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Versions
2. 6. 2022 - Locus 4.10.0

In my map theme settings, the plus in the red button disappears when opening the settings from the side bar.
When going one level higher to the map themes overview and then back again one level down to my map theme settings, the plus is there again.
When opening the map theme settings from the map content button, the plus is always there.

Video:
https://1drv.ms/v/s!AredTfs4J1f5guBbUH8s5inUX6aQ-g

@Menion
"@CabrioTourer
hmm, I was fixing a few days ago minor issue in separating of tracks and seems that when I use your data for the test, I get correct results now (no change in the time). So maybe try it again with the next version, but for me, it looks like the issue is fixed now. Thanks!"

Time diff is just 3min now. I'll check how it works on complete route after vacation.

Other point:
It looks to me that no go areas are not synced via cloud (gold).
Could you add this, please?
These no go areas are very important to force the route algorithm not to route through Italien villages. Very dangerous in the Alps.

Quote from: CabrioTourer on June 02, 2022, 17:31:27These no go areas are very important to force the route algorithm not to route through Italien villages. Very dangerous in the Alps.

Off topic, but why are Italian Alpine villages dangerous?

Quote from: slarti76 on June 03, 2022, 13:59:54

Quote from: CabrioTourer on June 02, 2022, 17:31:27These no go areas are very important to force the route algorithm not to route through Italien villages. Very dangerous in the Alps.

Off topic, but why are Italian Alpine villages dangerous?

Sometimes extremly steep, very narrow in poor condition.

Quote from: CabrioTourer on June 05, 2022, 22:12:11

Quote from: slarti76 on June 03, 2022, 13:59:54

Quote from: CabrioTourer on June 02, 2022, 17:31:27These no go areas are very important to force the route algorithm not to route through Italien villages. Very dangerous in the Alps.

Off topic, but why are Italian Alpine villages dangerous?

Sometimes extremly steep, very narrow in poor condition.

ROTFL, I was actually thinking you were avoiding the villages because of, I don't know, mafia etc. ;)
Can't really imagine that the villages are worse than the actual trails, but then again, I'm mostly hiking in Switzerland...

*** Beta version 4.10.0.1 ***
Minor fixes + NTRIP client for test.

@CabrioTourer
I know. No-go points are handled independently of the points database. And this is an older idea > separate folder just for no-go points. This should solve many problems ...

Ah, I've forgotten to look at the problem reported by @luce, sorry, next time.

Thanks for the quick update
I installed and ran Locus Map Beta with joy.
Unfortunately the mount point is not picked up by the NTRIP client
Click Save to close the Locus Map.

The app does not display the selection of mount points when tapping on the "Load mount points" button? Are you able to provide me with some access for testing purposes? Thanks

Quote from: Menion on June 08, 2022, 15:57:35
The app does not display the selection of mount points when tapping on the "Load mount points" button? Are you able to provide me with some access for testing purposes? Thanks

Selections are displayed but not fixed

Hostname: RTS2.ngii.go.kr
Port: 2101
Username: ****
Password: ****

I'm here again with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 10S, Android 11.
Yesterday I deleted both Locus Classic and Locus Map from my device. After clearing the old settings and restarting the phone I installed Locus Map from scratch, excluded it from any battery optimisation, memory unloading and gave it full access to the GPS under any conditions. Of course the inner Locus options were set to keep fix when track recording.
And again a couple of recorded tracks contained one or more lost GPS fixes, which were presented as the quite long straight lines between two recorded points (when the fix was lost and found again).
It seems to me the application can contain too much of optimization. Because Locus Classic works perfectly.
But it it only my guess  ::)

Hello menion

QuoteNTRIP client for test.

is it possible to add to Bluetooth 4+ also GPS ?

@baegas
Hmm when trying to connect to the caster, I always get "timeout". Is the server running?

@Sersus
unfortunate. We received a few reports about this problem on both app versions during the last month. More than usual. I was checking changes in the core related to GNSS during the last half of the year and a) there were none + b) both apps share identical code regards GNSS handling.

So I'm really sorry, but I currently have absolutely no idea how to improve this new behavior.

@balloni55
And is there any publicly available GNSS device that work over BT4?

It is a server managed by the state.
Occasionally server checks, but not now.

  The captured picture is of a connection to the NTRIP server using the 'Bluetooth GNSS' mock location app.
server is working fine

Hmm sorry, but I'm trying also "Ntrip Checker" app from Google Play, and the same result: I'm simply unable from middle Europe, to connect to this server. Even simple "RTS2.ngii.go.kr" in the web browser ends with a "Server not exists" error.

Quote from: Menion on June 11, 2022, 00:34:19
Hmm sorry, but I'm trying also "Ntrip Checker" app from Google Play, and the same result: I'm simply unable from middle Europe, to connect to this server. Even simple "RTS2.ngii.go.kr" in the web browser ends with a "Server not exists" error.

I think it's because the server is located in South Korea, where I live.
Sorry for not being of any help

QuoteAnd is there any publicly available GNSS device that work over BT4?

i didn´t know, but i have one ;) but it doesn´t matter i own also a normal BT on my Ublox N8M :D

My first experiences with the EPS service (accuracy 0.3-0.8m), which is free of charge in Germany/Badenwürttemberg.
https://www.sapos-bw.de/eps.php

Screencast:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/frb4fr8dxsme2fi/NTRIP.mp4?dl=0

sec 5 > the input of the port values behaves very strange, the 0 can not be removed at start of entering values
sec 44/50 > the selected mount point "EPS" is not taken over
sec 57 > when saving locus is terminated immediately, as already reported by baegas

EDIT: PW per PM to menion

Quote from: Menion on June 08, 2022, 07:54:46
*** Beta version 4.10.0.1 ***
Minor fixes + NTRIP client for test.

@CabrioTourer
I know. No-go points are handled independently of the points database. And this is an older idea > separate folder just for no-go points. This should solve many problems ...

As far as I understand the older idea is an idea for you to fix it?

Where are the no go areas stored?
I want to use Foldersync but noticed it's not part of data/database folder.

I just noticed a change in the Track Editor (aka "Fine-Tuner"): When clicking on a point, the date/time is not shown anymore in the pop-up. Could you please bring that back, at least the time? I really think it's a big step back, I need the time all the time (no pun intended), e.g. to find out where the rest was in a track. Now I need several clicks for the details for every point! The time only takes 5 characters, so I don't really see any reason to get rid of it...

