got to 100% complete until I closed the Notification Centre panel then opened it again. It probably only happens rarely.

Also as mentioned in a few posts a few weeks ago - auto-start of track recording is problematic if the GPS vertical position is not yet accurate, for example when the GPS is first enabled. Attached is an even more dramatic example than the previous post. Unless you manually edit the track & delete a few initial points, the elevation chart is useless.

Sharing points as KML doesn't work since a few versions. The menu entry simply does nothing.

Now, where I found the solution for the brightness dimming problem of my Samsung device I'm back to LM4. 😉
And found some interesting new features. 😎
First of all: guidance line from position to navigation aim.
I like this idea and tried it on my round trip today ... but it only points to my start and ending point because of my round trip.
I had a lot of deviations today and hoped that the line shows me the direction to my next via point (until recalculation found a correct new route and doesn't try to lead me back🙄).

Wouldn't it be better to point to the next via point (if there is any)  instead of only pointing to the end of the navigation route?

And second question: where can I change color/size of this line and text?

Quote from: joeloc on August 06, 2022, 07:36:52
Sharing points as KML doesn't work since a few versions. The menu entry simply does nothing.

Works for me.At least with these steps:
- Select a point
- Click on share at bottom of screen
- Select file explorer (X-plor in my case)
- Select target folder
-> Kmz created

Quote from: CabrioTourer on August 07, 2022, 22:21:54

Quote from: joeloc on August 06, 2022, 07:36:52
Sharing points as KML doesn't work since a few versions. The menu entry simply does nothing.

Works for me.At least with these steps:
- Select a point
- Click on share at bottom of screen
- Select file explorer (X-plor in my case)
- Select target folder
-> Kmz created

This menu entry is not operating for me, it simply does nothing. It worked fine for a few years.and stopped working a couple versions ago.

@joeloc: sharing 'KML file' not working here too. Tried with different map-sources, offline and online, in case this matters.

@balloni55
I'll add NTRIP officially to the next app version.

Guys, very nice comments here (https://wobblyride.com/2022/03/29/best-navigation-apps-for-bicycle-touring/), thanks all. Made me laugh  :D

@T-mo
crash with guidance > ah, got it, thanks!

@joeloc
copyright button is a good many-years-old button and you want to remove it?  :-X I'm worried that terms of use of (almost) all maps require visible copyright on the screen when map is used.

What do you want to do with the app UI? Even if you remove it completely, there is still a colored map so it should not help at all.

Sharing point: you are trying to share basic point stored in the app data manager? Because this works to me correctly, so there has to be something special ...

@tapio
hmm problems with Audio coach .. I'm using it almost daily and no problems noticed. They should also really change with the change of recording profile. Will have to check it ...

@Viajero Perdido
Right swipe to dismiss point > I know I know. Not so easy now  ::), sorry

@razvaneduard
Please check in the side panel if online or offline LoPoints are enabled.

@Andrew Heard
99% stuck in notify center > hmm. Never noticed this. Anyway, all data are downloaded correctly so it is only a visual problem right?

Rare problems with elevation at the start of recording > I know I know. As I wrote somewhere, in the app exists a mechanism to prevent this problem, but seems not to be strong enough. There are options, so I'll look at it. Fortunately, editing & remove of few starting points is working and it is not a complicated task.

@jonny.blue
hehe, it is named "Line to destination"  :)

And the color ... as I see, it should inherit color from the navigation line style.

---

Uff  :)

Quote
Hehe, it is named "Line to destination"

.... and my next destination is the next via point. 😉

Quote from: Menion on August 09, 2022, 21:39:23
99% stuck in notify center > hmm. Never noticed this. Anyway, all data are downloaded correctly so it is only a visual problem right?

@menion - correct, mainly a visual problem, although the user wastes time waiting for completion that doesn't occur, so frustration

Quote from: Menion on August 09, 2022, 21:39:23
Rare problems with elevation at the start of recording > I know I know. As I wrote somewhere, in the app exists a mechanism to prevent this problem, but seems not to be strong enough. There are options, so I'll look at it. Fortunately, editing & remove of few starting points is working and it is not a complicated task.

I would debate how rare. I can reproduce easily - if the user has auto track recording, and starts Locus immediately then when the device is started, the GPS can take indeterminant time to stabilize - sometimes a few seconds, but also minutes, so removing a few starting points is too simplistic. A more robust method could be enhancement of current HDOP threshold - wait until HDOP & VDOP both have sufficient accuracy?

HDOP and VDOP may be problematic as well to be true. These values are not equal to "accuracy". It describes the situation of satellites in the sky and if they are able to provide an accurate location. So low HDOP value does not immediately mean accurate location.

Currently, the recording service ignores the first 10 locations after GPS is enabled. So first 10 seconds of fresh "fixed" locations are ignored. Good enough in most cases. Should be interesting to watch a visible horizontal accuracy. For this, already exists settings in the recording profile. Simply enable GPS in the skyplot screen and check visible accuracy.

Quote from: Menion on August 10, 2022, 08:13:22
Should be interesting to watch a visible horizontal accuracy. For this, already exists settings in the recording profile. Simply enable GPS in the skyplot screen and check visible accuracy.

@Menion - "horizontal accuracy" but exported GPX file contains <HDOP> so can <VDOP> also be obtained & exported? A simplistic algorithm of only rejecting initial fixed number of initial seconds or points also does not handle the more dynamic generalized scenario where GPS signal is unacceptable eg. inside a tunnel or inside a building. For example the attached screen cap is of a walk where I entered a building; I did disable track recording before entered the building and resumed after exiting the building, and the GPS screen "horz. accuracy" was ~15, but clearly vertical and horizontal accuracy required more time. Examining the GPX file around this time <hdop> went from 5 to 20..30, elevation went from ~40m to 1060m, and the position of 3 points was 1km wrong.

