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Title: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on April 17, 2019, 10:14:43
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Hello!

on behalf of WearSoft and with cooperation with Locus Map team, I want to introduce you new application which enables you to benefit from advanced features of Locus Map while using your Garmin device.

FEATURES
With Locus Map for Garmin you can
1) use it as main activity application which enables you:
-- display real-time data from Locus Map running on your smartphone in your Garmin:
---- maps incl. any overlays (no need for native map support of Garmin device!)
---- navigation
---- guidance
---- track recording
---- device status (battery, GPS.. )
-- record activities, provide their statistics and store them on Garmin Connect
-- see map stored on your Garmin device (on supported devices)
2) export routes from your smartphone to your Garmin to navigate them with other activity apps (on devices supporting navigation features)

QUICK SETUP & DEVICES COMPATIBILITY & USER GUIDE & FAQ & TROUBLESHOOTING
https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:add-ons:locusforgarmin

DIRECT DOWNLOAD
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.wearsoft.locus.addon.ciq

Please let us know what you think! I am here to answer all your questions.

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Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on April 24, 2019, 17:52:04
Hello, new version 0.9.0 now supports much wider range of Garmin devices and also adds screen with native Garmin maps if supported by device. 
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on May 02, 2019, 12:21:53
Too fast paid the full version with Lo Coins, none of my Garmin units being compatible :(

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Menion on May 02, 2019, 14:58:18
Good day sbojuju,
please give Jan information which device you own. As I know, some are planned this month.

If none of your devices will be planned, let me know and I'll, of course, refunds your purchase.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on May 10, 2019, 18:13:35
Hello all,

past week was busy. We released more versions during these days. But you can now enjoy (in version 1.1.0):

- much more supported devices (check it here: https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:add-ons:locusforgarmin#devices_compatibility)
- new disclaimer screen to advise how to see more data screens
- updated preview mode
- and lots of smaller fixes and layout improvements

Enjoy and if you spot some issue, don't hesitate to let me know!

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Papaluna on May 30, 2019, 13:24:13
Hello Jan,

reading the news about your app in my Locus Pro app on my smartphone, i was really excited about that improvement for my most preferred combination of device which i used for hiking trips.
Although i used dedicated gps devices during my bicycle + hiking trip in the past 15 years, since 2 years for hiking i prefer using LocusMap Pro on a Samsung Galaxy A5 2017 together with a Garmin Fenix 3 HR.
A more easy transfer of tracks from Locus to Fenix and the option to get navigation turn advices would be a helpful enhancement to this combination.

At the moment Fenix 3 HR doesn't seems to be supported.
How far are you with your considerations about app for Fenix 3HR ?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on May 30, 2019, 21:01:34
Hi Papaluna,

we would love to add support also for Fenix 3 devices, but unfortunately they don't have enough resources (memory) to run such complex app. Currently we are still trying to find if there is way how to bring to this devices  more than just already planned track import functionality. For this reason, I can't commit to any publish date yet.

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Papaluna on May 31, 2019, 17:22:28
Hi Jan,

many thanks for your reply.
Yes, i'm aware that the Fenix 3 series and some other device have limited storage (~24Mb).
Probably the only way might be to drop some functions.
But which ones!?
And it is a higher effort to maintain 2 version.
So i will wait, hoping you will find a solution.

kind regards
Gert
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Theo on June 08, 2019, 22:45:55
Just decided to buy a Garmin Forerunner 945 after I read that now, there is also Locus Maps support. :)

I really like the combination of Locus Maps and the GPS watch.
It also seems to work pretty solid thus far even though I wasn't yet able to test a lot.

That said, I already like to suggest two more features which would improve the binding a lot for me:

1. If I start recording from my phone, it won't record the heart rate data from the watch. It would be really awesome to have the watch heart rate data in the track record if there is no other heart-rate-device mounted.

2. If I start recording with the watch, my locus app on the smartphone won't start tracking (At least, it won't show the track recording screen). Would be cool if I a device-started recording would be in sync with the phone app.

Best regards
Theo

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on June 12, 2019, 10:46:18
Hi Theo,

Thanks for your suggestions.

1) You can do this even now if you enable heart rate sharing via your HR Widget on your watch. After that Locus Map can be paired via ANT+ to the watch via HR sensor configuration. Embed this feature directly to Garmin Locus Map application is not planned for near feature, but we will note it to our "possible future stuff" list. :)

2) Those two recordings are separated for reasons. There are also users who are using them together for purpose. But we are planning to make control of Locus Map recording from watch, which will basically do what you are requesting. So stay tuned for next versions!

Best Regards, Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on June 14, 2019, 09:58:15
Quote from: menion on May 02, 2019, 14:58:18
Good day sbojuju,
please give Jan information which device you own. As I know, some are planned this month.

If none of your devices will be planned, let me know and I'll, of course, refunds your purchase.

Hi Menion, and sorry for the delay, I had not seen your message before...