There could be something wrong with track recording... anyone? It didn't record elevation here (I use purely SRTM, they exist and dynamic elevation is shown). See screenshot.
Hmmm. Tools - Update Elevation does not fix it. Will analyse gpx export.
EDIT. Menion, doesn't Locus like completely flat areas? The gpx export has "<ele>10.00</ele>" at any trackpoint.
EDIT2: Yes, bug. I re-imported gpx, the one with all 10.00m is displayed as in screenshot, another one where I changed one ele to 10.01 is displayed correctly.

After the update, there was a problem with the voice messages (distance traveled) while recording the activity. Messages in Polish end after 2 km. Then there is just a "pop" in the audience instead of the complete message about the distance traveled.
The problem is only in Polish, in English there is no problem.
In earlier versions, everything worked fine.
I checked on two phones and it is the same with my friend.

ps. Today I am planning a trip for 4 weeks and I will not be visiting the forum for this time.

"Fine-tune" terminology. Why? I guess to distinguish from Route Planner. But imo it's a weird choice. After all, it is a track editor. And e. g. I don't expect split/merge under fine-tune.

Quote from: tapio on June 16, 2022, 11:28:55
"Fine-tune" terminology. Why? I guess to distinguish from Route Planner. But imo it's a weird choice. After all, it is a track editor. And e. v. I don't expect split/merge under fine-tune.

there was some discussion a few weeks ago, but maybe you missed it?

Quote from: Andrew Heard on June 16, 2022, 16:17:14

Quote from: tapio on June 16, 2022, 11:28:55
"Fine-tune" terminology. Why? I guess to distinguish from Route Planner. But imo it's a weird choice. After all, it is a track editor. And e. v. I don't expect split/merge under fine-tune.

there was some discussion a few weeks ago, but maybe you missed it?

OK will search, yes, missed it.

I suggested "Fine Tune", but it wasn't my first choice.  "Edit Track" would be better (if not causing confusion with "Edit Info"), or "Track Editor" if a noun is appropriate here, or even "Modify Track" which I think was the original text.  "Modify Track" sounds ideal to me.

I'm not sure if nouns are appropriate as menu commands, but there's an advantage to the command being the same as the title of the screen that shows up, eg Route Planner, Track Editor.

@balloni55
I'm curious. Is it some kind of publicly available BT4-based GNSS device? Where may I check and purchase it?

@CabrioTourer
I would not call it "fix", but yes, there already is an idea to merge "no-go" points with the current "points" system.

Currently they are stored in the Locus\cache\various\nogo_places.lb

@slarti76
Hmm removed time&date in the popup is some kind of unwanted side-effect. This feature should be an optional settings in the Settings > Points & tracks > Track label > . This option is anyway missing in the LM4 and seems you did some "reset" of settings so this option was changed to the default "false". Will be fixed in the next app version.

@tapio
problem with elevation sounds like a very serious problem! I see no such issue in my recent app version I use. Post me here a screenshot of the first tab of the "Altitude manager" so I can set up the same settings and try to simulate it, thanks.

Discussion about the naming: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7917.msg67994#msg67994 . @michal also liked this "label" so be it ... is it really so bad?

@WujTom
will have to try listen to Polish TTS to test it :)

As for terminology, what Viajero says, same preference by me. Imo the track editor isn't just fine-tuning. Fine-tune to my ears sounds less like a serious tool but more like "fiddling around", but I'm not a native EN speaker.

Btw any plans to allow undo/cancel save in track fine tune editor 😉? Changes there are instantly applied.

Screenshot and GPX attached. In the GPX, every TP has "<ele>10.00</ele>" - which Locus seems to misinterpret. I think not so serious, totally flat tracks are rather rare.

Quote from: Menion on June 16, 2022, 21:13:12
@slarti76
Hmm removed time&date in the popup is some kind of unwanted side-effect. This feature should be an optional settings in the Settings > Points & tracks > Track label > . This option is anyway missing in the LM4 and seems you did some "reset" of settings so this option was changed to the default "false". Will be fixed in the next app version.

Thx. Talking about "reset of settings": I mentioned this before, but I can confirm now that it happens with every install of a new beta version: Navigation>Select Voice is reset to "Text-to-speech". I always set it to "No voice", and everytime after a new install and I start a navigation, I suddenly hear a voice again, because TTS got reset to default. Not a biggie, just weird nobody else seems to have it (perhaps everyone here uses TTS?)...

QuoteI'm curious. Is it some kind of publicly available BT4-based GNSS device?

no, i have two different BT modules for testing. don't waste any more time on this.

Are there any new findings about NTRIP?

Quote from: tapio on June 16, 2022, 11:28:55
"Fine-tune" terminology. Why? I guess to distinguish from Route Planner. But imo it's a weird choice. After all, it is a track editor. And e. g. I don't expect split/merge under fine-tune.

OK, we're renaming it to "Edit track". It is more generic than "repair" or "fine-tune" and the tool in which it is done is called "Track editor". Hopefully this will suit the majority.

@tapio
Ah, I thought that the app records always 10m no matter where you are moving! Seems your 2km track really lay on the area, totally flat. Is it even possible?  ::)

Highest elevation: 10.000205m, lowest 9.99787  :D. The app is really confused by this. So the problem is the chart, right? I'll look at it, but as you wrote: really really rare case.

Undo/redo in the track editor is a really big task, so no plans for now.

@slarti76
and how do you install the beta version? Simply "over" the existing installed app or do you first remove the current installation? There should be no reason to reset the preferences.

@balloni55
NTRIP > there was missing support for other RTCM formats. Added at least version 3.1 and 3.2, so it should work for now. And "Port" parameter ... I know, it does not work perfectly for now  :-\

QuoteNTRIP > there was missing support for other RTCM formats. Added at least version 3.1 and 3.2, so it should work for now

where can i find the AFA.apk?

Quote from: Michal on June 17, 2022, 10:50:18...
OK, we're renaming it to "Edit track". It is more generic than "repair" or "fine-tune" and the tool in which it is done is called "Track editor". Hopefully this will suit the majority.

I agree, "Edit track" for me is a better discription of this function.

I don't understand why "Routenplaner" was replaced by "Route neuberechnen."
For me this describes a function in navigation, but here it is no recalculation but a modification of an existing track.
Suggestion: Route ändern / editieren / modifizieren... Or rename it "Routenplaner" like it was before.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220617/ee4dae2a9f5db507c5b0ccd736547905.jpg)

I see a glitch with TTS similar to what Slarti mentioned.  If I reboot the phone (Android 9), then try to navigate in Locus, there's no voice.  In Android Settings I need to go Accessibility, Text-to-Speech (simply open the dialog), at which point Locus suddenly says either "Text to Speech correctly set", or "Let's go", depending on where it was waiting.