4.11.0 Quick Settings panel > long tap any button > tap Information > tap is ignored - see attached video. I noticed this problem because you can view I have two buttons: "Out of route - noti" with nearly identical icons, so wanted to recall the difference - maybe using the Information function - but it doesn't work for me. Am I missing something?

Error in route planner ?
I have converted a shaping point into a waypoint. At the title was the place. I then called it New name.
Save....continue planning....save route.
When I look at the route now there are 2 points at this place. One with name "intermediate destination" and one with name "new name".

When I convert a shaping point to a waypoint in the route planner, I am shown a "Comment" field.
When I open the route after saving, I can edit the waypoint. A "Description" field is then additionally displayed to me there.
It would make more sense to display the "Description" field in the route planner as well. I find it better than the "Comment" field.

I converted another 2nd shaping point in the route to an intermediate destination. After saving the route, I could no longer find it. I repeated it again and made sure to save the waypoint and the route. And again the 2nd point or intermediate destination is missing.

@Freischneider:
I did a 0815 test- as this is todays date  :D
I don't get 2 points, only 1, the via point.
But any noted comment or description is missing though entered and 'save'ed during shape-to-via-conversion.

Track details > 'waypoints' has the icon I gave the via point. This is probably wrong.
The waypoint-overview is sth. I never understood as it's an unnumbered list..if you have a lot of entries what's the profit of getting lost?
4.11.1

Here's a very weird walking experience yesterday with track recording: see attached screen cap (Garmin Basecamp) with green (accurate positions) and red (very inaccurate but still plausible positions). I had settings > GPS > Altitude Manager > SRTM data: "Optimize GPS values". The elevation is correct for 1st 1.7km around 50m. I pause track recording > enter/ exit shop > resume track recording. But position is now 1km wrong - jump to the east and elevation is 485m (at this lat/lon the elevation is indeed 485m), and never corrects itself, although the mostly linear track recording seems plausible. I never spotted the problem. Near to a 2nd shop (2.3km later) the GPS position is finally correct but still around 485m for elevation. At the completion of the walk I finally discover the erroneous elevation and in an experiment I change setting SRTM data to "dont use", and instantly the elevation is correct at 50m. It seems the LM4 Altitude Manager was completely confused, locked to a wrong vertical offset although the GPS position was corrected. I wont use "Optimize GPS values" any more. The ascent in metres is more important to me than any absolute vertical position. I don't expect any investigation, but just thought it was worth sharing a funny story.

@Andrew Heard
it is a problem. "hdop" value from the Locus Map in the GPX file is fake. App writes into GPX file received "horizontal accuracy". Android system does not report real hdop/vdop/pdop values over base API. What I may anyway do is read also NMEA messages and extract these values from there. Hmm, I'll look at it ...

Invisible info: an old problem with some longer info messages. Solved, but I had to shorten the info box duration.

Problem with "Optimize GPS values" > this is bad. I never read about any problem with this settings. So now I'll use this to test ...

@freischneider
Problem in merging of segments in the route planner: uff, this was hard :), should be fixed now, thanks!

"Comment field" > should be visible during navigation in the top panel. It is difference to "Description field".

Reported problems should be solved in the recent Locus Map 4.11.1.1 Beta version.

Link broken?

Quote from: Menion on August 17, 2022, 09:10:12

@freischneider
Problem in merging of segments in the route planner: uff, this was hard :), should be fixed now, thanks!

"Comment field" > should be visible during navigation in the top panel. It is difference to "Description field".

Comment field: Now it gets a big emphasis with me. For me since then the comment was not displayed above.
I found out that it is only displayed when the street name is turned on.
Can you set it to show even when street name is off.

Quote from: Menion on August 17, 2022, 09:10:12
Android system does not report real hdop/vdop/pdop values over base API. What I may anyway do is read also NMEA messages and extract these values from there. Hmm, I'll look at it ...

@menion - "read also NMEA messages" - interesting - I looked through all the NMEA sentences & couldn't find one with suitable vdop/pdop, only hdop - so I hope you find something useful. wow - already new code in beta - looking forward to testing, thanks!

PS. 4.11.1.1 testing: from release notes "invisible notifications in Quick settings screen": long tap button > Info > still no info?

attached files #1 & #2: when I went to Satellites screen the hor.accuracy was already 20m even before any satellites detected - this doesn't seem right?.

attached file #3: then once satellites in view & stable - vertical accuracy, HDOP, VDOP - "usually not known" - sadly verified - I added 4 fields to dashboard (top row, green text) - when are these values known?

attached file #4: the GPSTest app displays HDOP, VDOP - are these values fake?

When connected to NTRIP on a smartphone (Android 12), it works stably for about 20 minutes, then frequently disconnects and Locus Map 4 stops.
It is especially prominent in the border area between Wi-Fi zones and LTE (even in 5G).
And "audiocoach" doesn't work well either
As for the stability of NTRIP connection, "Android 9 (Note 8)" looks better than "Android 12 (Note 20)".

@tapio
someone read the news?  :) Nice, thanks, indeed there was an incorrect link.

@freischneider
ah, it is still named as "Street name" > should be more something like "Extra info about next navigation point".

@Andrew Heard
Notifications in the quick settings were working but were placed below the dialog. Anyway now it seems to work correctly to me in all cases, weird. Do all buttons behave like this?

