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Development => Android versions => Locus Classic (LM Free, LM Pro) => Topic started by: Menion on March 18, 2021, 20:33:07

Title: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on March 18, 2021, 20:33:07
New Locus Map Pro version

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Versions
17. 3. 2021 - Locus 3.51.0

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on March 18, 2021, 20:48:22
Quote from: Menion on March 18, 2021, 20:33:07
New Locus Map Pro version
Versions
17. 3. 2021 - Locus 3.51.1
V 3.51.0
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on March 18, 2021, 21:00:41
Maybe copy&paste problem, maybe looking too far to the future  :). Thanks!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: slarti76 on March 19, 2021, 16:25:48
From last thread:
Quote from: Menion
@slarti76
are you sure that it always download again first 10k tiles? Because the app does not remember when downloading started. Every tile! has its own timestamp when it was downloaded, so this really should not happen. It is possible that download starts from 0%, but it should skip already downloaded tiles really quickly.
Well, it was around 35K tiles, and Google allows 10K/day. Highest level was 14, and after the first day it never got even to 50% of L14. I broke it off after 6 or 7 days. So there is definitely something wrong. I know about the skipping, but that didn't happen here.
My explanation was just an idea, but what you write still fits: Each tile has a timestamp, and the settings for the download say "replace all tiles older than 0 days". So if you download a tile today and then restart the download tomorror, it will look at the timestamp and reload the tile (at least if the current time is also later, depending on that some tiles may be skipped which would explain some differences in how far the download gets). Obviously, you remember which level we were in last, so the lower levels don't get started again.
Should be easy to reproduce ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on March 20, 2021, 13:17:39
Ah, older than 0 days!! Sorry, I missed this important parameter!

Well, then this is a problem :). Can't you just use some longer time? Just kidding. Oki, makes sense. I've just change whole behavior of "Overwrite older" tiles. So in next version, next download, will at first start compute exact time of this "older", and this time will be used even next days when download will continue. Hope I made my change correctly ::)

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: CabrioTourer42 on March 20, 2021, 15:12:41
Too be true I didn't follow the discussions the last times so maybe I missed something. I tried to search for the problem but couldn't find something. Maybe because I had problems to select a good phrase to search for. :(

While driving without navigation the Screen are no longer locked to the GPS Position. The setting (guessed english translation) "Map lock on GPS position" in settings are enabled as allways for me.
I assume that's a change in one of the latest versions.
I couldn't find a way to make it work which was bad because I was exploring a new area.
What's the steps to get the lock back?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: john_percy on April 10, 2021, 13:01:33
3.51.3
LMP Release Notes on first run after update mention Silver twice, which is not relevant for Classic (I think). Also in About/Release Notes, from where I took these screen shots.




Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on April 10, 2021, 20:39:46
@CabrioTourer42
I've somehow missed your and 0709 posts here, sorry.
Is centering still not working? Isn't simply on the screen visible a small popup with a selected track or point? This may prevent app from centering to your GPS location.

@0709
hmm, unexpected when skipped point seems to be a via-point. May you please provide me NMEA and computed route? I'll check it, thanks.

@john_percy
stupid copy & paste issue. Will have to be more careful, thanks!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Sersus on April 23, 2021, 11:28:55
Version 3.51.3