This only happens once after each reboot, but it's been doing it for a few years.  I don't really mind, since I know the workaround.  It's a quirk.  :)

Quote from: Graf Geo on June 17, 2022, 17:06:55

Quote from: Michal on June 17, 2022, 10:50:18...
OK, we're renaming it to "Edit track". It is more generic than "repair" or "fine-tune" and the tool in which it is done is called "Track editor". Hopefully this will suit the majority.

I agree, "Edit track" for me is a better discription of this function.

I don't understand why "Routenplaner" was replaced by "Route neuberechnen."

Agreed. A translators funny idea. Haven't done translation for a while and login at hand, if it's not changed by some translator I'll revert it on Sun/Mon.

Quote from: balloni55 on June 17, 2022, 13:01:06

QuoteNTRIP > there was missing support for other RTCM formats. Added at least version 3.1 and 3.2, so it should work for now

where can i find the AFA.apk?

URLs in Menions sig

@tapio

QuoteURLs in Menions sig

thank you, I am aware of that
the current version there is from 8.6.
I have reported my problem on 11.6.
that's why I asked

*** New Beta version 4.10.0.3 published ***

Finally for the Beta test, a longly awaited feature (at least for me). Option to add your own photo to online LoPoints. I've created a separate topic here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7994.0).

@Viajero Perdido
Interesting issue with TTS. I've never noticed any problem  :-\

@balloni55
pick of NTRIP caster mountpoint seems to work correctly, but your name & pass does not work to me, so give it a try please, maybe just a typo on my side, thanks.

The mount point loads just fine as shown in the screenshot
but the mount point is not selectable

QuoteNTRIP > there was missing support for other RTCM formats. Added at least version 3.1 and 3.2

for my need RTCM 2.3 is necessary, for now it is grayed and not selectabel, see SS

Quotebut your name & pass does not work to me,

for me it work perfect with app
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=bluetooth+gnss&c=apps&hl=de
an there i can select EPS_BW for use with my name & pass
when i turn on this app locus uses GNSS +NTRIP EPS-BW as "Mock Location" with the desired accuracy ~1m

locus is still terminated as soon as I press "save". ::)

Menion, {mapLat} and {mapLon} transfer leading zeroes (lon can be "007.1234") can you please remove those? May cause problems/need workaround at backend sometimes.

I cannot add an existing image (whether internal or external SD) to a POI with LM4 or LMC.
take a new photo work

@baegas
May you simply open in your web browser open the link "RTS2.ngii.go.kr:2101"? This should display, in the text form, a list of mount points so if you may copy & paste the text of that page, it may help, thanks.

@balloni55
Oki, I've enabled support for RTCM 2.x, but as I have no device that supports it, the test is on you. The crash should be fixed as well, thanks!

"I cannot add an existing image" > what does it mean "you can't"? What happens when you click on the "Select photo" button?

@tapio
hmm, the same format is used in more places (Coordinate grid, some web requests), but in all places, this should not cause a problem. Oki, I'll change it, thanks.

Quotewhat does it mean "you can't"? What happens when you click on the "Select photo" button?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qjd8bdycr3ldxqm/20220619_152743.mp4?dl=0

Leading zero in lat/lon in my observation (I think there was a reason) are typical in degree/minute/second formats, also the purely floating point with N/S/E/W prefix. But not in the number only format.

Quote from: Menion on June 19, 2022, 14:54:22
@baegas
May you simply open in your web browser open the link "RTS2.ngii.go.kr:2101"? This should display, in the text form, a list of mount points so if you may copy & paste the text of that page, it may help, thanks.

It didn't work as you said, so I went to another site.
As in the screenshot, the mount point is either inactive (gray) or active. Click on the active location to select it(but all mount points must be active by default)
Click on the active location, select the mount point, enter the name and password, and then click Save, Locus Map 4 stops and exits the app.

Quote from: Graf Geo on June 17, 2022, 17:06:55

I don't understand why "Routenplaner" was replaced by "Route neuberechnen."
For me this describes a function in navigation, but here it is no recalculation but a modification of an existing track.
Suggestion: Route ändern / editieren / modifizieren... Or rename it "Routenplaner" like it was before.

This is rather a problem of the German translation - the English original is "Re-route" meaning "change the route progress in the route planner". I'll change it to "Route ändern" then. Thanks!

Thank you, Michal. I think "Route ändern" is a good solution.

I guess English is the only language that has reroute as own verb, most languages have 'route' as noun only and then it's the sensitive question what's up with it..a lot of possible words might even sound awkward as noone would use it that way
As long as we write locus without k everything is fine.. ;D

Hello!
HTML parsing doesn't work, see screenshot.
Best, Lucas

*** Beta 4.10.0.4 ***

just published. I hope that most of the reported problems will be fixed. Thanks for testing and excuse me for a few days. Small vacation with family.

Hope you all enjoy this year also some nice "vacation" activities  ;)

You've worked hard, but unfortunately in the new beta version, the NTRIP client has the same symptoms (mount point inactive, locus map 4 stops when connecting)

Have a good vacation

I displayed many tracks and noticed some display refresh issues, lots of tracks disappearing. Re-appearing after some zooming. Will observe.

@baegas
Hmm then without a list of mountpoints, I'm really unable to do something with it. Od you just open thé web:port in thé web browser, what do you see?

@tapio
It is possible. I did some performance optimizations where this may be a side effect. If you find any steps to simulate it, it should helps a lot, thanks!

Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

Quote from: Menion on June 23, 2022, 21:59:11It is possible. I did some performance optimizations where this may be a side effect. If you find any steps to simulate it, it should helps a lot, thanks!

Seems like it may have been related to something else: I changed the line width of tracks on a folder basis, folder has 120 tracks which are visible. Locus applys it instantly, but displaying, zooming, dragging, map rendering stays very stuttering until I go to track manager, hide all, go to map view, go back in track manager, show all from folder again. Then it runs smooth again.

Quote from: Menion on June 23, 2022, 21:59:11
@baegas
Hmm then without a list of mountpoints, I'm really unable to do something with it. Od you just open thé web:port in thé web browser, what do you see?