Accuracy before some sats are loaded may not be wrong. Android cache and re-use some older data, so it may provide a few minutes of old data with these parameters. The fact that is not "fresh" is another problem.

xDOP values are read from the GSA message. There is no guarantee it will be available on all devices. You may try to record an NMEA message and check if the recorded file contains any line with the GSA message (messages are stored in the Locus/data/nmea directory).

@baegas

Quoteand Locus Map 4 stops

... you see a system dialog that application crashed? If so, the log (http://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php?id=manual:faq:how_to_create_debug_log) will be needed here right after this happens.

What problem is with the audio-coach?

Quote from: Menion on August 18, 2022, 13:02:37
@baegas

Quoteand Locus Map 4 stops

... you see a system dialog that application crashed? If so, the log (http://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php?id=manual:faq:how_to_create_debug_log) will be needed here right after this happens.

What problem is with the audio-coach?

When I just created a bug report, the system dialog didn't show up, but a bug that occurred while hiking during the day showed up.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n_cyEzMZCeeHX8Z4T586M4dUEYWill0h/view?usp=sharing
ㄴbug report

Audio coach did not make any sound when running NTRIP
If you turn off NTRIP, you can hear it well.

Hello menion
the following problem occurs in LM4 as well as in LMP,
kmz as well as sqlite maps are not offered in the map selection although they are in the same folder as another map which is displayed.
If you e.g. open the kmz with a long click in file explorer > open with> Locus
you will be asked if the content should be displayed on the map
and the map will be displayed temporarily.

Quote from: Menion on August 18, 2022, 13:02:37Notifications in the quick settings were working but were placed below the dialog. Anyway now it seems to work correctly to me in all cases, weird. Do all buttons behave like this?

@menion - yes - 1st attached - retested all 8 buttons - no Info

Quote from: Menion on August 18, 2022, 13:02:37Accuracy before some sats are loaded may not be wrong. Android cache and re-use some older data, so it may provide a few minutes of old data with these parameters. The fact that is not "fresh" is another problem.

confirmed

Quote from: Menion on August 18, 2022, 13:02:37xDOP values are read from the GSA message. There is no guarantee it will be available on all devices. You may try to record an NMEA message and check if the recorded file contains any line with the GSA message (messages are stored in the Locus/data/nmea directory).

OK - NMEA file attached & according to https://www.satsleuth.com/GPS_NMEA_sentences.aspx $GPGSA sentence does in fact have xDOP values

$GPGSA,A,3,09,07,30,04,08,20,27,16,,,,,1.2,0.6,1.0*37
                                                  ^^^checksum
                                              ^^^  VDOP = 1.0
                                          ^^^      HDOP = 0.6
                                      ^^^          PDOP = 1.2
      ^                                            mode 1 = A = auto 2D/3D
        ^                                          mode 1 = 3 = 3D
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                  active satellitesThese xDOP values are the same as displayed by GPSTest that I had screen cap from last post. But are they valid?

So below (1 row per $GPGSA & just with xDOP fields) I also brought phone inside house (2022-08-19B.nmea), and indeed all xDOP values get much worse
    PDOP    HDOP    VDOP+sum
$GPGSA    1.4    0.8    1.2*38
$GPGSA    1.2    0.6    1.0*32
$GPGSA    1.2    0.6    1.0*32
$GPGSA    1    0.4    1.0*37
$GPGSA    1    0.4    1.0*37
$GPGSA    1    0.4    0.8*3E
$GPGSA    1    0.4    0.8*3E
$GPGSA    1    0.4    0.8*3E
$GPGSA    1    0.4    0.8*3E
$GPGSA    1    0.4    0.8*3E
$GPGSA    0.8    0.4    0.8*32
$GPGSA    0.8    0.4    0.8*32
$GPGSA    1    0.4    0.8*3E
$GPGSA    5.6    4.8    2.8*32
$GPGSA    6.2    5.4    3.0*39
$GPGSA    5.8    5    3.0*3C
$GPGSA    5.8    5    3.0*3C
$GPGSA    5.6    4.8    2.8*32
$GPGSA    6.2    5.4    3.0*39
$GPGSA    5.6    4.8    2.8*32
$GPGSA    7.6    7    3.0*36
$GPGSA    5.6    4.8    2.8*32
$GPGSA    6    5    3.0*37
$GPGSA    5.6    4.8    2.8*32
$GPGSA    5.6    4.8    2.8*32
$GPGSA    5.6    4.8    2.8*32
$GPGSA    7.6    7    3.0*36
$GPGSA    6    5    3.0*37


@baegas
thanks for the report regards the NTRIP client. I think I've found a serious problem when the client reconnects after any connection problem. Should be improved in the next version. Hope it will help to audio-coach as well.

@balloni55
KMZ is not supported in the map manager so it is ignored. Anyway what you see is older problem with using maps from deeper directories. You may use an alternative solution and name your directory "LoMap_split". The ending "_split" cause that all maps will be handled separately. Otherwise, app tries to merge maps in your subdirectory into a single "multi-map".

@Andrew Heard
Info in the quick settings is really weird and I currently have no idea how to fix it, sorry. It works to me on two devices correctly ...

All seems to look correct in the NMEA messages, so I also have no idea here, why xDOP values are not visible here, hmm. I'm also checking the dashboard if this works correctly and seems so ... damn. Will be watching it ...

Quote from: Menion on August 19, 2022, 12:04:04All seems to look correct in the NMEA messages, so I also have no idea here, why xDOP values are not visible here, hmm. I'm also checking the dashboard if this works correctly and seems so ... damn. Will be watching it ...