1. I make a POI with an attached photo. Automatically the current photo is being used for an icon on the map.
2. Then I export a current folder with POIs with the option "Including descriptions & attachments".
3. The resulting "doc.kml" inside a .kmz now contains ugly and extremely long <Style id=""> and <Icon><href> is leading to nowhere because the resulting .kmz file does'n contain that icon in its "files" folder.
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I've attached an example doc.kml.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on May 24, 2021, 14:56:57
Hello @Sersus, thanks for the bug report. The issue will be fixed in the next Locus Map version!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: nIgel on October 20, 2021, 16:08:03
Hopefully writing in the right topic.
Locus Pro 3.55.1
Error with recorded track shown on Mapscreen:
Recorded track is shown red on Mapscreen, that is how it is supposed to be.
After loosing GPS in tunnel track is not shown further on Mapscreen. Had to stop recording and start again to show it:
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on October 21, 2021, 11:39:12
Hi, interesting.
I would blame the recording parameters of the recording profile you use. May you please post a screenshot of the recording parameters?
Something like this (https://docs.locusmap.app/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=manual:user_guide:tracks:recording:trackrecset2.png).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: nIgel on October 21, 2021, 12:18:36
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll do my best:
PS: Could it be that I overflowed the system while tracking with pedestrian settings while driving a car?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on October 21, 2021, 14:05:46
You have seem to set minimal accuracy to 20m. This value is really strict and depends on your device. But in most cases, mainly in the forest and city areas, this value is too low. Suggest changing it to at least 50 m to be safe .. give it a try.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: nIgel on October 21, 2021, 15:10:48
The problem was not, that it didn't record. It did record, just didn't show it on the map. I waited quite some time after the tunnel and had a solid fix. Don't think changing that value will solve it but I'll try.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: nIgel on October 24, 2021, 18:19:48
Sorry for this late feedback I normally don't pass the tunnel where the error happend.

Second test today revealed problem persists even with changes in the accuracy but I saw that I forgot to mention that Geocaching4Locus was running with GC Live-map. Zooming in and out brought the red track line back on the screen. While returning I tried the car profile and no track line appeared on the map. So I changed the car profile to "show only part of the track on the map" to optimize the performance and the track showed up on the map and no disappearing of it after passing the tunnel.
So I guess that means it is a performance problem of my phone.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on October 25, 2021, 06:37:44
Hi, hmm performance problem should not cause this. What about the style of your track? Are you using some simple coloring (red) line, nothing more? Just asking if there isn't some error on the background.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: nIgel on October 25, 2021, 09:26:48
Nothing fancy, just a simple red line.

... but GC Livemap didn't update the screen with new caches too. Only after the mentioned zoom in zoom out action. Though cursor and map did update.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on October 27, 2021, 22:10:25
Hi, I was thinking about what may cause this problem and to be true, I have absolutely no idea. If you are able to easily simulate it, only what comes to my mind is to create a log right after this problem appears, by this method: http://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php?id=manual:faq:how_to_create_debug_log . Thanks,
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: nIgel on October 28, 2021, 13:12:28
Ok, thanks for that.
Since I have root I did install SysLog (https://github.com/Tortel/SysLog) now and hope to remember to use it, if the problem appears again (the aformentioned tunnel is 100km far from home).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 18, 2021, 08:34:10
@Menion:
unfortunately, the current locus pro version no longer works under android 11....!
What can be done?

must all data that is otherwise stored externally (extSD) now only be stored internally?
that would not work at all in terms of storage space!

where are all the files like the oam maps, cursor data, brouter segments, themes, dashboards and the srtm data to be stored?

i am in despair - it really can't be that locuspro should no longer work...!!!!

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on December 18, 2021, 18:02:47
@Menion: with 3.56.3 the log activation does not work either (Rena's A52) but here the detail dialog does not show up. In the moment you tap the "disabled" to change the setting, the KEY_B_... message pops up in the middle, and the green deactivated message comes and goes.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 19, 2021, 10:48:26
running Android 11 with the latest OAM v5 maps + LocusPro (currently 3.56.3).

Saving option as I found and performed:

1.
In the Locus app, assign the root directory to:
internal/Android/data/menion.android.locus.pro/files/Locus

2.
Assign subdirectories in the Locus app to:
storage/1234-5678/Android/data/menion.locus.pro/files/Locus/...

externally on the SD card under the storage/1234-5678/Android/data/menion.android.locus.pro/files/locus - path are then:
at
../mapsvector -> themes / OAM map files
../maps -> OAM worldmap
../data/srtm -> srtm elevation files

- hope it now works like this (permanently).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: tramp20 on December 27, 2021, 13:34:31
@menion
since the latest LMP 3.56.4 and LM 4.5.6 free there are no satellite level bars visible.

Two wishes in the attached picture:
1 could you make the level bars a little bit higher?
2. without a fix the values for height and accuracy should not show a wrong value.

