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Title: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: ohgood on January 08, 2022, 12:11:16
How the heck are we supposed to copy files like kmz into locus now?

If it's going to be this broken it's time for me to abandon Android and just go to iOS !
 
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 08, 2022, 12:41:21
1) iOS is the origin of the ideology to put users into a velvet coated prison, hence mind your steps
2) LM 4 has all files access privilege, so you are not forced to move Locus base folder to any (int/ext) private folder
3) for LM Pro there is an AFA version on Google Drive - see 2)
4) you can use file managers like x-plore who have AFA privilege to populate int SD private folders (re. ext SD private folders, Google screwed up the implementation - you can handle folders, but not files to/from those places. And Locus base folder on ext SD private structure is not a good idea anyway.)
5) independent from above and app privileges you can always connect your device to a PC or laptop and copy files also to the private folders
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: balloni55 on January 08, 2022, 12:41:50
it depend in which folder on intern or externSD you want to copy the kmz

working on internalSD is  X-plore or TotalComander
ond extSD try USB>PC or plug your extSD-Card direct into PC

Wolfgang

Uuups Michael was faster ;)
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: ohgood on January 09, 2022, 01:09:54
1) iOS is the origin of the ideology to put users into a velvet coated prison, hence mind your steps
2) LM 4 has all files access privilege, so you are not forced to move Locus base folder to any (int/ext) private folder
3) for LM Pro there is an AFA version on Google Drive - see 2)
4) you can use file managers like x-plore who have AFA privilege to populate int SD private folders (re. ext SD private folders, Google screwed up the implementation - you can handle folders, but not files to/from those places. And Locus base folder on ext SD private structure is not a good idea anyway.)
5) independent from above and app privileges you can always connect your device to a PC or laptop and copy files also to the private folders

1 agreed 100% !!!, imagine my frustration in realizing that Android is now just as bad as iOS... that's where I am right now

2 I have no idea what moving base folder would do here... I'm trying to copy old map_items into new locus in Android 11 devices, and failing

3  what is afa ? where's the link to this version of locus ?

4 I've tried Google files, vanilla for manager, total commander, they all fail...  can't even see the mention/.. directories let alone copy anything

5  the entire point of using smartphones is so I never have to plug into a computer.... I used to literally install the app and copy my database to a friend's phone in the middle of nowhere.... now that functionality is broken it's it requires doing stuff the old (gah!!!!) Garmin way with cords and laptops and grrrrdd
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 09, 2022, 08:03:33
1) not - yet - as crazy as iOS - you can do a lot with the right tools. Pls. install x-plore as a start.
2) which version of LM are you using? 4 or Pro?
3) AFA means all files accessible. x-plore has that, LM4 as well (for now)
4) pls. tell the LM storage setup: settings-misc--default directories. Main directory and thevsub-folders. Once we understand your setup we can advise.
5) x-plore can handle everything, except writing files to EXT SD private folders. Only for the latter you'd need the PC based escape
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: ohgood on January 09, 2022, 15:31:04
1) not - yet - as crazy as iOS - you can do a lot with the right tools. Pls. install x-plore as a start.
2) which version of LM are you using? 4 or Pro?
3) AFA means all files accessible. x-plore has that, LM4 as well (for now)
4) pls. tell the LM storage setup: settings-misc--default directories. Main directory and thevsub-folders. Once we understand your setup we can advise.
5) x-plore can handle everything, except writing files to EXT SD private folders. Only for the latter you'd need the PC based escape

1 did it!
2 pro
3 excellent, thank you
4 default setup for Android 11 fresh install
5 excellent, they worked !

now, how do I send you and locus devs a 6 pack ?
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 09, 2022, 16:21:07
Glad it worked! Enjoy.

Re. 6-pack - I'll take the intent for the deed :-) TXs
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: bongo on January 11, 2022, 14:48:20
i installed x-plore, but i can see only the internal flash (and a root folder of the same size, which is not accessible), but not the external sd card.
do i need to do any configuration to get access to the sd card (it does not even show up)
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 11, 2022, 21:33:24
Do you have Solid Explorer installed, too? Only to compare.
Because what you describe is really weird.
Because seeing the root level on an EXT SD is not dependent on permissions, specials feature or alike.
It simply has to be there.
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: SonnyS on January 12, 2022, 14:26:57
I currently have File Commander and Locus Pro on my DFP2. Will that work in place of x-plore ?

Thanks

Sent from my E6910 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 12, 2022, 15:44:23
Those that have the permission MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE can handle ALL of INT SD, and all OUTSIDE private folders on EXT SD.
Subtle differences, though, with x-plore seeming most potent.

In the end you might check for above permission; if there, just try.
If not there, do expect nothing re. private folders.

Good luck and cheers
Michael
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: sbouju on January 15, 2022, 11:40:18
I used to handle some Locus personal files (*) with a file utility or with Dropbox/DropSync, especially for backing them up, restoring them, or even exchanging them with a second smartphone.
Now, probably due to the Android (v11) and/or Locus (v4) upgrade, I can't find the path to these files anymore. What is the remedy?

(*) as points and tracks, icons, cursors, dashboards...
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 15, 2022, 12:49:11
/Android/data/menion.android.locus*
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: sbouju on January 15, 2022, 16:07:57
Thank you, it seems to be OK now  :)

As I can already sync points and tracks in Locus web, now, may be a syncing of some other little personnal things would be fine...?  ;)
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: sbouju on January 17, 2022, 10:03:17
Thank you, it seems to be OK now  :)

Finally no.

The above path "/Android/data/menion.android.locus*" let me find and see the files I want to deal with, but I cannot handle them with my very standard tools.
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 17, 2022, 11:12:13
I hope this Locus base private folder is on INT SD.
Because then x-plore can read and write at your will.
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: sbouju on January 17, 2022, 12:57:51
I hope this Locus base private folder is on INT SD.
Because then x-plore can read and write at your will.
I don't really understand these tricky concepts, as an end user of Android OS and apps basically happy like that! ::)
Anyway, I previously had a look at the X-Plore tool, but I have been basically afraid of the UI :o
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 17, 2022, 15:08:21
What's the issue with the UI?
Two panes you can switch by swipe, select a file or folder and do something with it.
You can play with it with some copied data, so nothing breaks and you learn.
Then enjoy the power.
I agree that should not be needed for normal app users. But the transition to cope with those new Android 11 limitations is painful. For the creators as well as for the users with the fallout of it.
Once Menion properly deals with /Android/media folders on that upper level, thing will become much easier, also in the interaction between Apps that need the maps and SRTM mass data, and should not be forced to duplicate it.
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: sbouju on January 17, 2022, 17:24:00
What's the issue with the UI?
The feeling of having a bazooka to kill a mosquito, or something like that... But I shall give it another try !
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 17, 2022, 17:30:56
If your tool does not hit the mosquito - what are your alternate options ;-) ?
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: sbouju on January 18, 2022, 17:22:09
Trying X-Plore again, but it does not permit me to paste any file in the menion* directory spoken above...

May be a more conventional method exists in order to use previously made "my_icons.zip" file in the new version of Locus Map?
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 18, 2022, 20:45:53
On EXT SD even x-plore cannot write; on INT SD it can. You have to give permission - once.

Alternatively you can USB connect to a PC - all files accessible.
Title: Re: Android 11 copy filled???
Post by: sbouju on January 19, 2022, 17:36:01
Alternatively you can USB connect to a PC - all files accessible.

Yes, I just achieved to do so. Not really easy to have this connection working, but it is OK now, thanks!  :)