@Menion - just to confirm - my NMEA messages have reasonable xDOP values, but the new 3 fields I added to a dashboard for testing only display "-".

In normal LM4 use I pause any track recording when entering a place with no likely GPS i.e. indoors. Sidenote: of course danger is forgetting to resume the recording later. Yesterday just for interest I left the track recording and it was quite funny. After a minute in the basement of a very tall building my sitting speed was 20km/h (although clearly zero (0) satellites); a minute later while still sitting my elevation had moved from -14 to 2200+ metres - elevator? and only after two minutes of no signal did the system finally decide no satellites were visible. I guess this is primarily an Android issue? or could zero (or defined setting threshold) satellites be an indication to auto-pause?

BTW the new attachment system & Quick edit is a big improvement. Loving it.

QuoteKMZ is not supported in the map manager so it is ignored

sorry i´ve forgot, kmz can be used as map ithem ;)

QuoteYou may use an alternative solution and name your directory "LoMap_split"

thanks, work perfect :)

Quote from: Menion on August 19, 2022, 12:04:04@baegas
thanks for the report regards the NTRIP client. I think I've found a serious problem when the client reconnects after any connection problem. Should be improved in the next version. Hope it will help to audio-coach as well.

Thanks NTRIP works very well :D  :D
Audiocoach didn't have time to check it yet

Have you looked at this yet ? I could not see any improvement in the last beta.

https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7974.msg68489#msg68489

https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7974.msg68477#msg68477

regarding copyright button: at least make it 60% visible only... and just 10% after I clicked and read it once for a specific map. that would still satisfy your moral obligation to map creators and stop destroying your users phones.

bright white pixels on an amoled displayed at 1000 nits 8 hours a day is one of the worst things you can do to your phone. solution: just don't!

map itself is not problem since it is always different. the rest of your statically placed and always visible UI is not 100% white as far as I can tell. But yes, it is a problem too. And not a theoretical one mind you, I have Locus UI burnin on 3 phones already.

no, this will not happen to casual users.

yes, this will happen to power users who spend their locus life in bright sunshine every day.

Quote from: Andrew Heard on August 20, 2022, 02:30:58I guess this is primarily an Android issue? or could zero (or defined setting threshold) satellites be an indication to auto-pause?

Funky track messup point clouds when having breaks inside has always been a problem for Locus. It's bad on my S20FE, it's super horrible on my GFs S22Ultra.

Obviously it's mainly Androids fault to supply bogus data, but Locus could also try fixing this more thoroughly. For example, your recording profile could contain a max speed setting above which points would just be dropped. So if in one second my position moves more than eg 30m, don't record it because it must be a bogus indoor crap point.

Quote from: joeloc on August 22, 2022, 20:56:04could contain a max speed setting above which points would just be dropped. So if in one second my position moves more than eg 30m, don't record it because it must be a bogus indoor crap point.

@joeloc - by itself I don't think this measure would work - while inside & stationary, LM was calculating my speed as 20km/h and some positions were ~3km from actual location. But maybe combined with the accelerometer help topic for detection for a stationary device...

But fortunately there is other potential improvement - the NMEA $GPGSA does indicate very unreliable xDOP when no GPS signal, and could therefore help when fully implemented.

@freischneider
ah thanks for the reminder.

"Map rotation during navigation" > I'm playing with it and unfortunately no such problem was detected. Rotation is always made without any animation, so instantly. In your case, the map rotates based on the GPS movement so align with the navigation track itself?

@joeloc
white copyright > and what about the dark mode in the app? Then even a copyright button will be dark and not white.

problematic recorded point > in the next app version will be the detection of the HDOP & VDOP values that should block the recording of points with bad signal, so we will see if it helps. "Speed" is not an ideal solution. In your case, it will be 30m jump > oki, it is wrong, but second, it will be 30m/2sec, 30m/3sec etc and in some moment, the point will be saved.

... ah I see that @Andrew Heard already answered, thanks :)

Quote from: Menion on August 23, 2022, 08:11:17@freischneider
ah thanks for the reminder.

"Map rotation during navigation" > I'm playing with it and unfortunately no such problem was detected. Rotation is always made without any animation, so instantly. In your case, the map rotates based on the GPS movement so align with the navigation track itself?

Yes, the alignment is automatic in the direction of travel.
Example:
I am driving south.
Screen turns off.
There is a turn instruction
Screen switches on.
Map is oriented to the north.
Now the map turns to the south.
It must do this for every turn instruction. But it could already happen in the background. Shortly before the screen turns on. Locus knows when to turn on the screen.

I had forgotten Locus Map Web allows charting the GPS Accuracy. When I view the accuracy of latest reported walk/ sit inside building vs. time, it is (now) quite clear where the inaccuracy is - nice feature. In addition to xDOP there could be hysteresis rather than a fixed threshold i.e. record (as now) once a desired accuracy is reached/ disable once a worse threshold is crossed, and only reenable once a better threshold is crossed.

https://web.locusmap.app/en/?shared_track=NzY4ZjAxMDUtOTFmZi00MjY1LTkzMzMtNzA4OTY4NWRmODlhOjg1MjU5MWYyLTUxNTAtNGFjMS05N2NmLTYxNWVlNjk2NjMyZQ..
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Menion, general question. I was always wondering. Loading a small, 500 mb regional vector map vs. a big 3gb one.

Does this affect power consumption of Locus in any way? I would guess loading big or small map makes no difference for Locus. It probably reads some kind of metadata, table and relevant area. And on map dragging/zooming, Locus would only load, more or less, the visible areas anyway.

