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Title: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on April 17, 2019, 10:14:43
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Hello!

on behalf of WearSoft and with cooperation with Locus Map team, I want to introduce you new application which enables you to benefit from advanced features of Locus Map while using your Garmin device.

FEATURES
With Locus Map for Garmin you can
1) use it as main activity application which enables you:
-- display real-time data from Locus Map running on your smartphone in your Garmin:
---- maps incl. any overlays (no need for native map support of Garmin device!)
---- navigation
---- guidance
---- track recording
---- device status (battery, GPS.. )
-- record activities, provide their statistics and store them on Garmin Connect
-- see map stored on your Garmin device (on supported devices)
2) export routes from your smartphone to your Garmin to navigate them with other activity apps (on devices supporting navigation features)

QUICK SETUP & DEVICES COMPATIBILITY & USER GUIDE & FAQ & TROUBLESHOOTING
https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:add-ons:locusforgarmin

DIRECT DOWNLOAD
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.wearsoft.locus.addon.ciq

Please let us know what you think! I am here to answer all your questions.

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Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on April 24, 2019, 17:52:04
Hello, new version 0.9.0 now supports much wider range of Garmin devices and also adds screen with native Garmin maps if supported by device. 
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on May 02, 2019, 12:21:53
Too fast paid the full version with Lo Coins, none of my Garmin units being compatible :(

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: menion on May 02, 2019, 14:58:18
Good day sbojuju,
please give Jan information which device you own. As I know, some are planned this month.

If none of your devices will be planned, let me know and I'll, of course, refunds your purchase.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on May 10, 2019, 18:13:35
Hello all,

past week was busy. We released more versions during these days. But you can now enjoy (in version 1.1.0):

- much more supported devices (check it here: https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:add-ons:locusforgarmin#devices_compatibility)
- new disclaimer screen to advise how to see more data screens
- updated preview mode
- and lots of smaller fixes and layout improvements

Enjoy and if you spot some issue, don't hesitate to let me know!

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Papaluna on May 30, 2019, 13:24:13
Hello Jan,

reading the news about your app in my Locus Pro app on my smartphone, i was really excited about that improvement for my most preferred combination of device which i used for hiking trips.
Although i used dedicated gps devices during my bicycle + hiking trip in the past 15 years, since 2 years for hiking i prefer using LocusMap Pro on a Samsung Galaxy A5 2017 together with a Garmin Fenix 3 HR.
A more easy transfer of tracks from Locus to Fenix and the option to get navigation turn advices would be a helpful enhancement to this combination.

At the moment Fenix 3 HR doesn't seems to be supported.
How far are you with your considerations about app for Fenix 3HR ?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on May 30, 2019, 21:01:34
Hi Papaluna,

we would love to add support also for Fenix 3 devices, but unfortunately they don't have enough resources (memory) to run such complex app. Currently we are still trying to find if there is way how to bring to this devices  more than just already planned track import functionality. For this reason, I can't commit to any publish date yet.

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Papaluna on May 31, 2019, 17:22:28
Hi Jan,

many thanks for your reply.
Yes, i'm aware that the Fenix 3 series and some other device have limited storage (~24Mb).
Probably the only way might be to drop some functions.
But which ones!?
And it is a higher effort to maintain 2 version.
So i will wait, hoping you will find a solution.

kind regards
Gert
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Theo on June 08, 2019, 22:45:55
Just decided to buy a Garmin Forerunner 945 after I read that now, there is also Locus Maps support. :)

I really like the combination of Locus Maps and the GPS watch.
It also seems to work pretty solid thus far even though I wasn't yet able to test a lot.

That said, I already like to suggest two more features which would improve the binding a lot for me:

1. If I start recording from my phone, it won't record the heart rate data from the watch. It would be really awesome to have the watch heart rate data in the track record if there is no other heart-rate-device mounted.

2. If I start recording with the watch, my locus app on the smartphone won't start tracking (At least, it won't show the track recording screen). Would be cool if I a device-started recording would be in sync with the phone app.

