Title: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: rt on May 08, 2016, 07:42:47
Post by: rt on May 08, 2016, 07:42:47
Hi, after 2 years of using Locus Pro on a Samsung Galaxy S5 I dropped the phone killing the screen. Had to replace it, chose Galaxy S7.
Exported Locus backup on the old phone, imported on new one.
My old phone had main Locus folder on internal flash, this is also where I kept the more frequently used maps; some extra maps were on external sdcard (internal flash was faster but smaller).
My new phone only has internal flash (big enough for now).
This is where the trouble begins. Locus is slower on the new phone. The UI and map redraws feel more sluggish, there are visible delays.
This comes completely unexpected, if anything I'd have hoped the newer phone would be faster:
- faster CPU,
- faster flash,
- twice the RAM, more caching opportunities,
- the only thing that I think could have a negative impact would be higher resolution, more screen estate to redraw.
And the phone certainly feels faster overall, just not in Locus where it is slower.
Just to make sure I haven't gone crazy I also checked against my wife's phone who still has an S5 and yeah, it's faster.
Can anything be done with this situation?
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Exported Locus backup on the old phone, imported on new one.
My old phone had main Locus folder on internal flash, this is also where I kept the more frequently used maps; some extra maps were on external sdcard (internal flash was faster but smaller).
My new phone only has internal flash (big enough for now).
This is where the trouble begins. Locus is slower on the new phone. The UI and map redraws feel more sluggish, there are visible delays.
This comes completely unexpected, if anything I'd have hoped the newer phone would be faster:
- faster CPU,
- faster flash,
- twice the RAM, more caching opportunities,
- the only thing that I think could have a negative impact would be higher resolution, more screen estate to redraw.
And the phone certainly feels faster overall, just not in Locus where it is slower.
Just to make sure I haven't gone crazy I also checked against my wife's phone who still has an S5 and yeah, it's faster.
Can anything be done with this situation?
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Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: jusc on May 08, 2016, 11:45:54
Post by: jusc on May 08, 2016, 11:45:54
I didn´t see this with my tests with S7 edge, It wasn´t slower, because of it´s very high display density you had at least to zoom in one level more to compare the view range.
With other words zoom level 16 wasn´t the same as on the older Note 2. You got nearly the double range on S7 compared to Note 2 with same display size of 5,5".
If you use it p. e. outdoors, you could take zoom level 16 with Note 2, but have to choice level 17 or 18 with high density phones.
You are right, Locus or better its usability doesn´t really benefit from highest performance phones.
With other words zoom level 16 wasn´t the same as on the older Note 2. You got nearly the double range on S7 compared to Note 2 with same display size of 5,5".
If you use it p. e. outdoors, you could take zoom level 16 with Note 2, but have to choice level 17 or 18 with high density phones.
You are right, Locus or better its usability doesn´t really benefit from highest performance phones.
Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: Michal on May 09, 2016, 11:32:14
Post by: Michal on May 09, 2016, 11:32:14
Hi,
it's strange as we do use Locus Pro on a S7 and without problems, without lagging. There are a few aspects associated with Locus that can influence the device performance but they are valid generally, not just for your particular make: http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:faq:locus_performance
it's strange as we do use Locus Pro on a S7 and without problems, without lagging. There are a few aspects associated with Locus that can influence the device performance but they are valid generally, not just for your particular make: http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:faq:locus_performance
Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: ilya.anderson on May 22, 2016, 12:01:31
Post by: ilya.anderson on May 22, 2016, 12:01:31
I have the same problem. Just upgraded to a galaxy S7 from an S5.
The S7 now lags terribly and the side panel hangs when opening and closing. Have re installed with no sucess.
Also running locus pro on galaxy 2S 8inch tab with no problems
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The S7 now lags terribly and the side panel hangs when opening and closing. Have re installed with no sucess.
Also running locus pro on galaxy 2S 8inch tab with no problems
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Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: rt on May 22, 2016, 15:44:54
Post by: rt on May 22, 2016, 15:44:54
Quote from: ilya.anderson on May 22, 2016, 12:01:31Yep, still irritatingly slow for me :(
I have the same problem. Just upgraded to a galaxy S7 from an S5.
The S7 now lags terribly and the side panel hangs when opening and closing. Have re installed with no sucess.
Also running locus pro on galaxy 2S 8inch tab with no problems
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What's worse, I tried disabling all animations in phone options, all UI is lightning fast, just Locus UI is sadly unaffected by this option.