As shown in the screenshot, the web page appears in "RTS2.ngii.go.kr:2101" but not in "gnss.eseoul.go.kr:2101"

@tapio
slowness after the change of style is caused by the future created a few months ago. App now automatically refreshes preview during import and when something changes. So these 120 previews take some time, hmm...

@baegas
Hmm oki. Anyway, if any NTRIP server does not work, a good start is to print me here a "SourceTable" page content.

"App now automatically refreshes preview" - ah, I remember. I wish I could turn it off because it is dependent on the currently loaded map. Track previews outside of the maps area get a blank background. Here it does more harm and uses cpu than it helps. I'd suggest a per folder submenu, "Refresh previews". More user awareness.

Drawing mode menu has unwanted html displayed at bottom. Also in Classic.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220626/0df4d1fdc7cb29becee983211a2f6870.jpg)

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In the latest Beta version, switching the Dashboard using presets does not work. I selected the Dashboard manually and in all Presets the preset has changed to this type. Now dashboards in presets cannot be set.

changing presets with linked dashboards still works for me in the latest beta

It worked for me too, but when I selected one Dashboard from the menu, the settings of all Presets changed to this dashboard. And it can't be changed anymore. Even the recovery from the backup did not help.

Version 4.10.0.4 : When I go to the Map manager, and in WMS/WMTS I click on the red + button, it crashes the app. Happens on two devices. Behaviour of the Map manager v2 is similar - red button, web services and then crash...
Fixed in 4.10.0.6

Tried following first time. Might be an old bug:
- Export a point wich has an attached file (m4a) as kmz.
- delete point
- import that kmz
- result (bug) :  Point is imported without file.

The kmz includes the file. Guess import doesn't handle files correctly.
Btw. imported the kmz with a file explorer (x-plore)

I checked because I want to create a kmz for myself (using tasker) to import point with added audio file.

The problem with import kmz is related to the subfolder "files" for the appendix.
Even it's correctly written to kml file with files/.....

If I create a kmz where the appended file is not in a subfolder (and adjust kml ofc) it works.

For me it's no problem to use non subfolder kmz.
But I think it should be fixed. Looks weird if locus can't import a self exported kmz.

Dashboards in presets broken for me as well.

While I was hiking with guidance on, the guided track turned transparent. Its style has arrows and only the arrows were visible. I think I have seen that long ago. Stopping and starting guidance is the worksround.

Quote from: tapio on July 03, 2022, 10:07:47
Dashboards in presets broken for me as well.

Still broken in recent beta. Presets only turn dashboards on or off. But they don't change which one is used.

It's the same for me. They can't change in the preset at all, Locus doesn't remember the change.

Vacation is nice, but it is good to be back  :D

@john_percy
html code > should be already fixed, thanks

@Žajdlík Josef, @tapio
Dashboard > damn, the side-effect of a different problem. I'll give it a second try, thanks!

@CabrioTourer
Interesting problem with attachment. I'm trying it with the simple picture over GPX or KML and in both cases, it seems to work correctly. May you please share any problematic file with me? Thanks.

Hello menion
I hope you could enjoy the short vacation with the family

QuoteOki, I've enabled support for RTCM 2.x, but as I have no device that supports it, the test is on you. The crash should be fixed as well, thanks!

RTCM 2.x  can be selected now, thanks :)

when saving, locus is still terminated :-[

Thanks for the tests balloni.

A quick test with version 4.10.0.8? Thanks  :)

I just had fun testing the new beta version
I tested the connection to the NTRIP server, and the connection was successful and I received the RTCM message.
However, there are some servers that cannot be connected due to the characteristics of the server.
Guess I'll have to test this more after the weekend

Have a nice vacation, thank you Menion

Quote from: Menion on July 08, 2022, 22:48:14
Thanks for the tests balloni.

A quick test with version 4.10.0.8? Thanks  :)

Dashboards in presets still broken. Now after I change the dashboard in a preset, it does not change it. Ie I check preset again and the change has not been saved.

Hello Menion,
just a visual thing: The zoom buttons and the map content button are not exactly aligned. Probably this was the case all the while, but now, with all buttons having the same colour, it catches my eye :)
Best, Lucas

... and I know I'm getting on your nerves a little bit, but the position of the scale bar is really strange in the left handed layout. To my mind it would be most logical to mirror the bar (compared to the right handed layout) so that its left side is fixed directly beside the (c) sign and its right side varies accouding to the chosen zoom factor.

Quote from: Menion on July 08, 2022, 10:09:42

@CabrioTourer
Interesting problem with attachment. I'm trying it with the simple picture over GPX or KML and in both cases, it seems to work correctly. May you please share any problematic file with me? Thanks.

Thanks for your test.This forced me to do it with other files and the answer is that the issue depends on the file extension.
I exported a file with three attachments. Mp3, mp4 and m4a
The last one (m4a) doesn't work.The other two do.

QuoteA quick test with version 4.10.0.8?

now NTRIP caster can be saved :)

and i can start and stop it

for now
- although i get the info connected, i can´t see any messages
- sat used > 0
- horiz. accuracy > 0
- no accuracy circle visible on map

As in the first screenshot, it almost coincided with the green dot created using RTK (I made a reference point with RTK in advance using another app and tested it against that point)

The connection to the NTRIP server was successful and RTK Fix was performed, and the horizontal accuracy was 1cm (2nd screenshot), but sometimes a network error occurs.

Connection is smooth through mobile communication network or wifi with only one smartphone, but when using two smartphones to connect to a hotspot, a connection error occurs after connecting to the NTRIP server (3rd screenshot)

And if you run it in the background, the locus map will stop running.

It would be nice to display the GPS (GNSS) quality like the last screenshot (Example of GPS quality display: 2D, 3D, DGPS, RTK Float , RTK Fix)

V 4.10.0.8
furthermore problem with dashboard inside preset, for me always first of available dashboard in list is used

I found a issue for points. It's not possible to save a point if link url for a google maps link was added. For example like:
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=47.6901176,9.8241102&q=47.6901176,9.8241102&z=18.5

I exported a point with a easy link and changed kml with the Google Maps Link .Complete import doesn't work in this case. I guess bcs special chars needs to be escaped. Might be the same for the point edit dialog.