Best regards
Theo

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on June 12, 2019, 10:46:18
Hi Theo,

Thanks for your suggestions.

1) You can do this even now if you enable heart rate sharing via your HR Widget on your watch. After that Locus Map can be paired via ANT+ to the watch via HR sensor configuration. Embed this feature directly to Garmin Locus Map application is not planned for near feature, but we will note it to our "possible future stuff" list. :)

2) Those two recordings are separated for reasons. There are also users who are using them together for purpose. But we are planning to make control of Locus Map recording from watch, which will basically do what you are requesting. So stay tuned for next versions!

Best Regards, Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on June 14, 2019, 09:58:15
Good day sbojuju,
please give Jan information which device you own. As I know, some are planned this month.

If none of your devices will be planned, let me know and I'll, of course, refunds your purchase.

Hi Menion, and sorry for the delay, I had not seen your message before...

And yes, none of my (too old) Garmin units is compatible with this app, but I had agreed it is my fault, as a demo mode was available before the purchase! ;)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on July 08, 2019, 11:38:03
Hi all,

for those who didn't yet find out hard way - Locus Map for Garmin for lots of users currently doesn't work as the Garmin app can't connect to Locus Map in smartphone. This is because of Garmin's unexpected change in Garmin Connect Mobile 4.20 resulting of fail of lots of Connect IQ apps which use local communication.

We are in touch with Garmin teams and they are working on solution, but we don't have confirmed day of fix from them yet. Unfortunately it is not possible to make workaround on our side, so until the resolution the only way how to make the app work again is to downgrade Garmin Connect to version 4.19. The installation file is available here:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/garmin/garmin-connect-mobile/garmin-connect-mobile-4-19-1-release/

We are sorry for inconvenience.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Kalti94 on August 18, 2019, 20:35:08
After solving the problems with Garmin.
Can you check why the Fenix 3 and Fenix 3 HR are not supported while the outdated Vivoactive HR and the new Fenix 5 are?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on August 19, 2019, 11:00:56
Hi Kalti, the reason is that Fenix 3 has even less memory then those two mentioned models and current version simply do not fit there. But currently we are working hard to make it work even on Fenix3 models - we hope to release public version compatible with your watch in next few weeks.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on August 26, 2019, 16:17:58
Hello, for all with Fenix 3 or Forerunner 230/235 watches - check out the newest version! :)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Papaluna on September 02, 2019, 23:12:20
Hello Jan,
i buied and installed premium version onto my Fenix 3HR.
I have made first navigations and didn't encountered any crash.
Pretty good.
Howsoever i'm missing really the optio to import tracks/routes.
Is it caused by the limited memory.?
Might it be an option to serve a second app with this function?
Kind regards
Gert
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on September 03, 2019, 10:52:11
Hi Gert,

thanks for feedback. Unfortunately Fenix 3 doesn't support to import track via Connect IQ app, because of missing functionalities in its old CIQ version. Honestly, I was also surprised by this limitation.

So unfortunately, it is not possible to provide this feature on this model.

Jan

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Papaluna on September 03, 2019, 22:07:47
Hi Jan,
1.
thats really strange.
I just exported a track from Locus.
I than opened the track with 'open with' option.
This offers me to choose Garmin Connect.
After this the track was imported into GC.
And from GC i can transfer the track to my Fenix 3.
So in general it is possible to transfer.
But it is really not user friendly.

2.no deviation alarm
Today navigating a track in Locus i could hear deviation alarm voice from Locus(fortunately i had forgotten to mute sounds otherwise i had missed this alarm) but doesn't see a hint on Fenix.
Bug or missing function?
Kind regards
Gert
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on September 04, 2019, 18:54:15
Hi Papaluna,

yes, this import works and I agree it is not really user-friendly. But I talked about importing via Connect IQ app like Locus Map. And that is not possible on Fenix 3 (unlike newer models which allows you to import track with two clicks via our app).

We have lots of planned features and some alert via Garmin before changing direction is one of them. The only question is how much we will be able to squeeze to already fully used memory limit on Fenix 3.

