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Title: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: Magellan on November 26, 2017, 10:50:31
Source: Tiramisù 3.0.2 for Oruxmaps and MapsForge compatible applications
http://tartamillo.wordpress.com (http://tartamillo.wordpress.com)



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Now able to work in Locus. Some layers have been added. This theme is only for maps version 3. (lomaps and other V3)
Redone the "scrub", now this is a clarified version of the forest from version 2.
The "wood" is now correctly displayed taking into account the type of foliage and has a different shade, for example, coniferous - darker. Increased object signatures, house numbers, regrouped layers
and many many other small things ....

[(http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1615053337/bc82e4d5/33581430_s.png) (http://vfl.ru/fotos/bc82e4d533581430.html)  (http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1615053393/9f2b3456/33581444_s.png) (http://vfl.ru/fotos/9f2b345633581444.html)
Satellite map  + overlay Lomaps with the included layers of tourism and huts only ... everything else is off

Updated to 3LE+5 (12/02/2018):
- slightly increased the visibility of the trails
- buildings names in Place Names
- underground waterways
- intermittent streams and rivers (OAM only)
- embankment's  (OAM)
- and the little things are different
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Menion on November 26, 2017, 11:06:25
This looks pretty nice, thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Viajero Perdido on November 26, 2017, 15:08:15
Looks nice, yes, but I'm going nuts trying to install it.  Locus doesn't show it as an option, even after exiting Locus and [desperate] rebooting the tablet.

Do I have the file structure right?
mapsVector/_themes/Tiramisu_3_0_2.xml
mapsVector/_themes/Tiramisu_3/[194_assorted_files]

That matches what I see in the ZIP.  (Ignoring the PDFs; I left those out.)

I've tried various other structures as well, following the example of themes that *do* show up.  Such as, adding a Tiramisu directory to hold the XML and the resources directory, or simply scattering the resources beside the XML.  None of it works.  What am I doing wrong?

(The map downloader app doesn't work.)

Thanks in advance,
VP


WAIT A MINUTE.  Now that I've logged in to post this note, I see a download link in the post above - for a *different* ZIP file.  (Different than what I downloaded from the "box" website after a search.)  That may be the answer!  [testing...]  Yes, that one works.  Simply dropped the ZIP contents into _themes, and it works.  And indeed, it looks great.  Thanks.

But totally confusing for anybody not logged in.
LOG IN TO DOWNLOAD FROM THIS PAGE.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Taras D on November 28, 2017, 20:18:02
I installed Tiramisu 3 LE theme but it does not display all hiking trails in LoMaps.

I compared several map themes and here are the results.

Shows all hiking trails?
Hike & Bike = Yes
Tiramisu 3 LE = No
Elevate LE = No
HiLo = Yes
Voluntary UK = Yes

(https://i.imgur.com/XLYGO52l.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/XLYGO52.jpg)
Full-size image (https://i.imgur.com/XLYGO52.jpg)
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: john_percy on November 28, 2017, 20:24:53
Quote from: Taras D on November 28, 2017, 20:18:02
I installed Tiramisu 3 LE theme but it does not display all hiking trails in LoMaps.

I compared several map themes and here are the results.

Shows all hiking trails?
Hike & Bike = Yes
Tiramisu 3 LE = No
Elevate LE = No
HiLo = Yes
Voluntary UK = Yes

(https://i.imgur.com/XLYGO52l.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/XLYGO52.jpg)
Full-size image (https://i.imgur.com/XLYGO52.jpg)
Voluntary is designed to work with both LoMaps and OAMaps. I know Elevate is only designed to work with OAMaps. I suspect you may find the missing trails if you try OpenAndroMaps with such themes.

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Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Viajero Perdido on November 28, 2017, 20:46:06
Reminds me...

One thing I've noticed is that Tiramisu (in Hiking mode) shows hiking trails less prominently than Elevate LE, which I understand it's based upon.  Notice the difference between the second and third examples above.