No one has commented on the change of Zoom button color in 4.10.0.8. I like it - consistent with other buttons & better contrast, but being such a big visual change I'm hoping there isn't a user backlash & reversion to original color scheme :D

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 12, 2022, 03:40:28
No one has commented on the change of Zoom button color in 4.10.0.8. I like it - consistent with other buttons & better contrast, but being such a big visual change I'm hoping there isn't a user backlash & reversion to original color scheme :D

Thoughts on the compass needle button? It's still white. I'm undecided.

I hesitate to (auto) hide the centering button btw only because then the bump in the bottom bar is unnecessary. That makes no sense. It should be evened out or maybe the centering going into the bottom bar.

The logic show/hide in case of the centering button should rather be: "show outside / inside bottom bar"

Quote from: tapio on July 12, 2022, 11:35:13

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 12, 2022, 03:40:28
No one has commented on the change of Zoom button color in 4.10.0.8. I like it - consistent with other buttons & better contrast, but being such a big visual change I'm hoping there isn't a user backlash & reversion to original color scheme :D

Thoughts on the compass needle button? It's still white. I'm undecided.

I hesitate to (auto) hide the centering button btw only because then the bump in the bottom bar is unnecessary. That makes no sense. It should be evened out or maybe the centering going into the bottom bar.

The logic show/hide in case of the centering button should rather be: "show outside / inside bottom bar"

I would leave the compass white. With black, the red north arrow is hard to see. Poor contrast black and white.

- cannot really see a change
- do the buttons have a 1px border of different color? Looks a bit strange, some visual effect
- compass needle - this way ok to me
- blue color of lock-symbol for centering-lock is still of low contrast and super ugly

Quote from: luce on July 09, 2022, 10:37:02
Hello Menion,
just a visual thing: The zoom buttons and the map content button are not exactly aligned. Probably this was the case all the while, but now, with all buttons having the same colour, it catches my eye :)
Best, Lucas

for me the effect only occurs when the zoom button size is set to small

now I see with zoom in my screenshots above..each button has an octogonal shape in the background-layer
maybe some transparency/alpha-channel leftover or support for contrast, dunno

Quote from: tapio on July 12, 2022, 11:35:13
Thoughts on the compass needle button? It's still white. I'm undecided.

good point but I'm also undecided

Hello!
When I search for e.g. a restaurant with the inbuilt online search tool, I get double entrys (see screenshot). Happens with Google and GraphHopper, but not with Bing. I am not sure since when this behaviour is occurring, anyway it's not new.

Another search issue:
When I look for "persisch" (persian) directly in Google Maps, I get restaurants in 7 or 8 km distance.
When i put the same word "persisch" in the inbuilt Google search in Locus, I get none of the near restaurants, but such in 139 to 721 km distance.  :o
Obviously the search algorithm is not the same. It would be nice if Locus would display the same search results. As for now, sometimes I have to use Locus and Google Maps parallelly when I am searching e.g. for restaurants.
Best, Lucas

@tapio
thanks for the other test of the dashboard. Damn ... so next attempt, sorry for this.

@luce
align of a content button & zoom buttons > thanks, improved. Small buttons are now aligned to "Map content" button. Big zoom buttons now, but here it does not seems to be so visible = no problem. Btw. nice usage of the "grid"  :D

Scale view > good point, fixed.

@CabrioTourer
ah, M4a was not considered as an "audio" format. Should be fixed, thanks

Not working link > thanks, the problem was in "comma", fixed

@balloni55
Hmm, this is weird. And without NTRIP you are able to get any sats & accuracy? If so, what happens when you enable NTRIP a little later (once you will have valid fix & sats)?

@baegas
If you long click on the app main menu, there is an option "Log to file". If you enable this option and try it again, app should create a log with more info in the Locus/logs directory. This file should help, thanks.

@Andrew Heard
The dark compass button was really a problem with the current red rose. Because of this, I've left it white for now.

@T-mo
- hexagons in semi-transparent buttons > weird right? Some issue in the Android library that is visible only in case, buttons are semi-transparent. I was trying to find and hack on this > but no success so far.

- "lock button" > hmm almost invisible, good point

@luce
search, well ... I do not think there is a need to explain anything. Search is bad in the app and it is something we will work on this!! year for the app and also for the web. What you see is the combined result of the search of the selected search engine and also our own online LoPoints (colored symbols). Thanks for understanding.

@Menion
Beside the comma problem. Looks like url is lost when importing a kmz.
I created a point. Added a url. I tried different ones. For example strawberryperl.com.
Exported the point as kmz.
Deleted point and imported the kmz.
Point was created but without any url.

Quote from: Menion on July 13, 2022, 14:19:21
The dark compass button was really a problem with the current red rose. Because of this, I've left it white for now.

@menion - no worries, unlike Zoom buttons, I don't have any strong feeling with compass button

Quote from: Menion on July 13, 2022, 14:19:21
@luce
search, well ... I do not think there is a need to explain anything. Search is bad in the app and it is something we will work on this!!

And search results.

I needed to search for all tracks with track titles starting with 2022, in order to export them all. Not possible, no regex, text search is only a simple "contains" match. Ok. But the results! Pretty useless if there's many matches. No multiselect, no commands, just pick one for viewing.

Quote from: tapio on July 14, 2022, 09:15:04
Not possible, no regex

@tapio - see attached - I haven't tested but regex is mentioned.

@CabrioTourer
with KML it is a problem. As I know, such fields are not natively supported, as well as many others. So this is probably missing in KML workflow. Suggest to use GPX instead ;)

@tapio
the whole search needs to be re-worked, we know it very well!

Search by regex: very nice description of this feature by Geordghere (https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/27571-2nd-layer-filteringadvanced-filtering#comment-115556).

Quote from: Menion on July 14, 2022, 14:18:05
@CabrioTourer
with KML it is a problem. As I know, such fields are not natively supported, as well as many others. So this is probably missing in KML workflow. Suggest to use GPX instead ;)

@tapio
the whole search needs to be re-worked, we know it very well!

Search by regex: very nice description of this feature by Geordghere (https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/27571-2nd-layer-filteringadvanced-filtering#comment-115556).

Wait, you are saying there's a regex engine behind it? Will try. EDIT: Ok, not yet in Point/track search, right? I simply tried ^2022.*
Functionality will be useful if we can do more with the results, but I fully understand it's not there yet.

No problem.

Some cool feature I found.
Searched for a restaurant. Selected the search result. Added a point at that location.
Locus filled out not just the address, even Telephon Number and Url. Genius.
Thanks Locus team.