@Menion, any chance to disable animations in Locus UI or - better - follow the system setting?
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Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: Menion on May 23, 2016, 07:43:54
Post by: Menion on May 23, 2016, 07:43:54
Hi, this is not mainly a problem of animation. It is a problem how Locus draw a maps. New devices SGS7 draw a lot more map tiles then older devices and this cause a problems. I have one ace in hands so we will see with next version.
Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: ilya.anderson on May 28, 2016, 01:56:40
Post by: ilya.anderson on May 28, 2016, 01:56:40
With the new update this morning im happy to report things are much better. Side by side with my s5 they are pretty much equal now.
Good work dev
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Good work dev
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Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: Menion on May 28, 2016, 06:03:16
Post by: Menion on May 28, 2016, 06:03:16
Good day ilya,
interesting ... how to say it ... by "we will see in next version", I though in version 3.18.0. I've worked on this task yesterday and I believe there will be significant change. But! In current version from Google Play, there were absolutely no serious change that should affect speed of maps! So I think, it will be more some change on your side - like lower number of points/tracks on a map, disabled overlay, disabled WMS, or something like this. Anyway if it's faster now, then it's fine :).
interesting ... how to say it ... by "we will see in next version", I though in version 3.18.0. I've worked on this task yesterday and I believe there will be significant change. But! In current version from Google Play, there were absolutely no serious change that should affect speed of maps! So I think, it will be more some change on your side - like lower number of points/tracks on a map, disabled overlay, disabled WMS, or something like this. Anyway if it's faster now, then it's fine :).
Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: rt on May 28, 2016, 06:34:01
Post by: rt on May 28, 2016, 06:34:01
Quote from: ilya.anderson on May 28, 2016, 01:56:40Hi, what version are you on? Mine is still 3.17.2 from May 22nd, the problem is still there.
With the new update this morning im happy to report things are much better. Side by side with my s5 they are pretty much equal now.
Good work dev
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Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: ilya.anderson on May 28, 2016, 10:25:44
Post by: ilya.anderson on May 28, 2016, 10:25:44
Sorry. My mistake. If i move the map on an area with high detail it is still slow.
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Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: Menion on June 03, 2016, 13:03:13
Post by: Menion on June 03, 2016, 13:03:13
Guys, if anyone of you use Locus Map Beta versions, please try latest and let me know. It should be a lot better now. I hope :).
Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: rt on June 05, 2016, 09:10:05
Post by: rt on June 05, 2016, 09:10:05
Quote from: menion on June 03, 2016, 13:03:13That's great news, much appreciated!
Guys, if anyone of you use Locus Map Beta versions, please try latest and let me know. It should be a lot better now. I hope :).
As my SGS7 is not rooted yet I lack reliable means of backup & restore so I'll rather wait for the release version (which I hope will follow soon
).r.
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Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: jusc on June 05, 2016, 12:18:24
Post by: jusc on June 05, 2016, 12:18:24
You don't need to root your phone. Just become a member of Locus beta testers.
Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: rt on June 05, 2016, 13:51:49
Post by: rt on June 05, 2016, 13:51:49
Quote from: jusc on June 05, 2016, 12:18:24Sorry, I was unclear. If I want to reliably backup/ restore (which I do), I prefer to rely on Titanium Backup rather than in-app or Google.
You don't need to root your phone. Just become a member of Locus beta testers.
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Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: jusc on June 05, 2016, 15:52:45
Post by: jusc on June 05, 2016, 15:52:45
I don´t understand...
Backup/Restore has nothing to do with Locus beta tests.
For beta testing you have only to install Locus Free (parallel to Locus Pro version). You can use both versions at the sam time if you want
The free version becomes from time to time a full version for users who are participating in beta member group.
(http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3879.0)
Backup/Restore has nothing to do with Locus beta tests.
For beta testing you have only to install Locus Free (parallel to Locus Pro version). You can use both versions at the sam time if you want
The free version becomes from time to time a full version for users who are participating in beta member group.
(http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3879.0)
Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: jusc on June 22, 2016, 11:36:25
Post by: jusc on June 22, 2016, 11:36:25
Did sombody test the latest version and can give us a short impression?
Title: Re: Slower on a newer phone?
Post by: rt on June 27, 2016, 22:50:58
Post by: rt on June 27, 2016, 22:50:58
I've just installed the latest update from Google Play and at first glance it does seem to be significantly faster! Thank you!