Personally, I definitely prefer the trails being more prominent.

But overall, a great theme.  Thank you!
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Taras D on November 28, 2017, 21:46:55
john_percy, Viajero Perdido

Thank you both for your helpful reply. It now seems clear that Tiramisu is based on Elevate because the two themes show precisely the same trails (and don't show precisely the same trails). In addition, as John suspected, Tiramisu works correctly with OpenAndroMaps.

When Magellan wrote "Now able to work in Locus. Some layers have been added." I assumed the modified Tiramisu theme would work (correctly and completely) with LoMaps. In fact, it only works as well as Elevate does with LoMaps; it works best with OpenAndroMaps.

Am I correct to say that the theme's XML file can be modified to display all hiking trails in LoMaps? I guess the question is how much time am I willing to invest to understand how it works! :)
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: freischneider on November 29, 2017, 07:07:56
Quote from: Taras D on November 28, 2017, 21:46:55
john_percy, Viajero Perdido

Thank you both for your helpful reply. It now seems clear that Tiramisu is based on Elevate because the two themes show precisely the same trails (and don't show precisely the same trails). In addition, as John suspected, Tiramisu works correctly with OpenAndroMaps.

When Magellan wrote "Now able to work in Locus. Some layers have been added." I assumed the modified Tiramisu theme would work (correctly and completely) with LoMaps. In fact, it only works as well as Elevate does with LoMaps; it works best with OpenAndroMaps.

Am I correct to say that the theme's XML file can be modified to display all hiking trails in LoMaps? I guess the question is how much time am I willing to invest to understand how it works! :)

Bring das Thema doch mal im OpenAndroMaps Forum zur Sprache. Vielleicht ist es für die nur eine Kleinigkeit.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Magellan on November 29, 2017, 12:38:03
Yes, I also noticed some missing paths when I looked through the maps of Austria with this Tiramisu.
Error displaying mountain paths, and tracks corrected. And some others layers...
A moment of patience...
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Magellan on November 29, 2017, 15:32:51
Thank you all for testing.
Taras D, Viajero Perdido, check now how your trails are displayed
Fixed:
- display paths with the tag "sac_scale"
- the visibility of the names of the elements "mountain_pass, volcano, saddle, cave_entrance, river, stream | canal, water bodies; ele cave_entrance" ...
- "Place names" now hides / shows everything except for the names of settlements

and various trifles.

Report if you find another errors - together much can be fixed!

I take this opportunity to express my great gratitude to the great people - John Percy, Tobias, Jencek, LocusUser#1,  ManfredG, bm.ffb, and oth. , who create such wonderful themes. This is a huge work, I respect your work!
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On my smartphone, on which I ran the debug,  DPI=340
unpack with the replacement in the same directory - "....mapsVector\_themes"
The difference in the display: Left - LM, Right - OAM
(https://s2.postimg.org/mpzs0hzat/Screenshot_20171129-190811.png) (https://postimg.org/image/mpzs0hzat/)__ (https://s2.postimg.org/tgg99z4h1/Screenshot_20171129-190816.png) (https://postimg.org/image/tgg99z4h1/)
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Taras D on November 29, 2017, 17:07:28
@Magellan

I installed Tiramisu LE 3+2 and it now correctly displays all trails. Thank you!

Perhaps you can help me understand how Tiramisu, and Elevate, display ladders.

A month ago, I added several ladders, and two safety_ropes, to OpenStreetMap. To display the items, I used the latest version of OpenAndroMaps for the State of New York (https://www.openandromaps.org/en/downloads/usa_en) (2017-11-25) with Elevate LE V4.2.1 and Tiramisu 3 LE+2 themes.