Dashboards vs. presets in todays new beta:
WORKS. Very likely. Thx Menion. Will observe. For every preset the dashboard had to be defined again in order to display the correct one.

just in case any of you beta users missed this comment from @menion https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/28029-v4-gui-improvement-by-offering-more-freedom-of-panel-placement#comment-115823 (29th June, currently 2nd to last comment in thread) just imagine the possibilities of laying out all your own buttons & other GUI objects on a fully custom dashboard - wouldn't that be awesome ;D

I get an error by backup settings to Dropbox. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220717/94aac9f71e61531f18fc50280d0d1b07.jpg)

Quote from: Menion on July 13, 2022, 14:19:21

@baegas
If you long click on the app main menu, there is an option "Log to file". If you enable this option and try it again, app should create a log with more info in the Locus/logs directory. This file should help, thanks.

This is a log file for connection errors when connecting to Ntrip.

Thanks Menion for version 4.10.0.9:

– Scale aligned to left side: looks tidy
– New zoom lock badge: looks cool
– Point detail in side container: better usability

:)

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 17, 2022, 06:50:14
just imagine the possibilities of laying out all your own buttons & other GUI objects on a fully custom dashboard - wouldn't that be awesome ;D

Indeed but my needs are just simpler. It's hard to touch the right button while riding.
For me a placeholder which does nothing, just to separate the active ones would be helpful.

Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 17, 2022, 06:50:14
just in case any of you beta users missed this comment from @menion https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/28029-v4-gui-improvement-by-offering-more-freedom-of-panel-placement#comment-115823 (29th June, currently 2nd to last comment in thread) just imagine the possibilities of laying out all your own buttons & other GUI objects on a fully custom dashboard - wouldn't that be awesome ;D

This is good news. Personally I wish userdef functions as in "Quick bookmarks" could find their way up front. I have  lots of useful stuff in there, usually linked to Tasker. Latest addition: "Goto clipboard" - Map instantly jumps to clipboards position - All kinds of latlon formats and pluscodes allowed 🙂. idk, the Locus way is just to buried for me.

plannings for introducing custom buttons in dashboards would improve flexibility and if so, I am with tapio, it should be possible to trigger any kind of action with it, like any other digital (UI) or hardware button would do.

@Menion: when optimizations in LoPoints and search get addressed, I suggest to also use some 2 weeks of collecting/sharing ideas, opinions, needs upfront

The map orientation during navigation is not optimal. I have the screen off during navigation. Locus turns the screen on briefly when a turn is indicated.
The first thing that happens after switching on: Locus has to align the map first and everything spins. Locus always starts to rotate the map from north. If I drive to the south, it is a lot of turning. After that I am iritated for a while. That's why I have to leave the screen on longer. Which of course costs a lot of battery.
Suggestion: Locus gives turn-by-turn directions based on the distance to the turn, in seconds. Locus could align the map in the background 2-3 seconds before turning on the screen.

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Quote from: tapio on July 17, 2022, 17:16:28
Personally I wish userdef functions as in "Quick bookmarks" could find their way up front. I have  lots of useful stuff in there, usually linked to Tasker.

Could you explain me how you connent to tasker? The only way I found was with Secondary Tasker App which is very limited.

Quote from: CabrioTourer on July 17, 2022, 15:58:43
Indeed but my needs are just simpler. It's hard to touch the right button while riding.
For me a placeholder which does nothing, just to separate the active ones would be helpful.

@CabrioTourer - indeed x 2 - I've have similar ideas in multiple help topics over years (including dummy "placeholder" button) but not enough votes. Although more work (for @Menion), being able to space out buttons in a custom dashboard (including Zoom buttons) would give you ultimate user-control of placement. Thinking further ahead, these custom dashboards may even be shared via Cloud Sync, and templates available from the Locus store.

@menion - regards 4.10.0.9 beta

• "support for com.mg.raintoday" - how to test?
• "improved own icon in Live tracking" - see 1st attached - icon is painted before the track so mostly hidden; I recall months back suggesting icon is painted over track for better visibility & you agreed? maybe
• bottom saved track info panel - top of 2-row track name is truncated; may be a recent issue - see 2nd attached; I don't recall this happening before

Quote from: CabrioTourer on July 17, 2022, 22:10:31Could you explain me how you connent to tasker? The only way I found was with Secondary Tasker App which is very limited.

Much easier way... And you can pass %par1 and %par2 into tasks just as in "Perform Task" command:

tasker://assistantactions?task=MyTask&par1=whateverArgument&par2={mapLat},{mapLon},{mapEle}

You may be interested... I'm sharing useful GPS related stuff up on Taskernet, eg. Pluscode, Latlon format converters, or a geopos calculator.

https://taskernet.com/?user=AS35m8kdDIMDeveQcQfRglam%2Fah1mTW%2FWcg05FZ39c0i1q%2F77iY3E7cIwxCkXqJTaTA%3D

Interesting. I just completed a tasker projekt to add points of comments for my "known street" database.
Means recording audio while riding, translate into text. Create a kmz file with location, audio and transcription which can be imported in locus.

The tasker side is ok for me. What I would like to know is how you trigger the tasker tasks from Locus. Specialy if you have an idea to even parse parameters.
You mentioned something like "quick bookmark" in first post but have no idea what you mean.

Bcs it's off topic to locus you might give me a hint via Email mzk@libertynet.eu

Quote from: CabrioTourer on July 18, 2022, 17:00:58
Interesting. I just completed a tasker projekt to add points of comments for my "known street" database.
Means recording audio while riding, translate into text. Create a kmz file with location, audio and transcription which can be imported in locus.

The tasker side is ok for me. What I would like to know is how you trigger the tasker tasks from Locus. Specialy if you have an idea to even parse parameters.
You mentioned something like "quick bookmark" in first post but have no idea what you mean.

Bcs it's off topic to locus you might give me a hint via Email mzk@libertynet.eu

Is not an issue for here. But maybe open a topic in the forum. eg. Other Features. It might be useful for others too.

@CabrioTourer: Quick Bookmark is something you can add to Locus toolbars/menu.

Additionally there's Falcos Tasker plugin. This one offers another possibility to start Tasker tasks. Since you can send arguments with quick bookmarks, I start map position dependent tasks from there. Not position related tasks from the plugin menu.

@tapio
right, currently regex "search" works only for points & tracks filter

@arnor
hmm, the problem with Dropbox > app should refresh the required access token automatically, but when this does not happen, please try to logout and login again (top three-dot menu in toolbar), thanks

@baegas
thanks for the log. I see that the app tries incorrectly read RTCM messages, so I've for now disabled some "message analysis". It should work in next version, thanks.