Thank you
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 27, 2021, 13:50:57
@menion
also: since the update to 3.56.4 under android 11, locus map pro runs extremely slowly;
further problems when calling up/selecting themes: the app crashes or stops!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on December 27, 2021, 14:05:19
Do you have mapsVector on ext SD? Then this is a known issue which cannot be overcome, EXCEPT you start to use ZIP themes.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 27, 2021, 14:19:04
themes are located on the external sd card.

until the latest update, it was no problem to call up the themes, e.g. elevate and elements with the oam v5 mapsl
the problem is recently with several users, also that everything builds up very very slowly...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on December 27, 2021, 14:25:43
Exactly, and this is why Menion built in support for ZIP themes :-)
From ZIP themes Locus builds an expanded structure on the fast int storage.
Expanded themes on ext SD with Google A11 SAF is a pretty bad idea.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 27, 2021, 14:36:25
Quote from: michaelbechtold on December 27, 2021, 14:25:43
Exactly, and this is why Menion built in support for ZIP themes :-)
From ZIP themes Locus builds an expanded structure on the fast int storage.
Expanded themes on ext SD with Google A11 SAF is a pretty bad idea.
Excuse me for asking - but I didn't understand:

Do I download the zip themes manually from openandromaps?
Where do I then save them on the external memory card?
How do I proceed?

Thank you very, very much!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: john_percy on December 27, 2021, 14:39:54
Download the zip file and put it in the _themes directory under mapsVector, or install directly to Locus from OAMaps for the Elevate theme.


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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 27, 2021, 14:51:10
thanks for the quick answer!

To be on the safe side - I save then the theme-zips internally ?) under:
internal/android/data/menion.android.locus.pro/files/locus/mapsVector/_themes ?

(but oam maps can be left on the external sd card?)

or
Quote from: john_percy on December 27, 2021, 14:39:54
Download the zip file and put it in the _themes directory under mapsVector, or install directly to Locus from OAMaps for the Elevate theme.


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where to save  mapsVector (with themes and oam maps) externaly?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: john_percy on December 27, 2021, 15:20:09
Installing Elevate directly from OAMaps now installs the zip file to the correct place. Beyond that, concerning the details of internal and external memory and A11, I simply don't know.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 27, 2021, 15:37:57
@john_percy
thanks - yes, it automatically saves where you have set the directory for mapsVector in the settings -> Set subdirectories.

However, the main problem is - and many users are asking themselves this very moment - where can I save mapsVector (with the themes + oam maps) externally on the sd card without causing the mentioned problems?

under my previous path:
storage/1234-5678/Android/data/menion.locus.pro/files/Locus/mapsVector.
the app no longer works properly at all...

@michaelbechtold
can you tell me how/ where exactly I have to set the subdirectories for mapsVector (and save the files of the oam maps and themes) on the external sd card so that the app doesn't crash all the time?

thank you very much!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on December 27, 2021, 20:00:39
If you go back to 3.55 (Sept. 2021), you are in control again - full access to non-private folders anywhere, INT and EXT. Not forever, but until Menion is in control of the situation - BEYOND private folders ...

If you want to stick with 3.56, see below:
- if you have enough space on INT SD, move the mapsVector back to INT SD (private folder), so e.g. x-plore can fully manage insta
- if you are happy to work via PC, you can forget sthe step above
- whereever the mapsVector is, empty the themes folder
- now test an OAM map with the internal default theme - it should display the map, however differently from Elevate look and feel
- if Locus crashes here, try another map, if that crashes, too, open a case in the help desk
- if Locus is still alive, install Elevate via OAM web page and check that there is the Elevate.zip in your mapsVector
- now switch the theme to Elevate or Elements
Curious how above will go ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: tramp20 on December 29, 2021, 07:32:45
@menion
why have LMP 3.56.4 and LM 4.5.6 free different access rights to data and media?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on December 29, 2021, 08:32:36
@tramp20
- satellite bars are visible. Just in your case, the quality of the signal is so bad, that bars are only thin lines
- height & accuracy > if these values are received from the GPS unit, they are displayed.