Still I was always a bit hesitant about using the big maps.

TIA

Accuracy chart: Awww nice, the app needs Accuracy added as well to the "elevation profile" chart. 👌

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Hello Menion,

As you are clearing some list of unsolved topics, I would like to ask to solve "World map at low zooms (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7190.0)" issue, too.

If you select a global map in Maps > Advanced features > Pre-load global map, Locus switches to the global map at low zoom levels independent from Base map type (vector/raster/blank map). The issue can be found on both Locus 4 and Locus classic.

Minor issue.
Number of waypoints in tour details is on left side in case there are via points. Without via points they are on the right side.

@freischneider
It is a really interesting problem with rotation. Because the map should stay the same the moment you turn the screen off as when you turn screen on. I do not really know why it internally rotates to the north in your case. I'll be watching it but if there will be a such problem, I'll for sure notice it ... weird.

Just for sure > what Settings > GPS & sensors > Map rotation mode do you use during the navigation?

@Tapio
there should be close to no difference. The only difference I see is that small maps more often trigger "search for the map that may fill empty space" > so auto-loading. That takes some power. So in the end, a bigger map = better :)

Convert of trackpoints to shaping/via > hmm, when you tap on any segment, you see details of this segment. So working with trackpoint here a generally a little problematic. It is similar problem to working with trackpoints when clicking on the recorded track directly on the map screen.

So current solution? Far from ideal, agree. Placing to the bottom? Not a lot better I think. I have some ideas on improvements in the route planner, so later probably ...

@ta-ka
comment in the mentioned topic, thanks

@CabrioTourer
nice icons for waypoints  :) . And thanks, graphics glitch fixed

4.11.1.2 beta: "problem with selection of points/ tracks & accidental scroll": now is seems even worse for me on Galaxy Tab A7 (Android 12) in landscape orientation (or at least certainly no less frustrating than before). I attempt to tap the "eye" (visibility) icon & instead scroll instead. Not tested yet on phone in portrait orientation.

Quote from: Menion on August 31, 2022, 22:06:56@freischneider
It is a really interesting problem with rotation. Because the map should stay the same the moment you turn the screen off as when you turn screen on. I do not really know why it internally rotates to the north in your case. I'll be watching it but if there will be a such problem, I'll for sure notice it ... weird.

Just for sure > what Settings > GPS & sensors > Map rotation mode do you use during the navigation?

I have attached my settings. And I have also made a video.

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Quote from: Menion on August 31, 2022, 22:06:56@CabrioTourer
nice icons for waypoints  :)

That's the way I show the fun factor on the map. One of the reasons why I like Locus that much. Endless possibilities to do my own stuff. Thanks for this.

Minor issue:
I love the long click on map selection button to switch to recent map. Sometimes a message pops up:
"Selected map is out of current view..."
Would be nice if this can be supressed when using long click.

The new Beta version 4.11.1.3 is finally published.

@Andrew Heard, @freischneider, @CabrioTourer, I'll look at it after weekend, thanks.

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The error message (below) occurred sometime during the SRTM download with about 20 files remaining, but I couldn't reproduce it. I had done the first screen capture (above) then turned the display off, and it was on the screen when I turned the display on a few minutes later. Tapping the little 2-arrow Refresh button didn't help, but returning to the Locus Store map > Download correctly downloaded just the remaining ~20 files.You cannot view this attachment.

In 4.11.1.3, the side panel can't be displayed any more by double clicking (setting = hide automatically)
Best, Lucas

Quote from: luce on September 03, 2022, 20:48:22In 4.11.1.3, the side panel can't be displayed any more by double clicking (setting = hide automatically)

@luce - it's still working for me

Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 04, 2022, 00:27:45@luce - it's still working for me

Hm, interesting... Maybe Menion can simulate the issue?

My bottom bar is set to always visible, only the side bar is set to "hide automatically".

Bad behaviour: Clicking a picture (see screenshot, geotagged photos) for the first time displays it maximum stretched, non resizable. Leaving and re-entering allows for resizing. webp pictures.
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@luce,like Andrew, no side panel problem here. top/side are auto, bottom is always

Quote from: luce on September 04, 2022, 10:56:26Hm, interesting... Maybe Menion can simulate the issue?

@luce FWIW my settings:

• bottom function panel: partial auto-hide
• side function panel: auto-hide
• panel hiding timeout: 99,999

There seems to be an issue with stopping recording via an intent. It does not (always?) stop. I have automated my recording start/stop heavily and I noticed multiple saving attempts of the same track hourly, but with the first saving the recording should have stopped. It doesn't, recording continues. Will observe...
Menion has there been any change in those realms? It happens since I installed latest beta. But hard to track down, because when I execute the intent code manually, it works.

This is the saving intent code...
tasks: { track_record  : { action: "stop", auto_save: true } }

@Andrew Heard
hmm error 10102 is a generic problem with the internet connection so it probably happened when the app was on background > system decided that Locus Map should not use the internet now. The app should anyway handle this more gently. Weird is that the "refresh" button does not help. Will have to try it ...

@luce
thanks for the shared settings, it helped! The issue was found and will be fixed in the next version.

@Tapio
The problem with the image when visible for the first time should be fixed in the next version, thanks!

The issue with recording & tasker > hmm, yes, there was a minor change in the recording system because of some optimization around ignoring points with "invalid" accuracy. But it should not affect the recording life-cycle & handling of such events.

What you may try > enable "Log to file" in the Beta version (long click on the main menu). When this issue happens, remember the time when it happened and send me the log from Locus/logs directory. There should be (maybe) some info ... at least something to start with. Thanks!