Here is the ladder that is displayed by Elevate but not Tiramisu. It is a node with the tag "ladder=yes".
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4773080911

These ladders are not displayed by Elevate or Tiramisu. They are nodes with the tag "ladder=X" where X is the length of the ladder. The lengths varied from 2 to 5 meters. Example: "ladder=4"
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5191411959
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4234427426
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4234427476
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4203671346
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1690836990

According to OSM's Wiki, it is permitted to enter a numeric value, instead of "yes", for ladders (and safety_ropes).
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder


In Elevate and Tiramisu, I changed the rule for handling ladders to be more comprehensive. I replaced "ld_yes" with "*".

OLD: <rule e="any" k="ladder" v="ld_yes" zoom-min="15"> <symbol src="file:../ele_res/s_ladder.svg" symbol-width="16dp" /> </rule>
NEW: <rule e="any" k="ladder" v="*" zoom-min="15"> <symbol src="file:../ele_res/s_ladder.svg" symbol-width="16dp" /> </rule>

Unfortunately, the modification failed to display ladders (with numeric values) in both Tiramisu and Elevate. It also failed to make Tiramisu display the one ladder tagged with "ladder=yes". :(

Either my rule modification is incorrect or the New York OpenAndroMap simply does not contain all the ladders. Is it possible that when OSM data was extracted to create the New York map, it only selected ladders that were identified with "yes" and rejected all ladders with numeric values?

It would explain why "numeric ladders" cannot be displayed because they simply don't exist in the map.  However, it would not explain why Tiramisu fails to display the one ladder ("ladder=yes") that Elevate can show.

(https://i.imgur.com/B99mFdkl.png) (https://i.imgur.com/B99mFdk.png)
Full-size image. (https://i.imgur.com/B99mFdk.png)
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Magellan on November 29, 2017, 17:41:40
Quote...to display the one ladder ("ladder=yes") that Elevate can show.
To fix this, try inserting the following line after row №272:
<cat id="tms_safety"/>
Then in the "Hiking" layer it can appear.   

(https://s2.postimg.org/5e8m6vkol/2017-11-29_21-43-39-_TD.png) (https://postimg.org/image/5e8m6vkol/)

And, yes - replaced "ld_yes" with "*"
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Taras D on November 29, 2017, 20:22:03
Thanks! I followed your instructions and the Tiramisu theme now shows the safety ropes and one ladder ("ladder=yes").

The last problem to solve is that both Elevate and Tiramisu don't show ladders defined with numeric values ("ladder =4"). When the map is produced, I believe "numeric ladders" are not extracted from OSM.

This page shows the items extracted from OSM to produce OpenAndroMaps.
https://www.openandromaps.org/en/map-basics-2/tag-mapping

Here is how it extracts "safety_rope" and "ladder":
<!-- tags_alpine -->
<osm-tag key='safety_rope' value='sr_yes' equivalent-values='yes' zoom-appear='15' />
<osm-tag key='ladder' value='ld_yes' equivalent-values='yes' zoom-appear='15' />
<osm-tag key='rungs' value='rn_yes' equivalent-values='yes' zoom-appear='15' />

I will contact the OpenAndroMap team and ask if they can change the filter to include numeric values.

Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Taras D on November 29, 2017, 20:58:25
One more thing: "highway=steps". Elevate shows hiking trails with stairs but Tiramisu does not.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/535587828#map=18/44.12928/-73.86749&layers=C



Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Magellan on November 30, 2017, 15:25:34
@Taras_D:
Fixed:
- highway=steps
- icons of the ladder, safety rope, ... now included in the "Tourism"

inside zip only xml, unpack with replacement

(https://s2.postimg.org/s8ft48211/Screenshot_20171130-190635.png) (https://postimg.org/image/s8ft48211/) (https://s2.postimg.org/5jqm4nsd1/Screenshot_20171130-190951.png) (https://postimg.org/image/5jqm4nsd1/)

prefer to consider the path on the map off the fills, vegetation, contours of heights, and currently unneeded items
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Taras D on November 30, 2017, 19:28:51
I used the revised theme and now the map shows trails with steps. However, if I enable "Hiking networks", the steps become very difficult to see. You have to magnify the map to high zoom-value to see them.