Permissions: long story discussed in LM4 topic anyway Google allowed Locus Map 4 to temporarily use "All files access" so it allows having directory in the internal memory root as before (we do not know for how long this exception will be valid, but at least it gives me some time). Unfortunately, Locus Map Pro request was twice denied. I'll be generating LM Pro with this option to the public Google Drive for direct APK download (January). That's the best I may do for now.

@bezel
I'm not sure what exactly is the problem now. App in the latest version is still slow? "mapsVector" directory on the SD card should not cause any huge performance issues in the latest public version. Anyway steps described by @michaelbechtold are precise so give it a try.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: tramp20 on December 29, 2021, 09:09:14
Quote from: Menion on December 29, 2021, 08:32:36
@tramp20
- satellite bars are visible. Just in your case, the quality of the signal is so bad, that bars are only thin lines
- height & accuracy > if these values are received from the GPS unit, they are displayed.

As you can see in my screenshot I have a perfect fix (9/11 satellites, accuracy is 4 m).
All previous LM versions did show the bars and I have this little problem on all of my phones now.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on December 29, 2021, 09:59:51
I also noticed that the indicators are not displayed in the last version. He does not help the phone reboot, I'm sure previously appeared. But it does not affect the route record, so I did not. But i'm using a version 4x
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on December 29, 2021, 10:03:18
Oki, thanks guys, I'm going to look at it ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 29, 2021, 11:13:45
@menion
I have tried everything, but the problem persists!

1. since the update to 3.56.4 Locusmap Pro is extremely slow when building maps (if the maps are on the external SD card).

2. the app stops or crashes when the themes selection (e.g. elevate or elements for the v5 OAM maps) is called!!!
Tried different storage paths on the external SD card for mapsVector (with the OAM maps + themes), e.g.
storage/1234-5678/Android/data/menion.locus.pro/files/Locus/mapsVector
- without success!

menion, not only me, but many others too are really getting desperate and are annoyed!
It can't be that this should mean the end of LocusPro for many of us !
You only have to look at the various cycling forums - people have really had enough of LocusPro since the update and the resulting errors when calling up the themes/maps and urgently want a solution

Please find a solution! I'll appreciate your help.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on December 29, 2021, 11:20:44
@bezel
1. if the rendering of the map itself is slow, then it has to be a problem with the slow SD card! Really suggest using internal memory if possible.

2. crash when selecting theme was detected and will be fixed in today bug-fix version

Desperate and annoyed > I and others in the team fully understand. Imagine our situation. 8 people depending on the quality of the product. So it is in our highest interest to have a fully working and reliable app. If there are really mainly these two issues, they are solvable I believe.

Btw. You may also try to add map to the /xxxx-xxxx/Android/media/menion.android.locus.pro/mapsVector directory. There app has full access as well as you as a user. Anyway this is solution "in testing" and not officially documented yet.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 29, 2021, 11:58:34
@menion
thank you for taking care of the problem with the themes (crashing or stopping the app)!
It can't be the SD card - before the Android11 and 3.56.4 update everything ran smoothly and quickly...

Thank you and the whole team if you can fix the bug!
For many users Locus is (was...) the most important (and so far...) best navigation app.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on December 29, 2021, 12:13:02
Oki, understand .. so

1. I'll be publishing a new version today, so give it a try. At least themes should work correctly now
2. try placing a single vector map to the mentioned /Android/media directory with this new version. Is there a difference if placed on the SD card or internal memory?
3. if so, what exactly means "slower"? Does it take significantly more time when you move with the map, till all tiles load? If so and you will be willing to spend some time with testing, we may iterate it with few testing versions to find out read reason for this. This anyway a little later, firstly new version. Thanks for the patience.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 29, 2021, 13:41:58
@menion
I have tried moving the oam-map to the "media" directory on the external card - the card structure is slightly better, BUT:
the 'themes' also moved there cannot be called.

This is probably because the subdirectory is still set to the data folder
storage/xxxx-xxxx/Android/data/menion.android.locus.pro/files/Locus/mapsVector,
and not to the media folder
storage/xxxx-xxxx/Android/media/menion.android.locus.pro/mapsVector
- problem is there, under:
Settings -> Miscellaneous -> Default directories -> Set own subdirectories -> Assign 'mapsVector/' directory,
it is not possible to change this private directory/ folder!
See screenshot.