Is cloud sync actually supposed to work? I just tried it for the very first time and it remains at 1% forever. Internet monitoring shows a few bytes(!) per second upload speed. What's it doing... uploading every single track point in a single http request?

My database is only around 1GB currently and if I upload eg a Locus backup zip (800mb) directly to some random ftp server, it does 5Mb/second and finishes in a few minutes. I assume Locus should be about as fast when doing its sync stuff?

Hi joeloc,
my DB is more than 1 GB and sync across devices works like a charm. However, my big initial upload happened in the early beta stages of this feature. Hence my happy sync may not prove anything today ...
Cheers
Michael

Quote from: Menion on September 05, 2022, 14:15:49hmm error 10102 is a generic problem with the internet connection so it probably happened when the app was on background > system

@Menion - yes, more than likely.

Quote from: joeloc on September 05, 2022, 16:36:33Is cloud sync actually supposed to work? I just tried it for the very first time and it remains at 1% forever.

@joeloc - maybe just 1% for a longer than expected time - I experienced similar behavior with the initial bulk upload - have a look at & maybe vote or comment on my suggestion https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/26282-provide-more-info-while-performing-cloud-sync. I use manual cloud sync & it's a great facility, but would like to see more details during progress, and finer grained update of the progress bar.

I've had this issue before, but don't really see why... zoom out to ZL10 over region with existing offline map - LM4 displays "unknown problem". Wifi & mobile are disabled, so "LoMaps Online" will not work & shouldn't be needed anyway. An existing track is visible for reference and comparison with 2nd screen capture:
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Zoom in to ZL12 with no other change & the existing offline map is now correctly displayed:
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Why isn't this map displayed @ ZL10 as well? Map settings are also attached. Thanks for any suggestions.

@joeloc
initial sync may really take a long time. The app does not send data as a plain file so the conversion of files, checking with the server, etc. takes its time. So expected, in your case, that it may take maybe even a few hours. All following sync will be fast as in the case of other users.

@Andrew Heard
"Unknown problem" should not be visible at all, rather a "No internet" message should be there. Anyway aren't you using online LoMaps as a world map? Check settings > Maps >Advanced features > Pre-load global map.

Quote from: Menion on September 06, 2022, 07:08:21"Unknown problem" should not be visible at all, rather a "No internet" message should be there

@menion - OK one improvement

Quote from: Menion on September 06, 2022, 07:08:21aren't you using online LoMaps as a world map? Check settings > Maps >Advanced features > Pre-load global map.

no; but even if I were, there was a valid offline map that could be displayed rather than "unknown error" or "No internet"

Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 06, 2022, 00:10:02

Quote from: joeloc on September 05, 2022, 16:36:33Is cloud sync actually supposed to work? I just tried it for the very first time and it remains at 1% forever.

@joeloc - maybe just 1% for a longer than expected time - I experienced similar behavior with the initial bulk upload - have a look at & maybe vote or comment on my suggestion https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/26282-provide-more-info-while-performing-cloud-sync. I use manual cloud sync & it's a great facility, but would like to see more details during progress, and finer grained update of the progress bar.

More details and progress updates are absolutely required, especially when performance is that miniscule. I have no patience for staring at a never changing 1% number. And since there is no network traffic worth mentioning during that time, I simply abort.

Just checked - cannot vote twice :-)

Btw. I don't use cloud sync even with gold abo.

My Problem is that on my main device a dialog pops up and I can choose sync or download.
I don't know what is the difference in cloud but I know the data on the device are the good one.
So both options are a nogo.

There should be even a upload selection.
As far as I know there is also no way to delete the could data.

So I stuck here. Can't use sync,can't use download and there is no way to start from fresh.

Route planner (4.11.1.3): I copied a track + reversed turn instructions. I then opened with the Route planner & (very) many "zombie" turn instructions points were visible. My guess is the router calculated a slightly different route, but LM should have deleted these original turn instructions right? When I started deleting these points, LM got slower, and slower & slower. No crash, but clearly LM was very confused, the CPU was 100% & I was forced to restart the device.
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In addition, the circle icon (white top half, red bottom half) was inconsistent with the correct (?) turn instruction icon when the point was tapped to edit.
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Quote from: CabrioTourer on September 07, 2022, 21:43:36Btw. I don't use cloud sync even with gold abo.

My Problem is that on my main device a dialog pops up and I can choose sync or download.
I don't know what is the difference in cloud but I know the data on the device are the good one.
So both options are a nogo.

There should be even a upload selection.
As far as I know there is also no way to delete the could data.

So I stuck here. Can't use sync,can't use download and there is no way to start from fresh.

@CabrioTourer - have you tried manual sync rather than automatic?
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then from Cloud Sync > top menu (dot-dot-dot) > Advanced > Compute sync plan
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this will tell you what would happen if full manual sync is performed; for example (although geeky to read)
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@menion - reproduce 100% after each "Compute sync plan" - error cUY code 10601"
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@Andr

Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 08, 2022, 00:50:16@CabrioTourer - have you tried manual sync rather than automatic?

Some weeks ago. Can't test it today. Option for manual is greyed out.