And yes, none of my (too old) Garmin units is compatible with this app, but I had agreed it is my fault, as a demo mode was available before the purchase! ;)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on July 08, 2019, 11:38:03
Hi all,

for those who didn't yet find out hard way - Locus Map for Garmin for lots of users currently doesn't work as the Garmin app can't connect to Locus Map in smartphone. This is because of Garmin's unexpected change in Garmin Connect Mobile 4.20 resulting of fail of lots of Connect IQ apps which use local communication.

We are in touch with Garmin teams and they are working on solution, but we don't have confirmed day of fix from them yet. Unfortunately it is not possible to make workaround on our side, so until the resolution the only way how to make the app work again is to downgrade Garmin Connect to version 4.19. The installation file is available here:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/garmin/garmin-connect-mobile/garmin-connect-mobile-4-19-1-release/

We are sorry for inconvenience.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Kalti94 on August 18, 2019, 20:35:08
After solving the problems with Garmin.
Can you check why the Fenix 3 and Fenix 3 HR are not supported while the outdated Vivoactive HR and the new Fenix 5 are?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on August 19, 2019, 11:00:56
Hi Kalti, the reason is that Fenix 3 has even less memory then those two mentioned models and current version simply do not fit there. But currently we are working hard to make it work even on Fenix3 models - we hope to release public version compatible with your watch in next few weeks.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on August 26, 2019, 16:17:58
Hello, for all with Fenix 3 or Forerunner 230/235 watches - check out the newest version! :)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Papaluna on September 02, 2019, 23:12:20
Hello Jan,
i buied and installed premium version onto my Fenix 3HR.
I have made first navigations and didn't encountered any crash.
Pretty good.
Howsoever i'm missing really the optio to import tracks/routes.
Is it caused by the limited memory.?
Might it be an option to serve a second app with this function?
Kind regards
Gert
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on September 03, 2019, 10:52:11
Hi Gert,

thanks for feedback. Unfortunately Fenix 3 doesn't support to import track via Connect IQ app, because of missing functionalities in its old CIQ version. Honestly, I was also surprised by this limitation.

So unfortunately, it is not possible to provide this feature on this model.

Jan

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Papaluna on September 03, 2019, 22:07:47
Hi Jan,
1.
thats really strange.
I just exported a track from Locus.
I than opened the track with 'open with' option.
This offers me to choose Garmin Connect.
After this the track was imported into GC.
And from GC i can transfer the track to my Fenix 3.
So in general it is possible to transfer.
But it is really not user friendly.

2.no deviation alarm
Today navigating a track in Locus i could hear deviation alarm voice from Locus(fortunately i had forgotten to mute sounds otherwise i had missed this alarm) but doesn't see a hint on Fenix.
Bug or missing function?
Kind regards
Gert
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on September 04, 2019, 18:54:15
Hi Papaluna,

yes, this import works and I agree it is not really user-friendly. But I talked about importing via Connect IQ app like Locus Map. And that is not possible on Fenix 3 (unlike newer models which allows you to import track with two clicks via our app).

We have lots of planned features and some alert via Garmin before changing direction is one of them. The only question is how much we will be able to squeeze to already fully used memory limit on Fenix 3.

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on October 08, 2019, 15:58:04
Garmin fenix 6 is available now, Christmas is coming soon, Locus Map for Garmin is already paid, so... ;)

Concerning the fenix 6, can have the 6x version (with cartography) any interest over le 6 version (without cartography), for using it mainly with LocusMap, for that purpose? Not speaking here of its screen (a little larger,) nor the music related fonctions.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on October 08, 2019, 16:30:56
Hi Sbouju,

Fenix 6 is already supported, so why don't you install it? Broken maps on Fenix 6 will be fixed in next few days with new version.

EDIT: Oh, I didn't understand your answer at first.
Yes, with Fenix 6 PRO, you will have in Locus Map additional screen with Garmin maps. But with version 2.0.0, which will come in just few days, you will get another map screen in Locus Map regardless Fenix 6 model you choose to buy, so this might ease your decision. ;)

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on October 08, 2019, 19:11:03
Quote from: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on October 08, 2019, 16:30:56
Fenix 6 is already supported, so why don't you install it?
Good idea! I just need to make the (good!) choice for buying one of its numerous models, before this installation...  ;)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on October 13, 2019, 12:39:45
I have another question: on a fenix 6 (Connect IQ compatible) but which is not "Pro" or "X" (without any Garmin original cartography), can the watch show my smartphone LoMaps current map on its screen, as can do my Sony SmartWatch 3 ?

(http://img115.xooimage.com/files/8/e/6/20191013_131845-56a879a.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWDjzbVQf8w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWDjzbVQf8w)

Viewing the under picture and reading the documentation tends to answer "yes", but I want to be sure, because the purchase of a fenix 6X (with cartography) is something heavy, and not so really useful if one can do quite the same things with a "standard" fenix 6 or 6S *AND* "Locus Map for Garmin"  ;)

(https://services.garmin.com/appsLibraryBusinessServices_v0/rest/apps/f15dd655-e734-456e-b8f5-314d287df4a4/screenshots/d5b437f2-fba6-41ea-ab09-f8fd53646773)

On an other hand, seing what can already bring the WearOS compatibility of LocuMap, I can even consider buying a (cheaper...) Casio Pro Trek Smart WSD-F30 or WSD-F21 sport and connected watch, in place of a Garmin one...