The private folder path cannot be changed anymore, what might be the reason for this?


Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on December 29, 2021, 13:46:53
Quotethe 'themes' also moved there cannot be called.
confirm
theme is only available to select if stored in "data" path
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on December 29, 2021, 13:54:18
Sure, this is how this feature is done. Content of the "media" directory is used similar to old "external maps". So independent directory where may be placed user-defined maps, nothing more.

The reason I wrote about this directory was to test the performance of the vector maps you complained about.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on December 29, 2021, 14:00:14

for me the very slow map build only occurs when unzipped themes are in the theme folder of the extSD
if there are only zipped themes, the map build runs as usual smoothly
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 29, 2021, 14:23:30
Quote from: balloni55 on December 29, 2021, 13:46:53
Quotethe 'themes' also moved there cannot be called.
confirm
theme is only available to select if stored in "data" path
Yes - I also put the themes in the data path - they are displayed, but then the old problem starts again:
the app crashes or stops (see screenshot).

A selection is not possible this way

Quote from: Menion on December 29, 2021, 13:54:18
Sure, this is how this feature is done. Content of the "media" directory is used similar to old "external maps". So independent directory where may be placed user-defined maps, nothing more.

The reason I wrote about this directory was to test the performance of the vector maps you complained about.
@menion
Thanks for the tip! Map construction (maps in the media folder) is now much faster.

The main and "old" problem with the themes (app crashes) still exists (see screenshot)...


Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on December 29, 2021, 14:30:21
@bezel
are you sure you have no unzipped theme in the used theme folder ?!
for me this window appeared as i have had unzipped themes in this folder

and your screenshot, what happen if you click on "warten" ?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 29, 2021, 14:50:57
@balloni55
I have installed the themes directly from openadromaps (see screenshot).

When I click on "wait" ("warten") - nothing happens for a very long, long time, at some point I can set an option again, but then the app pauses again ("wait"/"warten") or crashes completely,
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on December 29, 2021, 14:59:22
i think thats your problem, you download and install the unzippen theme
delete this theme on extSD data..._themes
and download the zip version, one below in your screenshot
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 29, 2021, 15:01:06
Quote from: bezel on December 29, 2021, 14:50:57
@balloni55
I have installed the themes directly from openadromaps (see screenshot).

When I click on "wait" ("warten") - nothing happens for a very long, long time, at some point I can set an option again, but then the app pauses again ("wait"/"warten") or crashes completely,
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 29, 2021, 16:37:14
@menion
I'm sorry, but even after the latest update to 3.56.5, the selection of themes (when stored on the external memory card) does not work - Locusmap Pro still stops or crashes!
It is also not a "rare crash when selecting vector map themes" - it happens to many users.

(also: private folders cannot be assigned differently yet - the private folder path cannot be changed anymore)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on December 29, 2021, 20:00:34
So the maps in the "SD card/Android/media" are really noticeably faster than maps in the "SD card/Android/data/..."?? Unbelievable  :D. Will have to look at it closer.

@bezel
I probably see your crash. Seems that one zipped theme is corrupted. May you please pack and share with me your "_themes" directory? Thanks.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on December 29, 2021, 21:24:27
The display of the GPS signal is fixed in the new version 4.5.7. It even looks like it appears much more satellites.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on December 30, 2021, 09:21:22
Quote from: Menion on December 29, 2021, 20:00:34
So the maps in the "SD card/Android/media" are really noticeably faster than maps in the "SD card/Android/data/..."?? Unbelievable  :D. Will have to look at it closer.

@bezel
I probably see your crash. Seems that one zipped theme is corrupted. May you please pack and share with me your "_themes" directory? Thanks.
@menion
1.
In fact, as I have now discovered after several test runs, the map layout (when externally stored in the media folder) is not significantly faster than otherwise (stored in the data folder).
Only if the maps are stored internally, the maps assembly is very, very fast.