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on October 08, 2019, 15:58:04
Garmin fenix 6 is available now, Christmas is coming soon, Locus Map for Garmin is already paid, so... ;)

Concerning the fenix 6, can have the 6x version (with cartography) any interest over le 6 version (without cartography), for using it mainly with LocusMap, for that purpose? Not speaking here of its screen (a little larger,) nor the music related fonctions.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on October 08, 2019, 16:30:56
Hi Sbouju,

Fenix 6 is already supported, so why don't you install it? Broken maps on Fenix 6 will be fixed in next few days with new version.

EDIT: Oh, I didn't understand your answer at first.
Yes, with Fenix 6 PRO, you will have in Locus Map additional screen with Garmin maps. But with version 2.0.0, which will come in just few days, you will get another map screen in Locus Map regardless Fenix 6 model you choose to buy, so this might ease your decision. ;)

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on October 08, 2019, 19:11:03
Fenix 6 is already supported, so why don't you install it?
Good idea! I just need to make the (good!) choice for buying one of its numerous models, before this installation...  ;)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on October 13, 2019, 12:39:45
I have another question: on a fenix 6 (Connect IQ compatible) but which is not "Pro" or "X" (without any Garmin original cartography), can the watch show my smartphone LoMaps current map on its screen, as can do my Sony SmartWatch 3 ?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWDjzbVQf8w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWDjzbVQf8w)

Viewing the under picture and reading the documentation tends to answer "yes", but I want to be sure, because the purchase of a fenix 6X (with cartography) is something heavy, and not so really useful if one can do quite the same things with a "standard" fenix 6 or 6S *AND* "Locus Map for Garmin"  ;)

(https://services.garmin.com/appsLibraryBusinessServices_v0/rest/apps/f15dd655-e734-456e-b8f5-314d287df4a4/screenshots/d5b437f2-fba6-41ea-ab09-f8fd53646773)

On an other hand, seing what can already bring the WearOS compatibility of LocuMap, I can even consider buying a (cheaper...) Casio Pro Trek Smart WSD-F30 or WSD-F21 sport and connected watch, in place of a Garmin one...

(https://www.sport-passion.fr/pictures/test-materiel/casio-pro-trek-wsd-f30.jpg)
(https://www.watchuseek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Pro-Trek-WSD-F21-display-980x720.jpg)

And in the same spirit, another (full) Locus wrist solution under, tested, but abandoned, mainly for the poor GPS reception of the Jelly Pro  :(

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Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on October 25, 2019, 16:45:19
Hello,
I'm an old Locus user (and beta tester) and I'm happy to see the development of Locus for Garmin.
I have a Samsung A5 2017 and a Gramin Forerunner 235.
As you suggested some post ago I tried this case of use:
track recording and navigation on the phone that receives the heart rate data from the watch and it works.
I think it's not very user friendly but the problem is from Gramin side, I need to go on Garmin options start and stop transmission of heart data if I do not use it for too much time (the smartwatch not the heart  ;D ).

Are the fields of track recording's watch-face customizable?
Now I see TIME - DISTANCE - TIME FROM START - CURRENT ALTITUDE.
For my experience  TIME needs an own watch-face (as other Garmin apps and watch-faces do) and the 4 fields need to be customizable.
How about to choose the first 4 from the config of locus map recording panel ?
In this way every one can choose  the best that fits his habits.
In my case I'd like to see HEART RATE - POSITIVE GAIN instead of TIME and CURRENT ALTITUDE.

Just another suggestion: you did a good job with the data field on the DEVICES watch-face but it's graphically horrible.What about:

Phone ------ Watch
OFF     REC     OFF
OFF     GPS      FIX
62%     BAT      81%

With Phone column withe, middle coloured, Watch column black.
I also suggest a bold font to increase readability.