(https://www.sport-passion.fr/pictures/test-materiel/casio-pro-trek-wsd-f30.jpg)
(https://www.watchuseek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Pro-Trek-WSD-F21-display-980x720.jpg)

And in the same spirit, another (full) Locus wrist solution under, tested, but abandoned, mainly for the poor GPS reception of the Jelly Pro  :(

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Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on October 25, 2019, 16:45:19
Hello,
I'm an old Locus user (and beta tester) and I'm happy to see the development of Locus for Garmin.
I have a Samsung A5 2017 and a Gramin Forerunner 235.
As you suggested some post ago I tried this case of use:
track recording and navigation on the phone that receives the heart rate data from the watch and it works.
I think it's not very user friendly but the problem is from Gramin side, I need to go on Garmin options start and stop transmission of heart data if I do not use it for too much time (the smartwatch not the heart  ;D ).

Are the fields of track recording's watch-face customizable?
Now I see TIME - DISTANCE - TIME FROM START - CURRENT ALTITUDE.
For my experience  TIME needs an own watch-face (as other Garmin apps and watch-faces do) and the 4 fields need to be customizable.
How about to choose the first 4 from the config of locus map recording panel ?
In this way every one can choose  the best that fits his habits.
In my case I'd like to see HEART RATE - POSITIVE GAIN instead of TIME and CURRENT ALTITUDE.

Just another suggestion: you did a good job with the data field on the DEVICES watch-face but it's graphically horrible.What about:

Phone ------ Watch
OFF     REC     OFF
OFF     GPS      FIX
62%     BAT      81%

With Phone column withe, middle coloured, Watch column black.
I also suggest a bold font to increase readability.

Good job I think you did a nice app to make our life easier.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on October 29, 2019, 09:27:27
Quote from: sbouju on October 13, 2019, 12:39:45
I have another question: on a fenix 6 (Connect IQ compatible) but which is not "Pro" or "X" (without any Garmin original cartography), can the watch show my smartphone LoMaps current map on its screen, as can do my Sony SmartWatch 3 ?
Hi, I missed your question, sorry. Yes, now you can even with natively non-map garmin models (except the oldest one)!   :)

EDIT: But one thing to add here: Fenix 6 PRO and other Garmin music or map models can utilise more memory for the app which Locus uses for better map caching when changing the screens and ability to activate enhanced map colors mode. Nothing fancy, but just want to point out, that although both F6 and F6 PRO can render maps via Locus, F6 PRO can do it a LITTLE bit better. Sorry to complicate your decisions a little. :)

(http://www.wearsoft.info/data/20191014_163752ss.jpg)

Quote from: lor74cas on October 25, 2019, 16:45:19Hello
Datafields are not yet customisable but it is of course one of the feature which we want to bring in some future versions.
Thank you for the feedback! The app must supports lots of screen sizes and layout configurations, so its not easy to fine tunes fonts/pixels on all models. We will try to improve it in the future. :)

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: fera on November 25, 2019, 16:35:17
Hey Jan!

I really like this activity app, I have used your implementation for Sony Smartwatch 2 and for Android Wear in the past, but this is the right way, I think. I am a proud owner of a Forerunner 645 Music for 3 whole days now, so this came just in time for me.

I would be glad too if the data screens would be customizable, but as a quick fix, if this bigger change requires more effort, it would be enough for me if I could see the current (pedal) cadence in the watch-side data screens.

Oh and also, if someone pairs the sensors with the phone app, and start recording there, do you plan to just mirror out the measured values to the phone data screens in the Garmin app? So no broadcasting or duality, only the already measured values would be indicated like with the distance for example.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on November 26, 2019, 11:00:01
Hi fera,

first for all, I am not author of apps on Wear OS and Tizen.  These were done by Locus team. :) 

Not sure if I will be able to squeeze cadence somewhere until I release version with customised datascreen, but lets leave it open now. :)

As for the sensors connected to the phone, we may apply similar customisation to even phone recording screen for the future, but there are some technical challenges here, so can't promise anything yet.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on December 08, 2019, 14:27:19
Today I have to report a crash.
Last Locus Version, last plugin version, last connect version.
Garmin forerunner 235 and Samsung A5 2017

I was recording a track with locus, ant heart monitor active from the garmin, the app watch alert me for lost connection after 1 hour of recording.

On the watch I tried to restart the app, but at restart the watch rebooted not only the app.
On the phone I noted that the bluetooth was disabled (without any action from me), no way to restart the service. I stopped locus but no way ti restart bluetooth. I noted that after the locus stop the plugin was active in the notification bar, no way to stop it.
So i restarted the phone, this solved the issue and I was able to restart locus, garmin app and connection.