(https://s8.postimg.org/g8clb28n5/Tiramisu_3_-_Hiking_networks_-_Steps.png) (https://postimg.org/image/g8clb28n5/)

It's also difficult to see steps using the Elevate theme (when "hiking routes" is enabled) but it's a little bit clearer.


Regarding OpenAndroMaps, ChristianK responded to my request and said the January map version will include all ladders with numeric values. More information here:
https://www.openandromaps.org/oam-forums/topic/please-allow-numeric-values-for-ladder-safety_rope-and-rungs#post-21356

Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: BERNHARD.FRIESS on February 11, 2018, 09:20:05
Quote from: Magellan on November 26, 2017, 10:50:31
Source: Tiramisù 3.0.2 for Oruxmaps and MapsForge compatible applications
http://tartamillo.wordpress.com (http://tartamillo.wordpress.com)
...
Now able to work in Locus. Some layers have been added....


Hi Guys,

I want to try the Tiramisù 3 Theme in Locus as well. However apparently I'm not yet able to use it. I downloaded the zip file provided in the first topic, extracted it to my computer and copied the content into a folder on my mobile phone

\Interner Speicher\Locus\mapsVector\_themes\Tiramisu

But when I start Locus Map Pro, latest version I cannot select the Tiramisu theme.

What did I wrong or where do I have to place which files to make the Tiramisu theme work on my phone with Locus?

Best regards

Bernhard
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Magellan on February 12, 2018, 07:43:15
Hi, BERNHARD.FRIESS

Try to go to
Settings -> Miscellaneous -> Default directories
... and see the exact path...
(https://s17.postimg.org/jdh7uxinv/Screenshot_20180212-105059rsz.png) (https://postimg.org/image/jdh7uxinv/)
- Inside this directory there should be a catalog of _themes
- Inside this directory of the _themes, after unpacking, the catalog of "Tiramisu_3_LE+" should appear

In my case, the correct path will be /storage/2F5D-12F7/Карты/Vector/_themes/Tiramisu_3_LE+

If the Locus was started - restart it

Be considerate, and good luck to you!

By the way, now new versions of the topic will appear in the first post, as it is accepted here.
Just today the update happened. Download Tiramisu again and unpack it with replacement.


Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: balloni55 on February 12, 2018, 14:17:30
@BERNHARD
QuoteI downloaded the zip file provided in the first topic, extracted it to my computer and copied the content into a folder on my mobile phone
if i unpack the provided file i get folder and subfolder Tiramisu_3_LE+
please copy the second one without "5" to the theme folder ;)

Wolfgang

(https://s13.postimg.org/5671t5i7n/unziped.png) (https://postimg.org/image/5671t5i7n/)
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: BERNHARD.FRIESS on February 13, 2018, 21:35:41
Hi Guys,

Many thanks for the proposed fixes. However it doesn't work :(.

Now I have an idea: is it possible that Tiramisu Themen only works with single-language maps but not with ML-maps?

Best regards

Bernhard
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Magellan on February 14, 2018, 15:29:28
Of course, this theme is only for V3 maps.
I thought it was obvious, sorry...
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: BERNHARD.FRIESS on February 15, 2018, 05:45:01
My fault, no worries!
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Tapio on March 16, 2018, 19:58:59
Beautiful theme! I agree, hiking trails should be bigger.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: tramp20 on May 01, 2019, 07:42:58
Quote from: Magellan on February 14, 2018, 15:29:28
Of course, this theme is only for V3 maps.

Please could you update your theme to V4 maps?
I really love it and used it always with the LoMaps.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Tobias on May 01, 2019, 20:19:56
Quote from: tramp20 on May 01, 2019, 07:42:58
Quote from: Magellan on February 14, 2018, 15:29:28
Of course, this theme is only for V3 maps.