@freischneider
Because of optimizations, the compass should be disabled when the screen is off. Anyway good point, I'll look at it. In the worst case, I should at least disable rotation animation, so it should happen instantly.

--- TASKER ---

I'm also not skilled too much with tasks, so maybe it should be interesting to discuss this in a separate topic(s)? Feel free to create any ... and I've created a board for this here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?board=66.0).

I'll add a task after I checked the possibilities tapio mentioned.

Hmmm, I'm quite sure I noted this once:
I don't use presets a lot and I am familiar with all settings, so I'm fine.
Though in my opinion as new user you might get easily misleading and the most important notice is only given after hitting a button: see screenshot.
IMHO this should be noted above the presets..as any already available choice will apply the pre-settings (just a limited number of all, sure) and will move you away from your current settings - whatever you are using now, and maybe you are not aware of, after applying it will not be available any more, no undo also. Tryout is a one way ticket.
So creating a new preset is a must have as 1st step..or try and error.
If it would be up to me I would check preset usage.. if applying a preset 1st time or after 3 months of inactivity here, spend a note and request confirmation.

Applying presets changes current setting(s). I mean, this is the very core concept. You think that's not clear enough? After all, people could restore settings from backup.
Or you convince Menion, "undo" is a good idea. Upon applying a preset, Locus would have to internally store the settings which are about to be changed. Sounds doable...

Quote from: Menion on July 18, 2022, 22:18:04
@arnor
hmm, the problem with Dropbox > app should refresh the required access token automatically, but when this does not happen, please try to logout and login again (top three-dot menu in toolbar), thanks

I've tried all sorts of things now.  Restart app, device, dropbox.  It didn't help.  What might be of interest is the following:

We use a total of 4 devices here.  Two of my own on 1 Locus account.  Two others belong to my wife on a different Locus account.  Locus 4.10 runs on all these devices.  Both my wife and I use the same types of devices, namely a Samsung A52 as a smartphone and a Samsung A6 as a tablet.

For the time being, I have organized separate backup folders for all devices within the same Dropbox account.

The same (already reported) problem occurs with my tablet and my smartphone.  My wife's tablet does get a follow-up screen where the intention is apparently to choose a folder, but a folder structure is not visible.  My wife's smartphone does show an error message, but something different from mine.  The message has been added here.

My device appears to have access to the Google Drive cloud.

I hope you can do something with this.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220721/4659a4ef9e7d065ed1e58348ab32c61b.jpg)

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-P610 met Tapatalk

@arnor: "file path can no longer be used" may give a hint?
Do you have a paid Dropbox account? Free ones have a limit of 3 devices, I experienced.

Quote from: tapio on July 21, 2022, 10:05:21
Applying presets... You think that's not clear enough? After all, people could restore settings from backup.

:) your comment point to a detail I first wanted to note about the help/manual but did not.
I am also saying 'applying a preset' instead of 'activating a preset'. Super nerdy detail i know.
The very 1st time I thought it might be about Profiles..thank god it's not. Reading help..zzzip, finished. Let's use that another time.
Hmmm, warning or offer 'With Presets you can reset whole Locus with two taps.'  :D
I doubt most do backups of settings before testing e.g. presets, might be wrong, available to Premium-grade anyway.

Thank you
New beta version works fine with internet RTK and runs fine in background
I haven't tested whether it works for more than an hour yet, so I need to test it a bit more, but it works very well for a short connection
Some improvements have to change the spelling of the title NRTIP, and the mount point is not activated depending on the server I mentioned before.
And when RTK is connected, it is not displayed.
So, as I said before, it would be better to display the GPS quality like the screenshot.

Quote from: michaelbechtold on July 21, 2022, 23:14:11
@arnor: "file path can no longer be used" may give a hint?
Do you have a paid Dropbox account? Free ones have a limit of 3 devices, I experienced.

Yes. I have a paid Dropbox-account.

To avoid misunderstandings, I checked with Dropbox.  I have a Plus subscription there.  The number of devices that can be 'connected' and synchronized is unlimited.

I don't know why a path wouldn't be available.  Within the Dropbox app, one specific account is used on all devices.  In addition, some folders from Dropbox (including the folder in which I want to place the backups) are also available offline on all devices.

I've had a few forum discussions about the initial inaccuracy of vertical elevation over the years i.e. before the phone has had sufficient time to stabilize the GPS (one from 2017). In the attached screen cap the real elevation should remain about 50m +/- 5m but clearly the track recording was started when the vertical accuracy was +/-1500m. Crazy & stupid. It appears the GPGGA NMEA "sentence" has a Horizontal Dilution of Precision field (HDOP) but no Vertical Dilution of Precision that could be used to avoid such silliness. Is there another way the device/ Android/ GPS/ Locus could calculate the accuracy of its vertical elevation & prevent recording until a certain threshold was (optionally) achieved? Sorry @menion, you may have already answered in 2017 but thought this particular chart was quite amusing ;-)

I played a bit with the "next turn" panel and after disabling it and then setting it to "full" again, the grey button (the one without an icon) has come to stay...
Now every time I start a navigation, this button appears although it is not needed because the "next turn" panel works as a button.
This is not intended behaviour, is it?

The "manage account" and the "purchase history" screen stay empty in the latest app version (4.10.0.11 – RC).

"Alternative screen off" method is definitely broken. It worked well for some app versions, but it does not any more. Toggling the switch on and off makes no difference. Using another app, e.g. a music player app paralelly to Locus is not possible any more without unlocking my phone by putting the PIN every time I want to change the volume, skip a song etc.

I didn't update my OS, I checked the "admin mode" setting and the "allow to change system settings" setting of Locus.

Do you have any idea what could be the reason for this and how to make it work again?

My bottom panel is set to stay permanently, my left panel is set to disappear within a certain time or by double-tapping. The panel orientation is set to "centered".

When I turn my phone so that the screen orientation changes from portrait to landscape and then turn the phone to portrait again, the left panel is suddently aligned at the bottom.

Double-tapping twice restores the centring of the panel. See screen cap video.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AredTfs4J1f5gugAfaSpHkWh96QI5w

@T-mo, @tapio
There is more options on how to improve Presets. I'm still playing in my mind with two
- remember state before applying preset and allow restoring the previous state (already used in the navigation!)
- change the whole concept that you will be always in one active! preset (profile) and will just switch between them

I'm just not sure if I want to spend quite a lot of time with the second option (that I like more) ...