I think this is a serious bug becouse I had to reboot the phone.
What I need is something to set and forget, I do not need something I have to set up during a 4 hours of trailrunning.

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on December 08, 2019, 15:12:36
Hi,

thanks for your report. So based on your description, something in your phone crashed during your activity resulting mallfunction of Bluetooth service. I am afraid I can't affect stability of Android OS, the app doesn't do any control of Bluetooth connectivity. You are first to report such issue.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on December 08, 2019, 15:28:25
Quote from: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on December 08, 2019, 15:12:36
Hi,

thanks for your report. So based on your description, something in your phone crashed during your activity resulting mallfunction of Bluetooth service. I am afraid I can't affect stability of Android OS, the app doesn't do any control of Bluetooth connectivity. You are first to report such issue.
I wear the watch every day, with bt active and devices connected just for have phone notifications, this never happened before.
And ... there is always someone or something that arrives first, in my races is always someone else

Inviato dal mio SM-A520F utilizzando Tapatalk

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on December 08, 2019, 17:27:01
Of course, the app uses sort-of continuous BT connection , so it might stress BT module little bit more. But it really just uses connection and do not control it. So I am afraid, I really can't do anything regarding its stability. But please let me know if it will be happening repeatedly.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on December 08, 2019, 17:31:33
Quote from: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on December 08, 2019, 17:27:01
Of course, the app uses sort-of continuous BT connection , so it might stress BT module little bit more. But it really just uses connection and do not control it. So I am afraid, I really can't do anything regarding its stability. But please let me know if it will be happening repeatedly.
Ok but I do not use app I not confident in while I training. I test it when I have the next walk with my family.

Inviato dal mio SM-A520F utilizzando Tapatalk

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on December 18, 2019, 19:39:40
Discovering my finally choosen fenix 6X   :)

And I have a first question, when viewing LoMaps on it : is there a way for zooming in/out the map view ?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on December 20, 2019, 16:58:52
Yep, just hold MENU (or UP) button. :)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on December 20, 2019, 19:45:16
Ah, OK, the long press... ;) Fine  :)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on December 22, 2019, 11:56:01
My second question, or problem, is that most of th time I cannot launch Locus Map on my fenix 6X, only getting the under message:
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on December 22, 2019, 18:05:43
And the thing which seems to have worked for this problem:  uninstall then re-install the LocusMap Garmin app... Until the next time ?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on December 23, 2019, 14:00:48
Hi, this is issue which I am aware that it might be happening for some users but wasn't able to simulate or find more details about it yet. Seems like just another Garmin connectivity issue which I am unable to handle in the app  >:(. Please let me know if reinstall really solved this issue for you or it returned occasionally. Thanks!
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on December 28, 2019, 18:07:28
Today I tested again the plugin:
recording and guide activated on the phone
the watch as a simple viewer
I found on the watch the Navigation watchface, why is it activated ? I have the guidance on the phone and not the navigation, I was following a track I did with locus planner.
Today it worked perfectly.
I'm still waiting for the custom watchfaces, than it'd be perfect for my use case, long distance running/trailrunning.

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on January 02, 2020, 12:35:59
Hi, Navigation screen is active when you run guidance via track, because some tracks have nav instructions usable even on this mode.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on January 13, 2020, 21:11:27
Hi,
Playing with the app on the fenix 6X, I feel the LocusMap map refreshing very slow and painful, and I was asking myself if it was for a bad setting or something like that, especially because this same map refreshing is very fast and smooth, when I compare with the Android Wear version of Locus Map on my Sony Smartwatch 3 in the same conditions.

Amazingly, the two watches can have their respective LocusMap app working in the same time ;)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on January 14, 2020, 10:35:55
Hi, that is the limitation of Garmin Connect IQ platform. The map will never be as fast as on Android Wear.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on January 17, 2020, 21:27:46
Quote from: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on October 29, 2019, 09:27:27
Datafields are not yet customisable but it is of course one of the feature which we want to bring in some future versions.
Is there a plan for making the Garmin watch able to launch/pause/stop the track recording in the smartphone Locus Map app, in replacement (or complement) of the track recording in the watch itself (already available)...?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on January 18, 2020, 13:17:53
Quote from: sbouju on January 17, 2020, 21:27:46
Quote from: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on October 29, 2019, 09:27:27
Datafields are not yet customisable but it is of course one of the feature which we want to bring in some future versions.
Is there a plan for making the Garmin watch able to launch/pause/stop the track recording in the smartphone Locus Map app, in replacement (or complement) of the track recording in the watch itself (already available)...?
I do not like the start and stop feature on the watch because there is always the case that an unwanted button press stops the recording track. But the lap/point mark should be usefull.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on January 19, 2020, 11:06:18
Quote from: sbouju on January 17, 2020, 21:27:46Is there a plan for making the Garmin watch able to launch/pause/stop the track recording in the smartphone Locus Map app, in replacement (or complement) of the track recording in the watch itself (already available)...?
Yes! This is actually quite high on our priority list!