2.
I think the OAM themes are OK, they were downloaded recently - and if both OAM maps and themes are in the internal memory, everything works fine.
(I have send to you via PN the link with the data because the attachement is larger than 2048KB...)

3.
a rather complicated procedure results in the app not crashing when the vector themes are called up:

a) under Settings:
Set subdirectory for 'mapsVector' to "App default setting"; this means internal/directory in the main directory of the app!")

b)but OAM maps have to be stored on the external memory card in the media folder
storage/1234-5678/Android/data/menion.locus.pro/files/Locus/mapsVector
(the "_themes" folder is empty!!)

c) !!! OAM themes (Elevate/Elements) are then stored internally (!) under
Android/data/menion.locus.pro/files/Locus/mapsVector/_themes

-> the themes can be called, selected and set without the app stopping or crashing.

It works like this, but it is very, very complicated, because different data is now distributed in different places - not very user-friendly. I also don't think that this is acceptable to many...

4.
Why is it no longer possible to assign your own directory under "Settings-Miscellaneous-Standard directories-Specify your own subdirectories-Assign directory" (see screenshot)?
You can't change the path for the private folder on the SD card at all!

Thanks for your help!

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: john_percy on December 30, 2021, 10:14:43
I changed my mapsVector directory from the default to the media one to test this out and found no special change in speed. I do however have the external and internal memory unified, or whatever Google calls it.
I decided to revert to the default directory and did so on both Locus Pro and Locus 4, allowing Locus to copy and delete files. All appeared to work well for Locus Pro but was surprisingly quick. After doing the same operation on Locus 4 I was left with no vector maps and no themes.
Not happy.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: AbdullahOSM on January 02, 2022, 20:58:07
We are in Saudi Arabia and use unpaved roads a lot and highway=track, and the existing BRouter profile doesn't route via highway=track, so I made a custom BRouter profile, but it didn't show up on my LM Pro 3.56.5 although I tried to put it here:
Android/data/menion.android.locus.pro/files/Locus/router/profiles2
And:
Android/data/menion.android.locus.pro/files/Locus/data/brouter/profiles2
And:
Android/data/menion.android.locus.pro/files/Locus/data/router/profiles2
It did not appear inside the application. Please help me solve the problem or modify the basic profile to include the roads on the highway=track tag by modifying the cars profile and adding this line:
switch highway=track 1
At line 65 approx

Thank you and best regards
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: 0709 on January 03, 2022, 11:36:25
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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on January 03, 2022, 12:04:02
@Žajdlík Josef
hope that skyplot screen is OK in the latest version

@bezel
long post - I believe we have solved many problems over PM, thanks.

@john_percy
sorry, but hard to help here for me ...

@AbdullahOSM
thanks @0709, Believe that video helps.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 03, 2022, 12:27:29
Hello John,
once you allow migration to a private folder, first one wins. Second one inherits empty places.

As LM4 has the full access privilege, it might be able to catch the maps from private LMP. But that I kind of doubt. That's the hour of /Android/media (without app specific extension, maybe, LM4 catches all from top level, LMP does not, needs private extension - and a fix).
That is the location to share "media" between apps.


Quote from: john_percy on December 30, 2021, 10:14:43
I changed my mapsVector directory from the default to the media one to test this out and found no special change in speed. I do however have the external and internal memory unified, or whatever Google calls it.
I decided to revert to the default directory and did so on both Locus Pro and Locus 4, allowing Locus to copy and delete files. All appeared to work well for Locus Pro but was surprisingly quick. After doing the same operation on Locus 4 I was left with no vector maps and no themes.
Not happy.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: john_percy on January 03, 2022, 12:42:55
@Menion @michaelbechtold
In my case the error (which is really a Locus v4 one) was on Locus itself responding to me changing the chosen directory for vector maps by attempting to copy then delete my maps from a "default" directory - which was derived from a shared base directory on internal storage - to my chosen directory in the media folder. Locus Pro did this absolutely fine. I then repeated the process in Locus v4 which simply deleted all the maps. *If there was some access error, Locus ought to have warned me and stopped.*
I have since manually copied the maps to the media folder and added the folder in map manager, rather than by setting custom folders.