@arnor
discussed in a separate topic (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8032.0), weird anyway

@baegas
hmm, finally, amazing! Thanks for the patience.
More info about current GNSS status is already done in Locus GIS. I'll think about how to bring these values to Locus Map as well. Well, firstly we have to internally confirm, that NTRIP support should be added to Locus Map  :)

@Andrew Heard
eh 1500m jump, that is not nice  :). Well, the app already skips the first few locations to avoid these problems. But I also noticed almost everytime, that the first few points have a higher elevation than it should be. Oki, thanks for the push, I'll at least look it ...

@luce
- "Navigation menu" > thanks, got it
- Empty screens > hmm, it seems to work correctly for me. Hope it was just a temporary problem of "older" version
- "Screen off, alt. version" > as I see, I was not touching this function since January. Sorry, no idea ..
- align of the side panel > thanks, fixed

I have a simple request.
When searching for a address using online google just use online google ;)

Jokes apart.
I noticed for quite a while the search is a bit stupid.
I'm normally copy contact info from a Website and search in Locus. The chance is high to get many results which has not much to do with the search or often I get no result at all.

Just as an example.
I searched for:
"Hotel Linger
Naunweg 21
I-39057 Girlan an der Weinstraße"
It finds nothing.

Now I have a tasker task to use Google Geocoding Api to search for the content in clipboard. Here it finds the location without any problem.
I even have not to deal with multiple useless result. At least for me it finds almost always what I was looking for.

I guess there were special request which over complicates the search algorithmen in Locus. Maybe it's a good idea to add a "simple search" toggle to just use the normal google/bing/.... approach.

@CabrioTourer. I have written a Tasker task, which uses OSM Nominatim search because the API is open. I was thinking about extending it with Google.

Did you need an API key for Google? Because creating one is a bit tough.

Yes you need a API key. As long as you already have a google account with a pay account it's not that complicate. I guess you have one bcs you have Locus.
Search on Youtube for a how to. There are many.

K thx, it may be easy, I already have a "directions" key.

Idea Preset:
1. at the end of the start process there is a question which preset should be used.
2. the last preset is loaded
3. a very specific preset is loaded
4. no preset is loaded and the normal settings are used. This should also be the default setting.

Why 1: For the user who changes very often between preset. When I start Locus I know exactly why and what I want to do (what to look at, what to test, hiking, MTB, Geocaching. So I am quickly at my preset and do not forget to set it.

Why 2: I do not know if this option is needed at all. If I did something different last time like this time, I have the wrong preset. If I always do the same thing, 3. is good too.

Why3: If I always do the same thing 90% of the time, then this preset is always loaded. And in the other 10% I just have to select another one in the main menu.

Why 4: This option is for new users. They don't know what preset is yet and it should be as simple and intuitive as possible in the beginning.

Quote from: Menion on July 25, 2022, 13:15:46
There is more options on how to improve Presets. I'm still playing in my mind with two
- remember state before applying preset and allow restoring the previous state (already used in the navigation!)
- change the whole concept that you will be always in one active! preset (profile) and will just switch between them

I'm just not sure if I want to spend quite a lot of time with the second option (that I like more) ...

@menion - although I am very happy with existing presets, I think the 2nd option is

• conceptually easier to understand
• so easier to document
• less error prone > less upset users, less support
• has inherent restore-previous-state mechanism

but agree with time involved.

conceptually Vertical Dilution of Precision (VDOP) is well described (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilution_of_precision_(navigation)) but after a bit of searching I couldn't find any method of obtaining within Android

Sorry for short OT

Quote from: tapio on July 25, 2022, 19:21:33
K thx, it may be easy, I already have a "directions" key.

Google is much better than nominatim. I compared it today.

Quote from: Menion on July 25, 2022, 13:15:46
There is more options on how to improve Presets. I'm still playing in my mind with two
- remember state before applying preset and allow restoring the previous state (already used in the navigation!)
- change the whole concept that you will be always in one active! preset (profile) and will just switch between them

I don't think the second option is a great idea: If implemented like that, every change of a setting *must* also change the active preset. That's definitely not what I want: If e.g. I change the map theme, I still want the original preset theme when I next activate it.
Only solution to this, I think would be that every change puts you in "unsaved preset", which you then can save, or discard when activating another preset. That would actually be cool, but I image it being rather complicated to implement.
Currently, I'm very happy with the existing system.

I am 100% fine on how presets work. Personally I have zero urge to have them kind of bidirectional - i. e. undo, or return to a previous state.

What I was thinking is "function bar in presets" needs another thought. They are complex to maintain. Let's say you have 5 presets which change function bars, but only 2 kinds of function bars. You always have to make function bar changes in any of those, which have the same style. Maybe function bars need an own preset system, just like dashboards. Or possibly make life easier, like copy/paste whole button setup to clipboard.

In all changes please don't forget the people controlling presets from outside, via intent.
No need for Locus asking which preset to use (one of Freischneiders ideas).

Changing the preset system fundamentally is probably... dangerous. IMO it's more important to rewrite the Lopoi system.

I also like the current situation. Perhaps it would be enough to add alerts for starting users when creating a new preset: "The current settings will change if you make changes to the preset settings settings. If you want to keep the settings, save it as a separate preset"

Quote from: tapio on July 26, 2022, 11:10:30What I was thinking is "function bar in presets" needs another thought. They are complex to maintain. Let's say you have 5 presets which change function bars, but only 2 kinds of function bars. You always have to make function bar changes in any of those, which have the same style. Maybe function bars need an own preset system, just like dashboards. Or possibly make life easier, like copy/paste whole button setup to clipboard.

+1

While I'm dreaming: ;)
Presets for track styles.
For me, track styles don't map 1:1 to folders. In fact, they usually don't map at all. It would be more like
- folder "Holiday 2022"
- different styles for "Biking", "Hiking", "Road Trip", etc.
Right now, I have to keep my own list of track style parameters for different activities.

Hi guys, thanks for the nice discussion regards presets. I'll have to read it carefully and let you know in the new topic related to the new 4.11 version here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8046.0).

It was long two months. Some vacations on our side (hope you all had some too), but mainly work on support for LoPoints photos (Marek) and many smaller improvements and fixes (myself).

Hope you find the new versions useful. Well, I'm sure you did because as usual, many of the changes were initiated by you   :). Thanks again and enjoy a (little too much) sunny days.