Quote from: lor74cas on January 18, 2020, 13:17:53I do not like the start and stop feature on the watch because there is always the case that an unwanted button press stops the recording track. But the lap/point mark should be usefull.
Hi, doesn't your model support buttons lock feature? Start/stop feature is implemented to behave similar as native activity apps.
Create waypoint feature is also in consideration.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on January 19, 2020, 16:13:31
Quote from: lor74cas on January 18, 2020, 13:17:53
Hi, doesn't your model support buttons lock feature? Start/stop feature is implemented to behave similar as native activity apps.
Create waypoint feature is also in consideration.
Now I know something new about my watch, yes it supports this features, never know about that, thank you!
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on January 20, 2020, 20:52:23
Quote from: Jan Čapek - WearSoft on December 23, 2019, 14:00:48
Please let me know if reinstall really solved this issue for you or it returned occasionally.
I had it one more time yesterday. So yes, it comes back occasionally, but no so often... ;)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: fera on March 10, 2020, 12:52:07
Hey there!

Jan, have you considered apart from the customizable garmin data screens the possibility of including pedal cadence? It could be included instead of the avarage speed for example  :)

Because I understand that the custom screens are a much bigger effort to implement.

Thanks for your answer!

Edit: I forgot to ask, is this app open-source like the Sony Smartwatch 2 companion app was (I know that it was made by the Locus team)? Because if the source is public, I could squeeze the cadence into it  ;)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on March 10, 2020, 13:57:12
Hi, I would include cadence when enabling data screen customisations, thanks for your feedback.  App is not open-source.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mdmystko on March 11, 2020, 15:53:06
Hi,
I am very happy with Locus Map on my Vivoactive 3. Taking a hike is so much easier with navigation on my wrist. If I take a longer break, I pause activity recording to get better stats. However, when I use Resume, collection of stats is not resumed. GPS track, elevation and heart rate are all recorded. On the other hand, distance and speed are ignored. I tried two approaches available in my Vivoactive 3:
Neither of them worked. I attach a screenshot of an activity that documents the problem.
(http://vivo3_resume_failed.png)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on March 13, 2020, 15:59:55
@mdmystko Hi, this unfortunately seems as some bug in Vivoactive3 firmware.  :-\ Does it happening all the time? Distance is freezed even on watch screen after resuming?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mdmystko on March 18, 2020, 09:49:42
Yes, distance was frozen on watch screen after resuming. I recorded two such broken activities on a long hike with a 30 minutes pause. However, when I try to reproduce the problem on short (testing) hikes, everything seems to work correctly. If I identify conditions when the problem occurs, I will post once more.

BTW: I also vote for Edge support. Please, please, pretty please  :)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on March 19, 2020, 17:32:31
Our app was nominated among TOP 3 of BEST APP OF ACTIVE LIFESTYLE in 2020 Garmin Connect IQ Developer awards!

Please help us to win!  8) Vote for us here
https://forums.garmin.com/developer/connect-iq/b/news-announcements/posts/connect-iq-developer-awards---vote-for-best-apps-for-the-active-lifestyle

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Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: fera on May 12, 2020, 12:22:39
Will we get custom data screens? :)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on May 13, 2020, 11:31:02
Hi, they are for sure still planned. Sorry it takes so long!  :)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: basecore on June 02, 2020, 07:31:04
Hello,
first of all thank you for your great Addon. It works quite well.
But unfortunately on my Garmin Vivoactive 4 the location in the map view is not changing when my android smartphone lost its signal even if I'm running Locus Map on my phone with offline LoMaps.
Shortly after my phone gets signal again also the map view on the Vivoactive is working again.
I have a connection from my phone to the Garmin device. All other views on the Garmin device are updating. The offline map view on my phone is working also.

My smartphone is a Fairphone 2 with LineageOS 16.0 and MicroG (I am not using GApps).

Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: lor74cas on June 02, 2020, 17:29:34
Again  Locus Pro closed, Garmin app closed, but Garmin sync notification still present.

Inviato dal mio SM-A520F utilizzando Tapatalk

Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on June 04, 2020, 16:05:37
Quote from: 0709 on June 01, 2020, 21:47:03
Yep !!!! ;D

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/blog/general/2020-connect-iq-developer-awards-winners/
;)
Quote from: basecore on June 02, 2020, 07:31:04But unfortunately on my Garmin Vivoactive 4 the location in the map view is not changing when my android smartphone lost its signal ...
Hmm, that is strange. Unfortunately you have quite unique setup, so not sure if I will be able to find out why it does not work properly for you.  :-\
Quote from: lor74cas on June 02, 2020, 17:29:34
Again  Locus Pro closed, Garmin app closed, but Garmin sync notification still present.
Info about closing and opening apps (+ course import) goes via Garmin messaging solution which is unfortunately highly unreliable. It might help to restart phone or watch to get it working again. Or you can of couse always shutdown Locus Map for Garmin service by clicking to STOP button on notification.