As far as I remember it shows just some numbers.
For me the feature is useless. What does it help when it shows it will sync x points or y tracks?
I don't know which points, what track I need to backup before the sync.
I have maybe 2000+ points and 200+ tracks??
Even if I would know which one. How can I save these elements without loosing information?
Elements are not stored in single files. The only Locus way I know is export/import but this doesn't support all element features (at least for the formats I checked).

just some comments, though I personally haven't used online-storage yet, but due to experiences with using multiple computers and devices over the years and different tools, finally syncthing (which also has its history and evolution), there are some basic conclusions or extracts
- with mobile devices there is not always data connection or data connection is limited or priced..therefore it easily will happen that synchronisation-state will temporarily be 'somewhere between'
- status of syncing is mandatory - this means status of each item (folder, track, point..whatever) and overall progress has to be precisely known at any time to full degree
- the status should be easily be visible. NOT seeing a status is optional
- no software is perfect (and I don't want to know the amount of time all the softwares have taken as not doing the job as intended by their devs) - the more logging and status is important and missing this is always at cost of people's/users time..always
- conclusion: a vote for basic infos would be a joke..if that feature is not given, best is to not use that feature at all as very very basic thoughts are not understood, that's an adventure-journey by design

Since a few versions, Locus has this hickup where it overwrites the last point when I add another one.

Right now for example, while I am planning a new trip, I scroll around the map and add new waypoints whenever something looks interesting to me. Every new point silently overwrites and deletes the last one I added. This drives me absolutely crazy.

It doesn't happen all the time,  but when it happens, it keeps happening. Restarting Locus or using another folder for points might fix it for a while, but the problem will come back.

Maybe re-check your SQL commands? It sounds like something super silly really... like that bug when deleting points in the editor took minutes instead of milliseconds.

edit: also, sometimes I add a new point and its state is set to invisible right away.

Quote from: joeloc on September 09, 2022, 08:12:59Since a few versions, Locus has this hickup where it overwrites the last point when I add another one.

Right now for example, while I am planning a new trip, I scroll around the map and add new waypoints whenever something looks interesting to me. Every new point silently overwrites and deletes the last one I added. This drives me absolutely crazy.

It doesn't happen all the time,  but when it happens, it keeps happening. Restarting Locus or using another folder for points might fix it for a while, but the problem will come back.

Maybe re-check your SQL commands? It sounds like something super silly really... like that bug when deleting points in the editor took minutes instead of milliseconds.

edit: also, sometimes I add a new point and its state is set to invisible right away.

Yeah, I get that.
Had it for a few months. Can't see a pattern unfortunately.
J

Hi guys

progress during sync: oki oki, I'll look at it. There are a lot of calculations at the beginning and comparing users' local and server data.

@CabrioTourer
if you PM your email address used to sync your data, we may completely clear the content already existing on the server so your first sync only send data to the cloud.

Btw:
"sync" - merge local and server data
"download" - throw away local data and download data from server

@Andrew Heard
The problem with the editing of the reversed route is interesting. I was able to simulate something similar once, but can't repeat it.

I'll look at it later, because it looks like a tiny but "hard to find" problem.

@joeloc & @Jethro10
Adding point problem: this happens directly on the main screen by simple long-click > + button?

Quote from: Menion on September 12, 2022, 15:18:54@CabrioTourer
if you PM your email address used to sync your data, we may completely clear the content already existing on the server so your first sync only send data to the cloud.

Btw:
"sync" - merge local and server data
"download" - throw away local data and download data from server

Regarding Btw.: I know. There is a upload missing option here.
There is no way today to deal with such a problem. This is what I wanted to report.

Thanks for your offer. I'll keep my old backup method for now and skip locus sync.

A very minor issue. Just fix in case it's easy:
A mp4 file is not marked as sound file in point detail.


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Quote from: Menion on September 12, 2022, 15:18:54The problem with the editing of the reversed route is interesting. I was able to simulate something similar once, but can't repeat it.

I'll look at it later, because it looks like a tiny but "hard to find" problem.

@Menion - not generally a problem for me either

Quote from: Menion on September 12, 2022, 15:18:54Hi guys


@joeloc & @Jethro10
Adding point problem: this happens directly on the main screen by simple long-click > + button?

Yeah, that process. Generally works ok for the first few or several points then, seemingly at a random time for no obvious reason when a point is added, the last one is always deleted. Force stop the application makes it work ok until the next time.
My phone has gone through the Android 11 to 12 update and same issue.
J

Quote from: Menion on September 02, 2022, 16:13:36The new Beta version 4.11.1.3 is finally published.

Menion, somewhere you wrote this bug which I mentioned here in forum is fixed: "Geotagged photo view, on first open it cannot be resized - needs a second open". I hope you remember. Problem is still existing in recent beta.

@CabrioTourer
missing "clear server & upload" method is intent. It prevents clearing data on the server by any accident. As I wrote, if rarely someone needs to do this, we do it manually. Because it still happens once per month or less.

"mp4" file in point detail > hmm, good point. I always play just with photos and seems that all other types of files display incorrectly! Thanks.

@Tapio
I've not noticed a problem with the inability to resize photos for some time, so I hope, it is ok now. New Beta will come soon so give it a try, please.

New beta, Fullscreen: So the top Android bar will always be visible now? I don't find any fullscreen option any more. Feels like a step back.

Geotagged photo display is fixed for me, thx.

Yes, it will be. The old solution worked correctly on older devices or devices without any "cutout" (usually a hole caused by the camera).
But, in many cases, it was really a pain. The app was full of various hacks that tried to correctly handle full-screen mode, but it many times worked incorrectly. Mainly if something "floating" was visible, like any dialog or popup window.

So this solution is technically correct and will work on tablets, dual-screen devices etc. So I understand that in some cases, it may reduce the map screen a little, but it is a small tax for a universal correct solution working across all devices.