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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: AbdullahOSM on January 03, 2022, 13:30:14
@0709 @Menion Thank you very much. I tried the method and it didn't work at first until I discovered the reason, which was that the default directories were on the external memory, I don't know why it was there and I changed it to the internal memory in the application's folder and the private profile appeared and the problem was solved, thank you very much
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 03, 2022, 14:03:45
Wow, John, that's brutal!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on January 03, 2022, 18:20:27
@menion
unfortunately I did not receive a PM from you...

Locusmap Pro only works as far as the selection of themes is concerned, as I found out after hours of trying (see my earlier post/ reply#55).

The problem with the themes under Android 11 has not yet been solved, and there is still no option to select/individually define the private folder "custom selection" when assigning the subdirectories (settings).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on January 17, 2022, 09:17:10
@menion
weeks ago I told you about the problem with the vector themes (for example Elevate) of Locus Pro under Android 11 - unfortunately nothing has happened yet, the problem still exists.
menion, so far you have always been helpful and have tried to solve problems with the app in the short term - in this case nothing has happened, why?

- themes were sent to you for checking, no reaction (I had sent you a PM with the link to the files)
- no update of Locus Pro, no solution regarding the storage location and the necessary path for the OAM themes.

Is this the "end" of Locus Pro?
No more support?
Are bugs no longer fixed?
What about the problem described?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 05, 2022, 11:08:00
Hello Menion
please create a new title here "version 3.59.+"
and BTW in history you wrote renamed to "Locus Map 3 Classic" but the app itselfe is named "Locus Map Classic"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on April 05, 2022, 12:14:48
Hi balloni,
I'm not sure that specific topics per every version are needed for Locus Map Classic. I'll rename it to "latest". 66 posts per year = hmm, one topic will be enough.

And naming. The official name is Locus Map Classic for now. To make it more clear, we will in some places use Locus Map 3 Classic and Locus Map 4.

And I see I miss the response to @bezel, sorry.

Did you tried the latest 3.59 version? Does it work with this version? I see you send me PM 30. 12. Sorry, I probably read it quickly and forget to create a "todo task". Anyway, no excuses, my bad. Let me know if there is still any problem with latest app, thanks.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 01, 2022, 13:18:36
Hello menion
V 3.60
when I start a track recording for the first time after starting Locus Classic, this popup appears once, no matter if I agree or disagree the track recording works.
If I stop this recording and start a new one and also at every further start of a track recording the blue popup appears. However, Locus has access and the recording works without any problems.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on May 09, 2022, 08:38:19
If I remember correctly, this warning should appear in case

- app is not excluded from the battery optimization, or
- app does not have "background location" permission

Are you sure it has both items correctly enabled?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 09, 2022, 13:03:22
QuoteAre you sure it has both items correctly enabled?
yes, classic is excludet from battery optimation and "background location" is allowed
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on May 10, 2022, 14:28:26
Thanks for checking it.
Really interesting. I'm looking into code when this blue dialog may appear and the only case is really only when you (user) decline using of fine or background location for the app.

Hard to help balloni here. Maybe try to remove location permission for the Classic version and let the app ask you to allow it again after start...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 10, 2022, 19:07:32
Hello menion,
now i found the reason of this popups
if i allow location access all the time, no popup appeares
if i allow location access only while using locus these popup appeare :-[
but I don't understand this behavior, because locus is running when I start a recording.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on May 11, 2022, 08:55:07
Fact that the app is running correctly is interesting and I have no explanation for it. Anyway Locus Map forces to enable "All the time" location access to keep recording running correctly.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: john_percy on July 24, 2022, 00:11:19
Something in Quick Bookmarks is now broken. Several of my custom bookmarks no longer work, which I could understand but some of the available preset bookmarks have also stopped working.
For example, Open Street Map and Google Maps (toast illustrated).