Jan
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: dominik on June 30, 2020, 08:58:58
Hello,

I have a Garmin Fenix 3 HR.
After installing Locus Maps for Garmin I could transfer a route to my watch and navigate with it (of course without map display).
After switching to the Pro version I get the following message on my watch when trying to transfer a route:
"Import to internal storage is not supported by this device"
It worked for the free version. In the compatibility overview the Fenix 3 HR is released for this! :-\
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on July 06, 2020, 10:20:18
Hi Dominic,

our app can't import route to internal storage of Fenix 3, thus the message you are getting. Activating Premium version do not affect this at all. Are you sure you didn't confuse it with navigation features controlled by phone? You can just turn on navigation on your phone and be navigated with your Fenix.

Compatibility table is correct.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Christophe on July 25, 2020, 18:27:23
Hi Jan, very good job that this app. I use it for cycling On my handlebar. Is it possible to use an external HR capteur? Because when my watch is not on my wrist the HR is not displayed.
Thanks
Christophe
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on July 27, 2020, 14:16:14
Are you sure that your Garmin watch cannot use an external HR sensor in place of its own...?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Christophe on July 29, 2020, 14:50:14
Hi,
My Garmin Watch is able to use an external HR sensor. But when I record a session with Locus map for Garmin application only the internal watch sensor is used. When I remove the watch from my wrist the HR is "--".
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on July 29, 2020, 15:13:17
OK... So if it is OK, you may prefer record your session with the watch app alone (= without any Locus app), in this case of twin HR sensors ?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on July 29, 2020, 21:38:54
Hi, the app should connect to same sensors you use for selected activity type when recording activity by Locus Map for Garmin. I would suggest to make sure, you are opening the app and turning on the activity when you already have your HR sensor active. It should for sure work.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on January 18, 2021, 16:15:56
Just begining  with Locus v4 beta...
How can I inform Locus 4, or my Garmin watch, or both, than I am already registered for the full version of Locus Map for Garmin, and so, to go out the preview mode on my watch?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on January 18, 2021, 17:09:16
Hi, just log in to Locus Store withing LM4 with your account and item will immediately become identified as purchased already.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on January 18, 2021, 17:22:02
Thank you, You've got great! ;)
I probably had this problem because of my two valid Locus accounts...
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on March 25, 2021, 09:29:24
If I start to record an activity from the Locus Map module of my watch only (and Locus Map app not launched on the smartphone),  is it a normal behaviour to see this recording stopped when the smartphone shut down (for example if it has no more power...) ?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: hom on April 05, 2021, 00:56:50
HI,
on my vivoactive 4 I can't see the map shared by my smartphone.
I have the add on, start the app after the route ecc.. but i dont see anything only square field...
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on April 06, 2021, 14:33:09
Hi @hom,
unfortunately phone maps feature in Garmin addon is currently broken. We hope to find some solution soon. For more detail or possible workaround on your side please see:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=538744690854580&id=115149903214063
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on April 16, 2021, 09:47:28
Quote from: sbouju on March 25, 2021, 09:29:24
If I start to record an activity from the Locus Map module of my watch only (and Locus Map app not launched on the smartphone),  is it a normal behaviour to see this recording stopped when the smartphone shut down (for example if it has no more power...) ?

Up...
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on April 19, 2021, 09:56:55
Quote from: sbouju on March 25, 2021, 09:29:24
If I start to record an activity from the Locus Map module of my watch only (and Locus Map app not launched on the smartphone),  is it a normal behaviour to see this recording stopped when the smartphone shut down (for example if it has no more power...) ?
If there is recording activity using Garmin GPS and watch looses connection with smartphone (for example when battery dies), application will show huge red alert but continue to record on background. When leaving the app (alert), the app will provide selection whether you want to save or discart such recording.