And thanks for test of photos!

shit, my device is not water protected :o

RE: Fullscreen. Regrettably, but yes. I've noticed hacks and problems in the past, also in other apps (eg Moon+ Reader). Small step back, but we'll survive it 😉

Settings>Navigation>SelectVoice uses the correct language (German here), but Settings>Guidance>NotificationOfNextTurn tts test uses the english voice ('do you like Locus?'). Only in this settings-test, guidance is with correct language. I like Locus, just a glitch and irritating
:)

4.11.1.5:
better support for osm-links:
Search with Baker-Street-example-link: parsing link only works with Google as source, not with graphhopper (my personal default) or bing, though parsing probably does not depent on it at all.
lat-lon-zoom-link does not work over here, see pictures what I've tried

Quote from: luce on September 03, 2022, 20:48:22In 4.11.1.3, the side panel can't be displayed any more by double clicking (setting = hide automatically)
Best, Lucas

Issue solved with version 4.11.1.5, thank you!  :)

After upgrade from 4.11.1.3 to.5 I can no longer export a recorded track to GPX. I tap on the Export button, and it is totally ignored. Nothing else has changed. I tried other folders too.  I have been exporting 2 or more times to local file system everyday for last week without problems until the update today.

The forum password policy must have silently changed? I was forced to have mixed case letters. Could have been handled better.

Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 24, 2022, 12:29:00Export button, and it is totally ignored.

Same.

Quote from: Tapio on September 24, 2022, 14:42:33

Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 24, 2022, 12:29:00Export button, and it is totally ignored.

Same.

Same for me, but with export to fit format.
Maybe "my fault", asking to Menion to improve fit import and export. Here https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/27015-locus-activity-export-to-fit-format

With latest beta, I managed to export, but using the "share" option, and then in sharing choices, I have "copy to".

Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 24, 2022, 12:29:00After upgrade from 4.11.1.3 to.5 I can no longer export a recorded track to GPX. I tap on the Export button, and it is totally ignored. Nothing else has changed. I tried other folders too.  I have been exporting 2 or more times to local file system everyday for last week without problems until the update today.

The forum password policy must have silently changed? I was forced to have mixed case letters. Could have been handled better.

automatic export still working

At least it's not just me. That generally means I haven't done something silly, & will be faster fix.

@balloni55
ah shit, thanks. "Depth" is a special inner custom variable for the new Seacraft device (https://seacraft.eu/#new-enc3-pro-navigation) :) where seem that Locus Map will be part of the navigation console on the device ...

@T-mo
hmm, I've set Settings > Text-to-speech to Russia to hear the difference and in some cases, I correctly hear Russia TTS even though the app is set to Czech. So I'm unable to simulate it, sorry.

About OSM links: this topic was about links you click on some web page or are sent to the app over the so-called "Intent" Android system.

@Andrew Heard
export > damn, thanks, got it!

required password strength > hmm I've found settings related to this. Not sure what was set here before the forum update, but now "strong" was required. I've lowered this requirement, thanks.

@Menion, very minor refresh issue. If a simulation is running, and it is changed to "indoor" from the compass screen, see screenshot, the gps icon stays red and context menu still allows to turn off.

Never noticed the movement simulation system. Lovely. Of course it very much asks for sppeding up simulation, skipping, stopping, pausing, all the nice stuff.
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@Tapio hmm what exactly is a problem? When the simulation of the location is running, the icon should be red. In the case of real GNSS source, it is orange or green (based on the signal quality) and in other cases, it is simply white.

Hi Menion,
when selecting any point on a completed track, the track info does not show up. ONLY after I move the screen a bit, the info will appear. That is the failure on a Galaxy S10, Android 12.
On a Tab S6 lite, in portrait mode it's the same. In landscape mode, however, an empty info area appears on the right, and after a boring delay the track into shows up.

TXs and cheers
Michael

Quote from: Menion on September 26, 2022, 14:11:47[hmm what exactly is a problem?

The icon stays red after switching FROM "track movement simulation" TO "Indoor training".
That's what I tried to write.

@michaelbechtold
Do you mean by clicking on the track on the map screen and then on the first bottom-left "trackpoint" button? Can't simulate any problem :/

@Tapio
this is correct behavior. Both options you wrote are kind of "simulation" so = red icon.

1) on maps screen you have visible track, nothing selected.
2) tap track
In earlier versions and betas the track info summary appeared split second, now nothing happens. Until I move the the underlying map a bit.

Quote@Tapio
this is correct behavior. Both options you wrote are kind of "simulation" so = red icon.

Oh sorry, I have overlooked there's a difference between what you call indoor training and just GPS off. I see it now.
For more prominent placement, could you elevate the 2 simulation modes into the context menu of the GPS icon in button bar?

There is a problem with the active navigation track display. Starting navigation directly out of route planner, I sometimes get an invisible track which is being navigated.
Didn't find, when it exactly happens, but at least I found a bug in the basic navigation line style - this may be the cause. See video. Track style is set to 6px, but size and transparency fade, depending on zoom level.

https://youtu.be/6pDl6NgINDk

@MichaelBechtold: not a problem here.

satellite screen in 4.11.1.5: why did the Altitude text label change to Depth??

Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 27, 2022, 12:38:49satellite screen in 4.11.1.5: why did the Altitude text label change to Depth??

Hello Andrew
this was also my question in #105
menions answer in #114

@Michael Bechtold
I still see no problem. Hope it was just some temporary glitch. Inform me please after you update, if this issue still persists, thanks!

@Tapio
thanks, this does not look like a major issue, so I'll look at it in the next few days!

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And the new version is out. You already know the news, so enjoy the new map and if someone contributes photos to LoPoints, also a gallery of images :).