Please could you update your theme to V4 maps?
I really love it and used it always with the LoMaps.
The original Tiramisù 3 should work with V4 maps, just put it in a seperate directory in the theme folder. You find it in the link in the first post.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: tramp20 on May 02, 2019, 05:07:19
Quote from: Tobias on May 01, 2019, 20:19:56

The original Tiramisù 3 should work with V4 maps, just put it in a seperate directory in the theme folder.

Thank you, this works now.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 03, 2019, 01:43:50
Where do I find the latest theme? I checked https://tartamillo.wordpress.com/2017/07/19/tiramisu-3-0-2-released/ but can't see anything to download. The ZIP files attached to posts for this topic are all dated 2017. Thanks.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: flyingman_ch on May 03, 2019, 10:44:11
I found version 3.0.2 at https://app.box.com/s/g06eujo3gwoxqil4bmmqyg4dgiupph5e (https://app.box.com/s/g06eujo3gwoxqil4bmmqyg4dgiupph5e)
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: SonnyS on January 31, 2020, 14:31:59
I downloaded and unzipped the file, however I cannot get the theme to show in my Locus themes library. It's in the correct folder with my other themes. I'm using v4 openandromaps

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Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: flyingman_ch on February 14, 2020, 18:19:03
It works for me. I have a subfolder 'Tiramisu_3' under 'mapsVector/_themes'.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition +
Post by: tommi on February 17, 2020, 09:57:00
I guess the problem is this version of Tiramisu is not working with V4 maps but with V3 maps.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: balloni55 on January 01, 2022, 14:22:37
@Magelan
First of all a happy new year

since locus can read zipped themes i have had problems with different versions of your zipped themes
please read
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7632.msg66384#msg66384
Thanks to @0709 Willy the modified theme work well
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: Magellan on January 03, 2022, 15:59:13
New version of zip in the first post.
Thanks
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: Saturo on January 09, 2022, 12:39:55
Is there any chance to get the theme also for V5 Maps?
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: balloni55 on January 09, 2022, 12:47:49
Quote from: Saturo on January 09, 2022, 12:39:55
Is there any chance to get the theme also for V5 Maps?
it work with V5 map
Copy the zip from first post to your themes folder
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: Saturo on January 09, 2022, 13:04:17
Quote from: balloni55 on January 09, 2022, 12:47:49
it work with V5 map
Copy the zip from first post to your themes folder

This is exactly what i have done, but the theme is not shown under extern themes.
Therefor i have asked.
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: balloni55 on January 09, 2022, 13:14:45
are you on LMP or LM4 ?
where are your themes stored and what path is set  in custom sub-directories for  > Vectormaps
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: balloni55 on January 09, 2022, 13:42:02
@Saturo
sorry my fault
for V5 use attached zip
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: Saturo on January 09, 2022, 14:01:39
Thank you! This version is shown in the theme switcher. But when i select it, it shows only a blank map.

I use LMP, the maps and theme files are stored on the sd card. The path is set correct in the settings

Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: balloni55 on January 09, 2022, 14:05:19
what´s the name of the map?
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: Saturo on January 09, 2022, 14:32:09
I use
https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/openstreetmap/openandromaps/mapsV5/germany/Germany-South.zip
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: balloni55 on January 09, 2022, 15:01:01
for me it work, map is displayed well

i think best way for test is:
install e.g. Ruegen map from
https://www.openandromaps.org/downloads/deutschland
direct with your smartphone

click on + in front of the map name next click on
"LOCUS Map&Pois" button
so the map will be installed on the right place on phone
Title: Re: [Theme] Tiramisù 3 Locus Edition + (for V3 maps)
Post by: Saturo on January 09, 2022, 15:27:15
Ah, okay. Seems i have to zoom out 2 or 3 steps first before the map is getting rendered.
When i switch to the theme without zooming out the map keeps blank.