This is of course not ideal, I hope to implement this better so the app will remain usable even when phone is not accessible, but right now, there are other priorities to take care off.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Germed on September 19, 2021, 14:21:57
Hi, I have downloaded the version 4.39, but it does not work as well. Is something changed since the first Facebook announcement?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on September 23, 2021, 12:40:04
Hi Germed, not that I am aware of and also other do not report such thing. Was you online when you tried that?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Germed on September 23, 2021, 16:28:43
I have tried both, online and offline (just bluetooth connection is on), but after several seconds of delay on the screen of my Venu2 appears IQ with the exlamation mark on it.
I use Locus map pro 3.54.3+locus map for garmin premium 2.0.0 (43) as well as Garmin connect 4.39
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Germed on December 05, 2021, 13:39:30
Hi, finally I have managed to let it work on my Venu 2,
What I did so far (the exact sequence is described): uninstalled Garmin connect IQ from my phone, uninstalled Gramin connect,
Updated Locus map to 3.55.1, Dowloaded Garmin connect 4.39 and installed it, Connected the watch to the Gramin connect on my phone. Started Locus  map on my phone and on the Venu 2. And got no map again, than I switched off the wifi and the data on the phone, leaving just bluetooth, adjusted the permissions of Garmin connect to be abble to access to the geolocation as well as to the files  and installed the last available Garmin connect IQ 2.12.1 as well. Restarted the Locus map on the phone and on the watch, started the wifi and the data on the phone again and finally got it working. Yeah!
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on December 18, 2021, 18:19:16
It seems like the 'Send to Garmin' feature sends a gpx file to the watch. However, this does not allow native garmin turn-by-turn navigation. I think if it was possible to send a fit file with navigation hints instead vof a gpx, this could be solved. Any chance that this is iwill be implemented? Currently, the only way of getting turn-by-turn navigation on Garmin watches is to send a track via Garmin connect, which is annoying :-)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on December 21, 2021, 10:21:40
@mfink It sends FIT file to Garmin watch and you can for sure use it to transfer Turn-by-turn instructions. But you must check how you have configured navigation on your Garmin device - it can either utilise this preconfigured TbT or generate its own based on internal map data. If you setup it right, you should have full control of TbT via Locus Map.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on December 21, 2021, 16:27:32
Hi Jan. Thank you for your reply. I am sure that TBT is working fine when navigation is running on the phone and Locus is sending the alerts to the locus app on the watch. What is unfortunately not working is to get TBT navigation on native garmin apps. So when i send  the track from Locus to my Fenix 6X and start a native Garmin activity from the track, it is not giving me TBT navigation. It only shows the distance to the end of the track.
If you can get this to work, it would be a real killer feature, because it would be the only way of getting TBT from a track that is not synced via Garmin Connect.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on December 21, 2021, 16:59:22
I was referring to native garmin nav features. Something is not correctly setuped on your side, because Locus Map for Garmin should not block TbT info in tracks during transfer - although it is long time when I tested this last time.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on December 21, 2021, 17:33:53
Okay, could of course be that locus packs all the TBT hints into the file but the watch refuses to read them. Garmin often behaves strange, so i think this is not extremely unlikely. What i can tell for sure is that tracks that are synced from Garmin Connect offer TBT and the tracks from Locus Map do not. At least on the Fenix 6X.
I could set the watch to re-calculate the track, i know that this woul give me TBT navigation, but this i want to avoid because it takes forever and sometimes the re-calculate comes up with a different route than i set in the track.
Would be interested what's the difference between the files that come from Garmin Connect compared to the ones that come from Locus. Maybe i can find the files on the watch then we could compare.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on December 23, 2021, 08:04:42
Okay, it was my fault. Somehow i expected that locus always automatically genarate navigation hints. But i needed to turn them on manually on the route planner.
So all the time i tried to send a route that did not have navigation hints included  ;D
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on January 15, 2022, 18:33:36
Hi,
Having a look again on the Locus Map for Garmin application, I observ that I can no longer see the current map of Locus on the fenix screen, but just the Garmin one, now.
Did I missed something ?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on January 17, 2022, 18:22:02
Yes, you indeed missed something  :)
https://www.facebook.com/LocusMapForGarmin/posts/239916767929899
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on January 17, 2022, 18:31:52
Quote from: mfink on January 17, 2022, 18:22:02
Yes, you indeed missed something  :)
https://www.facebook.com/LocusMapForGarmin/posts/239916767929899
Thank you ! And sorry , but not enough to make me sign in to FB ;)
Anyway, I feel not comfortable with a map view on my wrist, even with the fast enough Garmin one...
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on February 21, 2022, 17:55:30
Today I tried for the first time to send a course while my Fenix 6X is in an activity. It was not working. Locus did not come up on the watch. Is that a known issue? And is there a workaround?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on February 22, 2022, 10:23:40
Hi @mfink , Fenix 6  can't launch other app while running different one - be it either CIQ or native. So you can't do import during activity.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on February 22, 2022, 10:54:23
Thanks Jan. I can work around it via the gimporter widget. In case there are plans to further enhance the Garmin App, it would be great if you could add a widget version that we can use during an activity  :).
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: sbouju on March 01, 2022, 12:04:24
By making the first settings of a new smartphone and trying again to use, even in slightly "degraded" mode (see above...), the Locus Map-Garmin fenix 6X couple, I can no longer manage so that they recognize each other, and only get failure messages on the watch (see under...).
What is the path to follow to make it work again?
I specify at this point that the watch and the smartphone already communicate with each other, of course, for example for synchronizations or real-time monitoring of watch data in Android Garmin Connect.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on March 01, 2022, 12:31:12
For me, connection problems were always fixed by disabling and reanabling Bluetooth on the phone. You can also check the FAQ here: https://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:add-ons:locusforgarmin#garmin_application_keeps_loosing_connectivity
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on May 07, 2022, 14:25:33
Hi Jan. It would be great if Locus would support the course point icons from Garmin Connect. Currently it only supports the old waypoint icons (from Basecamp?). These do not work as course point icons, at least not on Fenix watches. It would be awesome if we could select the course point icons in Locus and and see them then also on the watch when we export the course. The fenix expects the correct course point ID in the fit file, then it will display the icon. The course point icons could be a separate category under the Garmin icons
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on May 12, 2022, 17:12:33
Hi sbouju, completely missed your post, sorry. Not sure what is the problem in your case honestly!  :-\ Does it happening even if you leave Locus Map for Garmin app open on your smartphone?