Good job I think you did a nice app to make our life easier.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on October 29, 2019, 09:27:27
I have another question: on a fenix 6 (Connect IQ compatible) but which is not "Pro" or "X" (without any Garmin original cartography), can the watch show my smartphone LoMaps current map on its screen, as can do my Sony SmartWatch 3 ?
Hi, I missed your question, sorry. Yes, now you can even with natively non-map garmin models (except the oldest one)!   :)

EDIT: But one thing to add here: Fenix 6 PRO and other Garmin music or map models can utilise more memory for the app which Locus uses for better map caching when changing the screens and ability to activate enhanced map colors mode. Nothing fancy, but just want to point out, that although both F6 and F6 PRO can render maps via Locus, F6 PRO can do it a LITTLE bit better. Sorry to complicate your decisions a little. :)

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Hello
Datafields are not yet customisable but it is of course one of the feature which we want to bring in some future versions.
Thank you for the feedback! The app must supports lots of screen sizes and layout configurations, so its not easy to fine tunes fonts/pixels on all models. We will try to improve it in the future. :)

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: fera on November 25, 2019, 16:35:17
Hey Jan!

I really like this activity app, I have used your implementation for Sony Smartwatch 2 and for Android Wear in the past, but this is the right way, I think. I am a proud owner of a Forerunner 645 Music for 3 whole days now, so this came just in time for me.

I would be glad too if the data screens would be customizable, but as a quick fix, if this bigger change requires more effort, it would be enough for me if I could see the current (pedal) cadence in the watch-side data screens.

Oh and also, if someone pairs the sensors with the phone app, and start recording there, do you plan to just mirror out the measured values to the phone data screens in the Garmin app? So no broadcasting or duality, only the already measured values would be indicated like with the distance for example.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on November 26, 2019, 11:00:01
Hi fera,

first for all, I am not author of apps on Wear OS and Tizen.  These were done by Locus team. :) 

Not sure if I will be able to squeeze cadence somewhere until I release version with customised datascreen, but lets leave it open now. :)

As for the sensors connected to the phone, we may apply similar customisation to even phone recording screen for the future, but there are some technical challenges here, so can't promise anything yet.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on December 08, 2019, 14:27:19
Today I have to report a crash.
Last Locus Version, last plugin version, last connect version.
Garmin forerunner 235 and Samsung A5 2017

I was recording a track with locus, ant heart monitor active from the garmin, the app watch alert me for lost connection after 1 hour of recording.

On the watch I tried to restart the app, but at restart the watch rebooted not only the app.
On the phone I noted that the bluetooth was disabled (without any action from me), no way to restart the service. I stopped locus but no way ti restart bluetooth. I noted that after the locus stop the plugin was active in the notification bar, no way to stop it.
So i restarted the phone, this solved the issue and I was able to restart locus, garmin app and connection.

I think this is a serious bug becouse I had to reboot the phone.
What I need is something to set and forget, I do not need something I have to set up during a 4 hours of trailrunning.

 
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on December 08, 2019, 15:12:36
Hi,

thanks for your report. So based on your description, something in your phone crashed during your activity resulting mallfunction of Bluetooth service. I am afraid I can't affect stability of Android OS, the app doesn't do any control of Bluetooth connectivity. You are first to report such issue.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on December 08, 2019, 15:28:25
Hi,

thanks for your report. So based on your description, something in your phone crashed during your activity resulting mallfunction of Bluetooth service. I am afraid I can't affect stability of Android OS, the app doesn't do any control of Bluetooth connectivity. You are first to report such issue.
I wear the watch every day, with bt active and devices connected just for have phone notifications, this never happened before.
And ... there is always someone or something that arrives first, in my races is always someone else

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Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on December 08, 2019, 17:27:01
Of course, the app uses sort-of continuous BT connection , so it might stress BT module little bit more. But it really just uses connection and do not control it. So I am afraid, I really can't do anything regarding its stability. But please let me know if it will be happening repeatedly.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on December 08, 2019, 17:31:33
Of course, the app uses sort-of continuous BT connection , so it might stress BT module little bit more. But it really just uses connection and do not control it. So I am afraid, I really can't do anything regarding its stability. But please let me know if it will be happening repeatedly.
Ok but I do not use app I not confident in while I training. I test it when I have the next walk with my family.

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