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Tapio on July 24, 2022, 11:59:54
Lovely garden at that position.
Unlikely, just an idea. Maybe something after Locus that cannot handle the padded leading zeroes? In the pure decimal latlon format they shouldn't be there. For LM4 I asked Menion to remove them from the variables.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on July 25, 2022, 09:28:40
Hmm, interesting. All seems to work correctly for me. We will be publishing a new version this week, so give it a try and let me know if there still be this issue. I'll then invest more time into it, thanks.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: john_percy on July 25, 2022, 16:30:47
Solved by clearing the "Open by default" settings for Locus. It seems to offer to open loads of URLs it can't actually handle.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: baegas on August 07, 2022, 16:29:54
LM pro v3.62 can't see paired bluetooth in GPS device in bluetooth manager so it can't find external bluetooth GPS
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on August 07, 2022, 16:36:12
Quote from: baegas on August 07, 2022, 16:29:54
LM pro v3.62 can't see paired bluetooth in GPS device in bluetooth manager so it can't find external bluetooth GPS
similar
https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/29120-v3-62-0-how-to-connect-to-a-bluetooth-gnss
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on August 09, 2022, 15:02:02
Hi guys, sorry for this, stupid issue. Bug-fix version is now planned for Monday/Tuesday of next week.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Bernard P. on December 05, 2022, 19:45:48
Hello,

With android 13 which is being deployed, access to the /android/data directory is more and more complicated (impossible, it was possible with Total Commander, but it no longer works....), and it becomes problematic to read and write files there (for example, to recover the NMEA traces).
Would it be possible to move the directories used by Locus Map into /Android/media, which remains more easily accessible to it?

Best regards,
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on December 05, 2022, 20:36:01
This whole SAF is insanity on steroids - IF Google does not employ a reasonable exception policy. All geo apps are valid candidates, by design. But the Google support folks that dealt with Locus e.g. are perfect candidates to be fully substituted by an Excel macro. Same outcome, much cheaper.
Enough ranting ...

Have you tried x-plore? Michal (its developer) has had a good grip on /Android/data access in the past, and just released a new version that claims access to /Android/data for Android 13 (my devices are not yet there, hence I cannot test myself).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Bernard P. on December 06, 2022, 10:25:51
Yes, I tried X-Plore, it works with /Android/data in internal storage, but not with the SD card.
I tried with the last beta version of Total Commander, same problem, works with internal storage, not with SD card. And this will change again with Android 14, sure !

So my question... it seems that using /Android/media is the only permanent solution.

Best regards,
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on May 25, 2023, 16:09:57
Combination Locus Classic (pro) 3.68.1 and Android 12:

offline navigation with Brouter (current version) does not work!
If you want to plan a route with Brouter in Locus it crashes!

What is the reason?
How to work around the problems?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on May 25, 2023, 19:59:41
Hi bezel,
let's continue in the topic you've created: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8467.0;topicseen#msg71929.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: bezel on June 14, 2023, 10:12:28
Quote from: bezel on May 25, 2023, 16:09:57Combination Locus Classic (pro) 3.68.1 and Android 12:

offline navigation with Brouter (current version) does not work!
If you want to plan a route with Brouter in Locus it crashes!

What is the reason?
How to work around the problems?

problem solved:
see here -> https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8467.msg72197#msg72197 (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8467.msg72197#msg72197)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: hans.castorp on August 21, 2023, 23:19:59
I see a substantially higher battery drain since (I think) 3.69 on Android 8.1

Even when I "close" LM 3 Pro, it still shows up in the app battery usage with a substantial percentage after some hours. With "closing" I mean I dragging the app out of the list of apps. I know this isn't really closing the app, but until 3.68 this was enough to make LM not use battery any longer. The battery consumption is "consistent" with actively using LM, so it seems before 3.69, "closing" it did something different.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on September 27, 2023, 21:41:00
V 3.70.0 AFA
click  Dynamic Content > Additional layers

FC
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: Menion on September 29, 2023, 08:15:08
@balloni55
thanks for the bug report, but maybe two hours later I immediately released the 3.70.1 version where this problem should be solved! Does it work now?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.51.+ ( 17. 3. 2021 )
Post by: balloni55 on September 29, 2023, 08:31:36
Hello menion
thanks, problem solved