@mfink Yep, we have draft of changes which enables you to better pair icons on Locus with the new Fenix devices showing. But it is not that easy as various Garmin models have different icon sets.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on May 12, 2022, 19:25:59
That's great to hear. Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: fera on May 31, 2022, 15:22:06
Hi Jan!

I am really sorry about the whole Garmin API-fiasco.
Got to say, on my FRN945 I am only using the app for quick course transfer from the phone, and love it!

Although I plan to upgrade to a Garmin Edge for my bike, and as I see it is not yet supported.
Is it still planned to be supported, or maybe the community can give some advice how to quickly copy courses from phone to a Garmin Edge 530?

Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on May 31, 2022, 16:14:17
This should work:
- install the gexporter app on your phone and gimporter widget on your Edge.
- export course from Locus in gpx or fit format. Tick 'Share after Export'.
- on the share Dialog, select the gexporter app.
- open the gimporter widget on the edge and import the course.

Alternatively, you can import the exported course into Garmin connect and send it to the Edge from there.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: veloc on August 12, 2022, 21:16:44
As you recommended I have downgraded Garmin connect to version 4.19. Still I can't use the Garmin's vivoactive 3 GPS (tried to connect Locus maps via "Bluetooth GPS/GPS device", but the Garmin gps device is not found.
Any hints?
Edit: Locus map classic 3.62.0; Locus Map for Garmin premium: device status connected [connection is stable]
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on August 15, 2022, 16:40:50
Hi, the purpose of the app was never to utilize Garmin GPS for Locus Map on the phone, although several times requested. This is not supported and can't promise I will be able to implement it in the future.

Also, recommendation to downgrade to version 4.19 is no longer valid as it is quite old version (not supporting new devices). If it is still working for you, feel free to use it, but I would not recommend it anymore. That unfortunately means loss of map streaming feature, which is shame but can't do anything about it.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: veloc on August 20, 2022, 18:23:05
Quote from: Jan Čapek on August 15, 2022, 16:40:50That unfortunately means loss of map streaming feature....
Nearly wrote: "Does not work with version 4.19 either... "
But I was not aware that the app updated to version 4.58. Sorry!

Phone maps experimental" is active. "Phone map feature unavailable..." By the way: it's confusing, that there is a menue point in Locus for Garmin: "Garmin gps: on/off, if the Garmin GPS is not supported. If this is feature, it should be hidden and not pop up in the menue in my point of view.
I'm dissapointed to be honest: I have bought a used vivoactve 3 andbecause of the locus for Garmin marketing. And now I see in this thread, that displaying a map e.g. with a Sony smartwatch is no problem at all...
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: mfink on May 07, 2023, 13:28:39
@Jan: It is now one year since I asked about better support for the Garmin Connect Icons in Locus, therefore I dare to ask another time today if there is any update on this  :) . It would be a really nice enhancement. Currently my workaround is to open the course from Locus in IQmapReceiver and adjust the icons there. It works okay, but would be nice to not going this extra detour.  :D

Also another question that I wanted to ask for a long time but always forgot so far: when I send a route from Locus to my Fenix 6x, the watch always prompts me if I would like to open the locus watch app to import the route. I can select "open once" or "always", but also if I select "always", in asks me every time again. Is there a a way to make it open the locus CIQ app automatically without prompt?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: winice on July 12, 2023, 09:21:52
@Jan I am using some other CIQ and Android app to transfer files between FR935 and Phone. I found it provides a HTTP service on phone and transfer the binary file (.fit file) to the watch by JSON format. I am wondering whether LM can convert the map to JSON then send JSON to watch. And finally the watch decode the JSON and show it as BMP?

I know this may need more powerful processor. Just a idea to display maps on watch.
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on August 08, 2023, 15:01:03
sorry for late reply.  :o

@mfink Whole Garmin For Locus addon is waiting for some "restart" as the current app can't be updated at all because
Garmin again unexpectedly broke backward compatibility of some important Connect IQ SDK features which Locus Map rely on. So I can't even add support for latest devices now unfortunately.

This prompt is another example of the state of CIQ platform. It never properly worked until I finally this year on latest devices like EPIX. But If it still behaves the same for you, I don't expect it will ever change for Fenix 6 family.


@winice not possible. CIQ is very limited in such areas. 
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: blackdog on October 22, 2023, 19:14:03
Hi all,
today before I goes to biking I bought this addon to my Fenix 7x Sapphire Pro. Then I used it. The handle was pretty simple. But... on the 4th watch screen there is the garmin map. I can zoom/pan/move. But it is possible to show the track on this garmin map, on which I just ride?
Title: Re: Locus Map for Garmin
Post by: Jan Čapek on February 13, 2024, 09:18:23
Hi blackdog, sorry for such late reply, missed your post. You can have track on this map screen if you record activity within the app via watch. In case you are recording on Locus Map app in mobile phone, the track is not rendered here.